Legal Vs Illegal shotguns

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    wizardonthejob

    Nothing from the peanut gallery?

    Korinthian

    This again?

    WaltherKid

    I’ve got the one on top (500 with rifle stock). iz a mighty fine shotty

    maxcw

    This doesn’t sound like something government would do.

    derek

    sarcasm i hope

    skanderbeg

    The pistol grip and variable stock enable greater user control … therefore greater safety. These are people who think that being ‘black’ makes a weapon more dangerous as well.
    Wonderful insight! I can hardly wait to hear their views on economics.

    WaltherKid

    they are probably the same people who think a ‘person’ being black also makes them more dangerous.

    #makecasemdsgreatagain

    I blame obame…because he’s black

    DrEvil

    We’ve already seen their views on economics. Borrow trillions, spend trillions, blame Bush. Its a three step process.

    outlanderssc

    Borrow trillions (to pay for the wars Bush lied to get us into), spend trillions (to keep the economy from tanking like it was when Bush left), blame Bush.

    Oh, and cut the deficit and the unemployment rate at the same time. A lot more than three steps.

    Oh, and did I mention saving the auto industry?

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    Bush Lied? Al Qaeda wasn’t responsible more 9-11 and most of the attacks prior to that? (excluding the ones by Iran, of course? OR are you talking about the WMDs that we know Iraq had? We know they had them, because they used them. Even Hitler refused to use them. Every country in the world, who HAS an intelligence agency said they had then. the French. The English. The Israelis, The Germans, the Polish. Even the Russians. The question is not did he have them, of course he did. So did Iran and Syria. (Syria gave up development after we… Read more »

    Mike D

    Wow. I’m amazed that anyone could still say that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction before the W invaded. He had them in 1990, they were destroyed after the first gulf war. International supervision worked. There were none when Bush invaded. The intelligence was cooked, Hans Blix was right and even though he was lambasted in our media. Syria abandoned its nuclear program after Isreal blew up its reactor and if anything Bush insisting on invading under false pretenses has served to encourage nations, like Iran, to get the bomb if they can. After all, not having WMDs and even… Read more »

    Eainsdad

    I was born in Missouri. Show me how Obama (Captain Zero) has cut unemployment and the deficit….
    Even the Democrats are admitting that employment is higher than it was during the Bush years and that Captain Zero caused the national debt to increase by more than the entire last twenty presidents combined.

    faithless

    The bottom one has a ‘pistol grip’.

    Well then, they’re different, turkey.

    Luminary

    Well, they certainly *look* different, but the one with the scary pistol grip won’t kill you any deader.

    Grendel

    Ok.
    Outlaw them both then.

    Next.

    Luminary

    Okay. You turn yours in first, and then we’ll see how you try to get mine. 🙂

    Grendel

    I don’t need a gun.
    I don’t live in fear.

    Karatesaurus Rex

    Sometimes it’s not about living in fear. Last year ground squirrels undermined my well at home and the cistern tipped and fractured. That cost me $3000 dollars. I have two choices, poison them and run the risk of killing all sorts of animals near there with either the poison or possibly their poisoned corpses, or shoot them. I shoot them. I don’t need, own, or use an “assault” weapon for it, but they’re pushing to outlaw some things under the ban that have no need to be outlawed.

    Grendel

    I have a $15 squirrel trap.
    No one can accidently shoot anyone with it.

    Karatesaurus Rex

    I’ve got a $5 gunlock for my shotgun and common sense, so my shotgun doesn’t accidentally shoot anyone either.

    Squirrel traps will catch whatever happens to go after them. I’ve got no problems with skunks, bobcats, or my neighbor’s dogs, so I make sure I can see what I’m getting.

    In all honesty, I don’t even use the shotgun anymore, I used a high powered pellet rifle now. Safer in the dry summers up here.

    Luke Magnifico

    See I think what people are saying is that $5 isn’t really enough to be spending on a safety precaution for a lethal weapon.

    Luminary

    I don’t need a helmet / seat-belt / air bag / parachute / health insurance.
    I don’t live in fear.

    Grendel

    Interesting choice of comparisons luminary.
    Except that home that own guns are 3 times more likely to experience an accidental shoot, homicide or suicide than guns that don’t own guns.
    So if safety is your concern, dump your guns.
    You’re much more likely to suffer a tragedy because s family member misuses your gun, then you are ever going to get the chance to use it to defend yourself against an intruder.

    Goldfinger

    I think I’d delegate that to the police.

    ethan

    Can I still get one with a Kung-Fu grip, though?

    slimnoche

    You are missing the all the extras…1. No-slip grip 2. Place to hold extra rounds or flask 3. No goofy fake wood.

    Thorsholm

    does one of them hold more shells or what is the actual difference?

    WaltherKid

    the size and number of pockets you have determine the number of shells you may carry. as far as the guns, i believe it’s a 6 round tube.

    Thorsholm

    I meant the amount of shells when loaded. But never mind, I looked again. Didn’t notice the text at the bottom.

    The King of Nothing

    Well, the only difference between a M9 Beretta and an M9 Beretta with a suppressor is the suppressor. Maybe we should make suppressors legal because they don’t make the gun more deadly, but do make it more scary looking, which is apparently the only reason they are trying to ban certain attachments to guns.

    Eainsdad

    Yes. Exactly. Glad you get it. Suppressors don’t enable some kind of magical field around a gun that makes it a BFG or a heat seeking missile launcher. It is the same as the muffler on a car. Even uses the same technology. Suppressors merely make the gun a bit less loud. Not quiet. Not soundless like they showed you on tv. About one half to two thirds as loud (by decibel) as an unsuppressed weapon. If you have ever fired a suppressed weapon you will understand why people who actually know something about suppressors are bewildered by the silliness… Read more »

    Mike D

    Or these pictures are just wrong. I just looked up the list of weapons that Fienstien proposed banning and the “Mossburg 500” is not on the list. The proposal bans “certain handguns and shotguns that have removable ammunition-feeding devices.” So it is about how many rounds you can pump out in a short amount of time. So it isn’t about scary pistol grips and it will still allow to buy all the squirrel hunting rifles or shotguns you want. (Although I think blasting away at squirrels with a shot gun sounds like it might create it’s own form of property… Read more »

    Karatesaurus Rex

    Only creates property damage if you’re an idiot and don’t check your shot sight. If there’s something behind it you don’t want to risk damaging, you don’t take the shot.

    Mike D

    Maybe we could outlaw idiots from having guns? That’s the ticket. Instead of background checks you have to take the Graduate Record Exam.

    SumoSnipe

    The wording of the bill lists cosmetic features that elevate a firearm to”assault weapon” status regardless of action.(bolt, pump, lever, semi-auto)Pistol grip and adjustable stock are two of the features listed, and it only take one feature to make it banned under the proposed AWB. Most of what she is trying to do on the fed level is already in place in California. Just one of the reasons I left that state.

    Mike D

    That may be your take on the law, which raises the question: why isn’t there a non insane gun advocate organization that would point out the kind of language necessary to get reasonable legislation on assault weapons. Instead we get the NRA saying if you ban X type of weapons we will have Hitler running the country. Or as we see here if you ban one weapon, you ban them all and we will all have to live in Idaho. Personally I will stick with the GRE as a requirement for gun ownership.

    Eainsdad

    Because “assault” is used as a new adjective when applied to anything but “-rifle” that was created wholly by anti-gun people who have no real knowledge of what they are trying to ban and is used explicitly to scare the ignorant. Examples: Assault Rifle – Real term that is used to define a select fire weapon of intermediate caliber that uses a detachable magazine. Select fire means the weapon has the option of firing in burst mode or semi-automatically (one trigger pull = one bullet) or fully automatically (fires bullet after bullet until trigger is released or magazine is empty)… Read more »

    Mike D

    I just read the bill, and you are not correct in your interpretation. It states that the shotgun must be semi automatic to be banned. Bolt, pump action etc. would not be banned. So the pictures are cute but not correct.

    tiki god

    do you actually know what semi-automatic means?

    Lareon

    if the ban affects a slight varient why do you guys even care if it gets banned? just buy the other one

    tiki god

    pistol grips are easier & more fun to shoot.

    Lareon

    if the ban affects a slight variant why do you guys even care if it gets banned? just buy the other one

    Lareon

    variant*

    Eainsdad

    The problem is that these people don’t want ANYONE except the “chosen few” to have ANY firearms. They will push and push and call it reasoned discourse and a reasonable conversation but they only want the military (and only the military that think the “right way”) and the police (again the ones that think the “right way”) and their personal protection details to have guns. They don’t want actual control of guns for public safety. They will be positively SURROUNDED by guns, just as they are now. How many armed guards surrounded the idiots at the New York newspaper who… Read more »