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    dieAntagonista
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    Aw thank you handy Venn diagram, you figured it all out for me. Now I don’t even have to think for myself, PHEW.

    Belbo
    Member

    Bullshit: socialist. Obama is a conservative democrat. Of course, the flat-earth, libertarians on the other side might make him seem like a left-winger.

    Where is single-payer health care? Where are tax increases on those with more than 250k?

    Look, I know the demagogues said it, and it feels good to believe it, but sometimes ideas are not facts.

    #makecasemdsgreatagain
    Member

    Don’t forget he’s in command of the most powerful gang in the world.
    Yes, the military is now a gang becauses there’s a black president.

    Bicoid
    Member
    Bicoid

    These Venn adjectives seem like they were picked by throwing darts at a wall of words. How bizarre.

    In related news, Toxoplasma infections make you schizophrenic, and 1/3 of the US (at least) has it.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    What’s with “czars” being a buzzword all of the sudden? Everyone knows that the whole “czar” thing started with Nixon, right? And that their actual job title is not “czar”?

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    Actually I believe it started with Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Also not too many people know that Bush employed more “czars” than Obama. IIRC Obama just nixed some old positions and created new ones and of course the opposition ran wild with it. Still the fact of the matter is that these Czars can get into power with or without congressional approval and the only person they have to legally answer to is the president. Obama or not it is a dangerous system. I mean think of it this way. You are a scientist correct Reboot? Do you really like knowing… Read more »

    jaundicedi
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    jaundicedi

    Let’s see…appointed by a President or chosen by Congress…either way they’re being picked by people who owe favors to the mega-corporations who gave them millions in campaign contributions. The people won’t have much voice either way.

    jadechimera
    Member

    So the President, who is elected to direct executive-branch policy, can’t delegate that responsibility to other people? Nobody would be complaining if these “czars” were only referred to by their official titles, like the “drug czar”- aka Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy- or the “green jobs czar”- aka Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise, and Innovation. Besides, some of these people are in positions which require confirmation by the Senate… the “technology czar”- aka Associate Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy- a man named Aneesh Chopra, has been confirmed by the senate: www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/one_item_and_teasers/nom_confc.htm… Read more »

    TheLotusEater725
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    “nobody would be complaining if these “czars” were only referred to by their official titles, like the “drug czar”- aka Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy- or the “green jobs czar”- aka Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise, and Innovation.” Actually jade i agree with you there, if they had another name peoples reactions wouldn’t be as voracious.Still, Czars, moguls, kaisers, directors, administrators, whatever the hell you want to call them i do not believe the president alone should have the power to appoint ANYONE regardless of qualifications into a position of power without congressional or general… Read more »

    jadechimera
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    Now you’re assuming that I’m assuming… Your problem is with “czars.” The large majority of commentary about (or, for that matter, mention of) “czars” nowadays comes from the media and Republicans. I’m not saying you are either a member of the media or a Republican, just running with their line of discourse. I would agree that a position like Director of the ONDCP should require approval, although simply stating that the current system only involves the Senate fails to persuade me that that is insufficient, much less that approval by the House or by plebiscite would really be better options… Read more »

    The Matrix: Rebooted
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    Yeah, it might of started with FDR, Nixon’s Energy Czar was the earliest one I new about.
    “Czar” is such a blanket term. The only positions that have actual authority are the ones created by congress; everyone else is just advisers. And since there is no “Department of Science”, the President should have a science adviser of some sort on staff and choosing your own staff is definitely the President’s right.
    As far as one person making science policy, that’s ridiculous. The biggest influence government has on science is through funding. And funding always has to be approved by congress.

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    I did not know that funding needed to be approved by congress.

    “And since there is no “Department of Science”, the President should have a science adviser of some sort on staff and choosing your own staff is definitely the President’s right.”

    Well yeah in that respect i agree. It’s just there is a whole office devoted to things such as our nations science policy and theoretically the president could bypass senatorial sanction for the appointment of a “czar”. I mean obviously the president shouldn’t make uninformed decisions about funding sciences education or other areas of importance.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    The actual title of the so-called “science czar” is Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy and he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren
    So I don’t really see what you’re disagreeing with at this point.

    TheLotusEater725
    Member

    Well the only thing i really think i am disagreeing with is the idea that the president holds the ability to create offices of power or “czars” regardless of senate approval. President Bush, Johnson, Obama and roosevelt have appointed “Czars” based on nothing other than executive order/presidential appointment. “The actual title of the so-called “science czar” is Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy and he was unanimously confirmed by the Senate. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Holdren So I don’t really see what you’re disagreeing with at this point.” I already know that. I already said my example of Science Czar was… Read more »

    grammarrobot
    Member

    hey yeah his head does kinda look like an acorn

    gx5000
    Member

    This message Tea Party approved.

    gx5000
    Member

    Speaking of ignorance….
    The Movie “Creation” (About Charles Darwin)…
    No US distribution and there may not be any…
    USA ! USA ! usa !

    Saborlas
    Member

    This diagram designed by someone who doesn’t know what socialism IS.

    deuce
    Member

    I think it’s more likely that it was designed by a retarded 8 year old who watches Fox News all day.

    Catherine Longfellow
    Member

    I recommend that any American flippantly labeling everything as “communist” and “socialist” spend a year in N. Korea or China living with and talking with those citizens. And if it’s not in your budget to travel, chat it up with any old Russian immigrant who knows what a real czar is like.

    If you still think a little healthcare option (the same crap you’ve been paying for for decades, btw) is going to strip you of your freedoms, then you are a paranoid psychopath my friend. The truthers will welcome you to their inner sanctum now.

    tiki god
    Admin

    re: czar

    if I remember correctly, it was the communists that kicked out the czars, right? why are thy 912 people wanting to be like communists?

    Brushaway
    Member

    as a socialist from the europes i can say i would never vote for a man like obama because he is so extremely not socialist.

    BurritoCzar
    Member
    BurritoCzar

    Impeach the Nigrah President!

    Only our Lord and Savior, Presiden-Elect Mitt Romney will save us from the moron’s tyranny!!!!!!! FACT!!

    Puulaahi
    Member
    jadechimera
    Member
    gx5000
    Member

    EVERYONE SHOULD SEE THIS VIDD…
    The Ignorance and stupidity just leaves me empty…
    There is no solution to this level of dumb.

    If only the US could have a Civil war so that the gene pool could clear….These morons will vote and speak against their best interest and drag us down with them in the name of the Lord.

    Make you want to get off the Continent all toghether.

    mikoyangurevich15
    Member

    Someday.Someday there may be a viable third American political party.Someday.Someday there may be a rational,sensible candidate in that party.Someday.I hope to fuck that someday is soon.I`m sick of this polarizing bullshit.

    KommissarKvC
    Member

    I say actually let real politicians get a chance to be elected, no more of this having to pick one bullshit democratic party over another

    let Nationalists and Communists have a chance at the white house

    Knuckles
    Member

    ha ha! Oh my god this is fucking stupid. I wonder if the creator was purposefully being a dipshit or if instead they were actually this fucking blind, full-on retarded.

    nyoki
    Member
    Phyreblade
    Member

    Based on past experience current evidence, and the vid Nyokki posted, I’m going with option 2.

    Graceless
    Member

    TL;DR

    100110110110010
    Member
    100110110110010

    For eight fucking years, we have a provably fascistic, arrogant, incompetent, ignorant, theocratic-tending, free-spending presidency… for some reason its only now that these teabaggers, oh and FoxNews, “wake up”. For 8 years, protesting the president was unpatriotic and harmful to the nation in a time of war. Now, it’s fine. In fact, its your duty *crying Beck tears now*.

    You’ve got to assume this diagram is a troll/Poe and move on; that’s the only possible explanation.

    Belbo
    Member

    They are against Obama’s deficit. Bush’s deficit is fine. And they don’t want the government interfering in our personal lives. Unless you are a homosexual who wants to get married, or a woman who wants an abortion.

    ray53208
    Member
    ray53208

    bitter, sad, conservative, republicans…

    why do republicans hate freedom and democracy?
    can someone answer me this?
    seriously.

    is it because they are owned wholly or in part by corporations? is it because they are brainwashed by religious kooks? is it because they are bigots? is it because they are repressed and living a lie? why? why? why?



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