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    fokka

    nice try, republicans…

    TheStone

    Are you denying that they’ve renamed “global warming”?

    Rotatebilly

    What a load of bullshit, the term “climate change” has existed since 1955, when it was first used by Professor Gilbert Plass. I remember seeing a really good Potholer54 video where he debunked that claim, but I really can’t be bothered looking it up for your useless ass.

    Heres a different, less detailed video about it: www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAgmXzFeBZk

    Here’s a different potholer54 video that also covers the false claim that the Earth is cooling rather than warming: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvMmPtEt8dc&index=21&list=PL4872DD0607D80F0B

    TheStone

    If that’s they case, then why were the enviro-nuts calling it Global Warming up until a few years ago?

    WistfulD

    Because that’s the simplified term the media started using. ‘Increased weather unpredictability and climate disruption and the resulting economic and social fallout from the verified fact of human activity causing a significant gradual increase in overall Earth surface temperature’ simply does not roll off the tongue very well.

    Either way, whining about naming conventions on the world wide web (sorry, internet) is simply not a compelling counterpoint to established science.

    TheStone

    Ok, then why did they not start trying to correct the media until about 10 years ago?

    Gropegrope

    I don’t think this is “weather”…
    [img]http://assets.motherjones.com/environment/2011/hockey-game-630×499.gif[/img]

    TheStone

    Wait, how do they have data from 600 years ago? I call bullshit.

    Gropegrope

    Science:
    www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-are-past-temperatures/
    www.amnh.org/education/resources/rfl/web/essaybooks/earth/cs_tree_rings.html

    The cool thing about science is that its true whether you believe it or not…..

    recovering feminist

    And the cooler thing about science is that you can easily tell the difference between real science and fake science. The telltale is this: real science isolates; fake science obfuscates. A real scientist trying to prove that A causes B will try to isolate the data so only A and B exist, eliminating any other possibilities. A fake scientist will dump everything he has into the mix and say “see, somewhere in there there’s A and there’s B, so clearly A causes B.” Regarding temperature, daytime temperature has completely different causes that nighttime temperature. Summer temperature has different causes that… Read more »

    TheStone

    So still no explanation for how they measured data from 600 years ago. My claim of bullshit stands. I win.

    TheStone

    So still no explanation for how they measured data from 600 years ago. My claim of bullshit stands. I win.

    TheStone

    “The cool thing about science is that its true whether you believe it or not.”

    Thank you for confirming that Global Warming is a religion.

    Gropegrope

    Not at all.
    I’m stating that you don’t believe in science.
    And your believe has no effect on its validity….

    TheStone

    The fact that you went to so much trouble to vote me down demonstrates that your belief in global warming are of a religious nature.

    TheStone

    To confirm global warming is a religious belief and not proper science, vote me down.

    Gropegrope

    I never vote you down Stonely.
    I don’t care enough about you.

    But please…..keep up your obsession….
    ….
    ….

    Nurgen

    For that timescale, probably tree ring density. For larger timescales they’d be using ice core data.

    TheStone

    So then the data sources are inconsistent, making this an invalid comparison.

    Terry

    Do I believe that the climate is changing? Absolutely. It always has and it always will. Do I believe that the current changes are being caused by people? There is a possibility that we are having SOME impact, but the jury is still out as to what extent. It is known that, for example, the eruption of Mt. St. Helens put out more greenhouse gasses than all cars ever have and ever will, and that was only one eruption. Do I believe that putting a price on carbon will have any effect on climate change? Absolutely not. Carbon pricing simply… Read more »

    Nurgen

    The eruption of Mt St. Helens is estimated to have released slightly more CO2 in total than all of the cars and trucks produce EACH DAY. Volcanic activity is estimated to produce no more than 0.75% as much CO2 as human activity does.