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    Rotatebilly

    Yeah sure, blame the victims.
    I can’t believe this freaking arguement is still around. Every time a Republican gets an obvious racial attack pointed out it somehow becomes the Liberal’s fault.

    dallasalice

    Obvious? What’s an obvious racial attack? Past the obvious I mean like using the “N-word,” or other blatant racial attack.

    Examples, please.

    outlanderssc

    Don’t “obvious racial attack” and “blatant racial attack” mean essentially the same thing?

    dallasalice

    Hmmm, I suppose they can. What I meant was, and you probably knew this, that some things are accepted by ALL people as being racist. Using historically derogatory words for specific races being one of them. However, it seems today if you dare to challenge a person’s policies or actions and they happen to be a minority – and not even a racial minority – it’s racist to those on the left. Take welfare reform for example. To call for it is labeled racist by the left despite more white people being on welfare than black. Don’t like Obamacare? Racist!… Read more »

    timtim

    The thing that really gives credence to the dog whistle thing is how vehemently conservatives focus on things that affect equality for women, gays, and lower income people.

    Look, I was born in the south, and raised in a predominately republican family.

    Not every Republican is racist. It’s just that their platform appeals to people who are interested in a white, male, straight, Christian dominated society.

    timtim

    www.alternet.org/story/153895/the_10_most_racist_moments_of_the_gop_primary_%28so_far%29?page=0%2C0

    Want more? How about the Tea Party signs that showed Obama as a witch doctor with a bone in his nose?

    Geez Alice, everyone is a little racist. You can even find examples with the democrats. But outright denying it like you are makes you look a little dishonest.

    On the other hand, I am sure you would NEVER deny racism against whites, or racism from a non-republican.

    timtim

    Here’s another example. Fox News refers to Michelle Obama as “Obama’s Baby Mama”.

    Then there’s the whole southern strategy thing.

    Korinthian

    That might just be a case of the rhymes.

    no

    I think its safe to say that if they didn’t have dark skin, that phrase would never be used. Did they use it with bush?

    timtim

    No, they didn’t use it with Bush. Are you not familiar with the term?

    hamm172

    Sounds made up. I’m a news junkie and have never heard that term.

    outlanderssc

    You can silence the opposition by calling someone a racist?

    What if they show in a reasonable, logical fashion, that they’re not being racist?

    Or maybe they say “yes, that was racist, I apologize for that”

    Then the discussion could continue in an adult fashion

    100110110110010

    Racist.

    outlanderssc

    If you took that as racist, you have my apologies

    dallasalice

    Actually, you really can’t silence the opposition by throwing out racist any longer. It doesn’t have the heft it once had because the vast majority of the country knows that, while racism still exists, America is one of the least racists nations on Earth. Add in the fact that certain people predictably cry-wolf about it over and over and over and you have fewer and fewer people buying it.

    I call that progress.

    timtim

    I think the problem we are facing is two fold.

    Some people do like to play the race card too much.

    On the other hand, certain people say every claim of racism is crying wolf.

    Korinthian

    When you throw out statements like “USA is the least/most X country there is” I always wonder what you’re comparing it to.

    Somehow I doubt USA fares as well compared to western countries, but I’m too lazy to look it up.

    Silverwolf

    I’m pretty sure Magnus posted this just to strike preemptively at anyone who says his “world map” post is racist.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    That’s because you’re a fucking idiot.

    I’ve never posted a single image and usernames can be changed in your profile admin.

    hint * ponies

    That image looks more like some cause head got sick of having the racism that peppers most of America’s new found (lack of) understand of socialism and it’s specific categories and decided to try and come up with some way of neutering the whole thing. Why not…you know just not be so fucking racist? I’m openly racist myself. I don’t care. I think because I’ve grown up surrounded by so many cultures I know better than to restrict myself while their racial bias is accepted and used to leverage themselves professionally. What I see are a whole lot of ignorant… Read more »

    jpmct

    Could we settle this?

    Lets just make a list of all the Rebublicans who were Ku Klux Klan members. As far as I know, they are running around ZERO, but, hey, what do I know.

    Then see if it is longer than the known list of Democrat Klan members.

    The party with the longer list obviously deserves the racist prize, heh?

    crewmanguy

    David Duke – Republican and Grand Dragon of the KKK.
    www.nytimes.com/1989/02/20/us/winner-in-louisiana-vote-takes-on-gop-chairman.html

    Korinthian

    This is exactly the tactic Navi uses, only he shouts “liberal.”

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    1) “Navi”? ffs you’re a loser lol

    2) learn to comma

    3) you just called all libtards racists even though you are desperate to be one of them

    And you wonder how you earned the name Retard?

    Caio

    dang ol librels git offended when i said niggers eat watermellon. i ain’t said theres nuthin wrong with it i eat watermellons ,too god dam librel obamacare commietards

    skanderbeg

    being lib has obvious attractions. One doesn’t need to reason or achieve. One need merely be in accord with the Narrative and learn all of the appropriate slam words (there aren’t that many). Gets pretty charming when they talk about Alan West, Nikky Haley et al. Now that’s racism!
    Bush is STUPID we are told! But the (dem)congressman concerned that the preponderance of US servicemen on one side of Guam might tip it over – well …see.. he gets it .. caring thoughtful compassionate