Atheism – Getting Up Early Sucks

Atheism - Getting Up Early Sucks


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    joeyisapest
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    God made me an atheist.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    I would believe only in a god who knows how to dance.

    Recondomoe
    Member

    Or demand I get butt banged by my priest! LOL No wonder most catholic men have a lisp.

    DasMaus
    Member

    Trust scientists, they’ve NEVER been wrong.

    And as for apologizing for being human part – that would be a liberal thing; sorry for the actions of our ancestors, sorry for misusing our natural resources because we didn’t know any better in the past, sorry that a big juicy steak tastes better than tofu salad, sorry I feel I need to keep a gun so I can defend my family, sorry the people of California voted against gay marriage and your feelings got hurt. . .

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @Recondomoe: Dude, WTF is wrong with you.

    Also:

    WHY CAN’T GOD FIX ME

    THE OTHER KIDS BEAT ME UP BECAUSE I DON’T BELIEVE IN THE JESUS

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    No man is happy without a delusion of some kind. Delusions are as necessary to our happiness as realities.

    Recondomoe
    Member

    @LukeV1-5, WTF with that church condoning what they do to their youth?

    deuce
    Member

    This poster should probably say “Agnosticism”… Atheists say there’s no God, Agnostics say “who the hell knows?”

    Ben1605
    Member

    @deuce: Agreed.

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    @deuce & Ben1605: I have a friend who’s an agnostic, and we argue about this all the time. He says we can never know, even though he doesn’t believe in any gods. I say that we can never know if a small invisible fairy is floating behind our heads our entire lives just out of reach, but it’s pretty reasonable to assume not. Atheists don’t know where all this came from (or if there ever was a beginning if you believe in cyclical time present in infinity), but at least we’re confident there are no monsters under our bed. @DasMaus:… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    @Recondomoe: I don’t think you understand the word condone.

    The Church doesn’t exactly say “Yeah, dudes, you should totally be molesting people. I heard it’s in the bible somewhere”.

    one
    Member

    @DasMaus:
    Isn’t science itself a form of control just like religion masked by intentional deception? It would be true to say that 100% of the people on this planet follow either religion or science would it not? What makes science so different from a religion such as Christianity? Everybody follows one of the other based on their own beliefs.

    Recondomoe
    Member

    @LukeV1-5-I don’t think you understand that you sound very familiar with the process. That’s why catholic girls are so easy….

    Namelis1
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    @one
    Science is not a set of completely arbitrary beliefs.

    It is a set of instructions for logically understanding the world around you. In of it self, Science says nothing about the world at all. It’s just a method of understanding the world, based on proof, evidence, and all that other gibberish that ! Belief lacks. Because belief requires you to ! believe even when faced with contradiction.

    Science celebrates contradiction.

    DasMaus
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    @tiki god: mini-rant. I think you feel towards Christians the same way I feel towards anit-gunners, tree-huggers (I care about the envrionment but I’m for its responsible management of its resources not its worship), animal rights wackos (treat them humanely but not like theyre people), etc.

    Civil union vs marriage, when politics enters the picture things just get screwed up.

    I’ve never viewed science as anything more than a “best guess”

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: Hmmm, I must have missed the part of the bible that says the earth is flat…

    one
    Member

    @Namelis1:
    Who’s to say that the “set of instructions” are logical and right? We believe it to be so because we were taught it but many people in the world are taught that God is real. Not saying he is or isn’t but I’m trying to point out that to me, science itself seems like its own religion.

    Science celebrates contradiction? Science IS contradiction.

    garbledxmission
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    @LukeV1-5: By “condone” he’s probably referring to the wall of silence, stonewalling, legal defense funds, hush money, public denouncing yet private complicity and tacit approval due to lack of punishment that has been the Catholic Church’s attitude towards the thousands of molestation cases that have arisen in the last few decades. But hey, you keep defending that church of yours. Oh, and Paul, nowhere in the Bible does it mention a Flat Earth. The closest it comes is in the Book of Isaiah where it is described using the Hebrew word for circle. (chuwg) The belief that ancient man thought… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Paul_Is_Drunk: One of my favourite dead men. @Namelis1 I don’t think one was comparing science and religion in that sense. What he meant, is that when a bunch of scientists come up to you, and say, “look we’re building this huge machine, to see if we can produce some particles, which nobody is even sure exist” – you most likely believe them. I doubt that every time stuff like that happens, you go into your backyard and try to build your own hadron collider to see if it’s true. The same way you trust those scientists ‘blindly’ – most religious… Read more »

    Dreth
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    I don’t believe in Gods but I don’t give a fuck about how the universe came to be either.

    garbledxmission
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    Arguing the merits of science vs religion is like arguing the merits of punk rock vs Nevada.

    Namelis1
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: True, I can’t build a particle accelerator and verify the results, because neither do I have the expertise to do so, nor the resources. I can however assume that we will be getting a steady trickle of advanced technology based on that research.

    Unlike the priests, where the only thing that trickles down is their into little kids. Sure I know that’s just a few cases, but I really enjoy that stereotype (ZING).

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    The LHC and a few other experiments are outside the abilities for a regular person to replicate, but there are a lot of experiments that can be done. Regarding the picture, astronomy is one of the fields where amateurs can and do contribute significant research. Especially with digital cameras and computers, anyone can put together a telescope and measure things like parallax and red shift. I’ve even seen amateur set-ups for radio telescopes (the trick is that you have to far away from local transmissions). Even a homemade fusion reactor or STM are perfectly doing able. Personally, I got a… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @Namelis1: Ah yes, I wasn’t saying there could be no benefits to what scientists do, just because you don’t understand it.

    As for the priests you talk about, no, what they teach can never grow the way science does.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @reboot: Haha, whoa, what’s your problem man.
    Not everybody can be a scientist, are you gonna hold that against me?
    I wasn’t complaining, I just stated an observation. It’s not about, being able or not, but it’s ridiculous to expect everybody to verify for themselves, every project that scientists are currently working on. Don’t you agree?

    If your doctor tells you after an examination that you’ve got cancer, are you gonna study medicine after that?

    MonkeyHitman
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    internet is too serious

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    Also, you seem to be ridiculously angry at me. I don’t like what Dawkins does, and that’s my opinion.
    I know there’s not much to be gained from religion, and it’s not comparable to what science has done for humanity.
    Scientists are the closest to being some kind of gods, out of all delusions and non delusions people have. So. Stop jumping on everything I say, or whatever else it is that you’re doing.
    You’re a determinist like me, I consider you a friend just because of that. Don’t you know I have no choice in not liking Dawkins?

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: That wasn’t particularly directed at you, but at the idea that science is just a “set of beliefs” or that people blindly trust science the same way that they trust religion.
    But, yeah, everyone can be a scientist! That’s the really great thing about it. You can’t replicate every experiment ever done, but its entirely feasible to replicate the most fundamental ones.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    I wasn’t intentionally jumping on everything you say. It really was directed more towards DasMaus and one.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    Never mind then.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    @reboot: And everyone can be an ordained minister (free online!).

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    @RSIxidor: I do detect the sarcasm, but being a minister doesn’t prove religion. If anyone could walk on water or rise from the dead or part the Red Sea, then you might be able to compare science with religion.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    Yeah, wasn’t trying to compare or prove the underlying infrastructure. Just comparing the “you can be a scientist, too!” part.

    dieAntagonista
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    dieAntagonista

    @reboot:
    “Clairvius Narcisse. He was a Haitian guy who was declared dead by two doctors and buried in 1962. They found him wandering around the village 18 years later. It turned out the local voodoo priests had been using naturally occurring chemicals to basically zombify people and putting them to work on the sugar plantations.”

    You can strike ‘rise from the dead’ from the list.

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    Goddamnit didn’t we have one of these threads yesterday?

    Brevity Truta
    Member

    Sometimes I think atheism is the new Satanism, still obsessed with rebelling against the other side of the exact same coin.

    Guilt is a huge and lamentable part of Christianity. It’s not part of all religions, though.

    Alec Dalek
    Member

    @Brevity Truta: It’s not a coin, idiot, there are more than two sides! You need two sides so you can say Satanism = Atheism, rather than thinking.

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    @Namelis1: Science celebrates contradiction? I dunno some guys get really pissed off when a hypothesis is shot down. Have you seen the debate on global warming? In discover magazine a few years back a guy came up with a pure mathematical explanation that that global warming was more or less a product of nature and was not out of the ordinary. Well he was more or less kicked out of the “Scientific Community” and began regularly receiving death threats from the Opposing side. Long story short it is absolutely childish to think that the study of science is objective. And… Read more »

    Brevity Truta
    Member

    @AlecDalek: Agnosticism I would call the edge of the coin. The parallel I drew does make sense, look at the macro again. “I’d rather trust in …” Isn’t that putting *faith* in something? And look at the fervour with which atheists flock together and engage in proclaiming their dis-belief in God. Seems to me the religious impulse isn’t so easily lost in humans. I wasn’t saying that Satanism = Atheism, I was saying that they’re both rebellions against the same thing, which provokes an amusing observation – true disavowal of something produces disengagement and finding a new way, not a… Read more »

    Paul_Is_Drunk
    Member

    *munches on popcorn*

    Did I miss anything? Let’s see… taking weakest part of any argument and attacking that instead of debate. Okay. Some reasonable discourse. Huh. People commenting just to say that won’t comment. Good. That seems like a normal one of these threads. Now to comment in the next one and see where that one takes us.

    Oh, overall I give this one a 6/10. Good, but not great.

    Jas3n_bla
    Member

    I think there was a picture on this site that tiki put up that said something like this. Creationism: In the beginning higher being who knows everything created us. Big Bang Theory: In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded. As far as overdressing, only Presbyterians do that I think. And apologizing for being human, I’m pretty sure you’re automatically forgiven, you just need to admit you’re wrong to someone to keep you accountable. What I don’t understand is why can’t everybody just get along? Isn’t calling christians ignorant or telling atheists they’re going to hell really just another form… Read more »

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    Stop by in half an hour paul. I’m going to start quoting bible verses and admonishing people.

    nyoki
    Member

    Scientific truth differs from religious/revelation truth precisely because scientific truth is verifiable by anyone should they want to. Repeatable and verifiable testing is the guard of truth for science.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    WORSHIP ZEUS!

    Ando
    Member

    @ dieAntagonista
    That story is not been proven. Even if it was it would just be proof of any form of deity, just of a neurotoxin.

    Microwaveb
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    Microwaveb

    @Jas3n_bla

    “Creationism: In the beginning higher being who knows everything created us.

    Big Bang Theory: In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”

    actually that should read:

    Creationism Myth: In the beginning there was nothing, then there was a higher being who knew everything, despite there being nothing, which created us.

    Big Bang Theory: In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

    Ben1605
    Member

    @Microwaveb: Actually, it should be

    Big Bang Theory: In the beginning there was everything, which exploded.

    hellb0y666
    Member

    dog|god

    Shopper
    Member
    Shopper

    I personally think it is shopped, look at the angles and contrast, and it is also very pixelated. Def Shopped.

    confined
    Member
    confined

    yes you could build (hadron collider) and or do any scientific experiment you wanted and prove or disprove science. But a priest can’t show me god, nor can he/she make me believe or not to believe.

    blackdog33
    Member
    blackdog33

    AND, while I am over dressed and groggy, give my hard earned money to a lazy, bible thumping, self-righteous chickenshit too lazy to work for a living.

    Davis Goodman
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    Davis Goodman

    I have this deep and dark urge to appologise about being a human every day. Christianity is the perfect religeon because they help me feel more and more bad about my horrid and dirty human-ness on a daily basis. Islam cannot even come close to reminding me how awful everything about me is (though I am a man so I can’t be categorically sure about this). Every thought and desire of mine is filthy and base. No matter how much I appologise for all of this, I never feel like I am absolved of this until fellow christians help me… Read more »