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So use the non-scary-looking gun.
See, that wasn’t so hard.
Well, thanks for telling us the innocent-looking gun is just as bad as the bad-ass looking one. Now we can ensure you gun-boiz aren’t able to own either.
and I bet you actually think criminals will obey gun control laws
you’re a special kind of stupid, aren’t you?
Most guns used in crimes were originally purchased through legal means. Restricting guns that can be purchased legitimately hinders the criminal’s ability to arm himself. Don’t we both want that?
Most guns used in crimes are also handguns too, so why is the country arguing about semi-automatic rifles?
I don’t recall a single mass killing in the last decade that used only a pistol. Mass shooters want lots of rounds, they know they’ll get hit when they stop to reload. They might have a pistol as backup, but most use an assault rifle with a big magazine. They want to keep shooting.
Drug dealers and punks use pistols, easy to conceal
and dispose of.
Tuscan, AZ… January, 2011. Gabby Giffords. Six people killed- all with a single Glock pistol. Ringing any bells?
“I don’t recall a single mass killing in the last decade that used only a pistol.”
So what? The percentage of deaths caused by firearms that are part of “mass killings” is so small that it can be removed by rounding. The knee-jerk reaction to one recent event while ignoring ongoing issues is just plain idiotic.
Hey guess what: the scarier-looking weapon can also fire multiple rounds with a single trigger-pull, and hold many more of those rounds in its magazine. It can kill many more people much more quickly. Way to leave out the math.
And what the fuck are cars even DOING in this idiotic “comparison”…? Does the wizard who cooked this shit up seriously think they’re trying to ban automatic weapons are based on how they look?
No they can’t. Both are semi-automatic. Full automatic’s are already illegal.
and easy enough to convert to full auto, but ignore that little fact…
No, they can’t. That’s like saying it is easy to convert a 5 speed stick shift to an automatic transmission. blog.robballen.com/Post/3239/gun-myths-the-easy-conversion-to-full-auto
And besides, both guns are semi auto. People can still but semi auto guns, they aren’t banned. So even if you were right, the legislation did nothing to prevent people from buying guns that can be so “easily” converted to full auto.
Yeah, it’s easy to convert a rifle to full-auto.
All you need is a CNC machine, several years of experience working with metals, be a gunsmith, and a criminal. That’s all you need.
There are 30-round magazines for the Mini-14 also. The one in the picture just happens to be holding the 5-round, flush-fit magazine, if any.
None of what you said is true whatsoever. You are describing a fully auto weapon, which have been banned in the US for years. Both of those guns are semi auto, meaning that they shoot one bullet per trigger pull. Both of those guns can be outfitted with higher capacity magazines. Would you like to see the difference between a Ruger 10/22 and the exact same gun with a tactical kit? modernsurvivalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ruger_banner.jpg
Those are literally the exact same gun. Even if both guns had the same magazine size, one is legal to buy now and one isn’t, which is dumb because they have the exact same killing power.
dictionary.reference.com/browse/literally?s=t
They are literally the exact same gun. Just like I am literally the same person whether I’m wearing an overcoat or a leather jacket. And way to try and point out a word usage that isn’t even wrong instead of actually trying to defend your point.
Are twin brothers literally the same person? Are you literally the same person you used to be, if your arms & legs have been replaced with prosthetic limbs?
There is enough obvious difference between those two guns –even if the differences are superficial– that makes calling them “literally” the same gun ridiculous on the face of it. It’s like saying two different people are literally the same because they can do the same things. They are two different guns. Period. If you wanted to make more sense, you could simply have said “they are for all intents & purposes the same gun”, instead of compounding your mistake with an inane defense.
Also, if you have to lazily resort to copy/pasting your own posts here, along with not being bothered to master the language and vocabulary in which you’re trying to make your argument, how seriously to you expect to be taken? When you can’t clearly articulate your own point, I don’t even need to defend my own.
Don’t like it? Shoot me. Literally.
Won’t let me reply to you on your post, so I’m replying here.
“Are twin brothers literally the same person? Are you literally the same person you used to be, if your arms & legs have been replaced with prosthetic limbs?”
No, twins are different people. Yes, I am the same person before and after I have prosthetic limbs. Same name, same social security number. Under the law, that is the same gun, it has the same serial number, it has just had some cosmetic changes. Since we are talking about gun legislation here I thought that would be a given presumption. They bought a gun, changed some things about it, but it is still the same gun. That is what I was trying to point out about why the legislation is dumb. The NY bill makes that gun illegal because of how it looks, not because of what it is capable of. But thank you for continuing to ignore the central argument and focus on a subjective linguistics issue. But for the sake of continuing, I’ll just say that you were right about the word usage and I was wrong. That way we can focus on the actual argument and not semantics. english102-tamuc-barnes.wikispaces.com/file/view/Argument_Pyramid.jpg/112461215/Argument_Pyramid.jpg
Also, if you really want people to take your argument seriously, then you need to know what you’re talking about, which you don’t. You didn’t know what a semi auto gun was, you didn’t know that full auto guns were already banned, and you didn’t even know what the details of the recent gun are despite the fact that you are defending this legislation.
But assault weapons can be fired from the hip and folding stocks make them easier to conceal. It’s not always about firepower. Even with the exact same round to a mass shooter an assault rifle has big benefits.
You are absolutely right sir. I was just pointing out the ignorance of the previous poster.
That’s pretty funny. I have a 10/22 and it looks almost exactly like the second photo! I have an ammo can filled with 30 round and 50 round magazines. And, I also have a book with detailed drawings to convert it to selective fire. Single shot, 3 shot burst, Full Auto. All I need is access to a water jet…
Both guns are completely legal to buy.
Cars kill more people than guns. That’s why.
Challenge accepted.
logic fail again gun nuts, silly gun nuts.
Neither car looks faster to me and if either one of those guns were pointed at me, I wouldn’t give a shit about how powerful or scary it looks even though I would think either one is just as powerful and scary.
hochunk already said my other points.
Well what he said was completely wrong. He was describing a fully auto weapon, which have been banned in the US for years. Both of those guns in the pic are semi auto, meaning that they shoot one bullet per trigger pull. Both of those guns can be outfitted with higher capacity magazines. Would you like to see the difference between a Ruger 10/22 and the exact same gun with a tactical kit? modernsurvivalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ruger_banner.jpg
Those are literally the exact same gun. Even if both guns had the same magazine size, one is legal to buy now and one isn’t, which is dumb because they have the exact same killing power.
copycopypastapasta
Ban both, problem solved. Then go make something funnier.
A determined killer can cause plenty of death without an assault riffle.
2009 – A single gunman, armed with a semi-auto pistol, killed 13 people and wounded 29 others. It is the worst shooting ever to take place on an American military base.
2001 – The attackers on 9/11 didn’t use guns and killed around 3,000 people.
1995 – The Oklahoma City bombing killed 168 people and didn’t involve a firearm.
1991 – The Luby’s massacre using just two 9-mm semiautomatic pistols George Hennard shot 50 people (killing 23).
1986 – Campo Elías Delgado killed 30 people, and wounded 15 more with just a knife and a revolver.
1957 – William Unek’s second killing spree, he used a stolen police rifle, 50 rounds of ammunition and an axe, he started killing people in the area of Malampaka. Within twelve hours Unek shot dead ten men, eight women and eight children, murdered five more men with the axe, stabbed another one, burned two women and a child and strangled a 15-year-old girl, thus killing a total of 36 people, before fleeing.
1954 – William Unek had his first murder spree where he killed 21 people with an axe, before escaping.
1949 – Howard Barton Unruh killed 13 people using a German Luger pistol.
1938 – Mutsuo Toi cut the electricity line to the village of Kaio on the evening of 20 May, which left the community in darkness. At around 1:30 am on 21 May, he killed his 76-year-old grandmother by decapitating her with an axe. Then he strapped two flashlights to his head and prowled through the village entering the homes of his neighbors. He killed 29 neighbors and seriously injured three others in about an hour and half using a Browning shotgun, a Japanese sword and an axe. At dawn he committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest.
1927 – Worst School Massacre in US history: Bath, Michigan School Massacre. Murder accomplished with explosives. 44 victims (equal to the Columbine and Virginia Tech massacres combined).
More mass/spree killings have been committed with weapons other than assault riffles.
If both guns are semi-automatic*, then the “gun legislation” is against both guns, regardless of appearance, which nullifies the whole point of this moronic pic.
*here’s a question: can either weapon be easily upgraded to fully automatic?
Many can, and if you can’t there’s someone down the street that can unlock your cell ph..er..I mean get the parts to make your weapon fully auto…or modify the existing parts.
No it isn’t easy. Anyone who tells you other wise watches to much TV. The AR 15 needs a different bolt carrier group for one. For two there is machineing work that has to be done to the lower receiver. Lastly you need different parts for the trigger group, and fire selector switch. All of which will land you in federal prison for 15 years.
There is no”guy” down the street who does conversions. Anyone who attempts to provide such a service needs needs to know what they are doing and have a milling machine. Oh and a very loose ass hole, because the ATF will bust them so fast they will be the new fresh meat in federal lock up.
Really the ignorance that is bouncing around about fire arms is staggering. I get it you don’t like guns. But guess what they are protected in the Constitution. Just like the free speech you are using now.
As for the picture above it is accurate. The items they banned last time in the AWB was pistol grips, the collapsible stock, 30 round mags, and the flash hider on the end. The rifle on the left is a AR-15 with those options. The rifle on the right is a Mini 14 without the options. They both fire the same round, and at the same speed. One just looks “scary” and one looks like a classic hunting rifle.
The retarded thing about the laws are it only affects the law abiding citizen. Not the criminal who doesn’t follow the law. you can argue all you want, but the FBI stats on crime don’t lie. Violent crime has been dropping in this country over the last 20 years. It is down 50% in the last 10 years alone. Ban on certain firearms have had no effect on crime rates. As for “assault rifles” they are used in less then 2% of violent crimes. Handguns are used in most of the rest, but knifes, and bats are in there as well. Out of the violent crimes less then 1% are committed with a legally owned fire arm. In short criminals don’t buy their guns they steal them. You want to help lower gun deaths more. Have government incentives for purchasing gun safes. Make it cheap. Right now a good gun safe cost 2000 dollars. That is why most people put the guns in closets where they get stolen. If a criminal can’t steal a gun, they have allot less to commit gun crimes with.
No it isn’t. There isn’t currently a bill being considered that bans semi auto weapons because that would ban ALL weapons except for pump action shotguns and revolvers. The bill everyone is talking about is the one New York just passed, which bans assault weapons. In the bill, assault weapons are defined as a gun having 2 or more military style features. These features are things like a pistol grip or a flash guard. So under this bill I can have a Ruger 10/22, but if it has a pistol grip and a stabilizer then that gun is illegal, even though neither of those things increase the power of the gun.
news.yahoo.com/ny-passes-1st-us-gun-control-bill-since-212027571.html
This article talks about the bill and has a link to it.
Also, turning a semi auto weapon to full auto is not easy. And turning a semi to full will make it wildly inaccurate, making it much less useful and lethal. blog.robballen.com/Post/3239/gun-myths-the-easy-conversion-to-full-auto
Besides, all 9mm pistols are semi auto, you really think turning it to full auto will make it more deadly when its accuracy falls off by 50%?
Better.
Whoever owns that first car is MUCH more likely to drive like a douchebag!
It’s getting metaphorical up in this bitch.
I WILL RIP YOUR BUTTHOLES