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    songofsickness

    I bet you they some interesting opinions on people of colour and any of the alphabet people.

    Gropegrope

    That was three quarters of a century ago.
    Things have changed.

    songofsickness

    So they’re not members of AntiFa, probably don’t know what AntiFa is, and are most likely dead so can’t in fact speak for themselves… is what you’re saying.

    Sindig0

    You can’t be a member of Antifa. Antifa, as an organisation, doesn’t exist – despite the right’s protestations to the contrary. It simply stands for “anti-fascist”, which is exactly what that image (Normandy landings?) is depicting. It’s a political stance.

    It’s not like the Proud boys (or simply ‘Fa’, if you prefer) – there’s no dues to pay or uniform or dumbass little initiation rituals.

    songofsickness

    So you’re saying they just all happen to often meet at an appointed time and place just completely at random, and not in an organised manner at the behest of some sort of instruction issued by a commander, or leadership of an kind.

    Boy… what are the odds?

    Sindig0

    No, not completely at random, no. That would be ludicrous.

    People who are anti-fascist tend to turn up when they know there will be fascists. And have done for years. I went to anti-Nazi counter protests 20+ years ago, just me and a buddy or two and we weren’t in communication with anybody – we just turned up where we knew there would be fascists. And guess what? We always found like-minded people.

    This isn’t a difficult concept…

    tiki god

    what is an alphabet person? google?

    Bolthorn

    You can be a little (or a lot) racist and hate LGBTQ people and also be against fascism. It would go something like this, “I may not think much of those people, but at least they’re not fucking fascists!”

    The picture is only claiming these people are against fascism. You’re trying to move the goalposts.

    songofsickness

    And you are doing something between wildly projecting and cherry-picking. The US officially banned homosexuals from serving in 1916, deeming them “sexual psychotics”. This evolved into ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’, and that wasn’t repealed until 2010!

    Bolthorn

    I’m doing neither of those things.
    Why are you always so incapable of debating in good faith? It’s fucking obnoxious.

    songofsickness

    “I want it to be true, therefore it is true”. Got it. Very Trumpian of you.

    Sindig0

    You’re one to talk about ‘cherry picking’ when your timeline goes “1916 something, something 2010”. Lol.

    songofsickness

    Perhaps you’d like to tell us in what period between 1916 and 2010 when the military went totally gay? Please. Tell. Us.

    Sindig0

    I don’t understand what your point is. No-one is saying that. Try and stick to one point, however stupid it may be, rather than jumping around between straw men.

    songofsickness

    So ‘There was no radical change in the US military’s policy regarding ‘No queers allowed!’ between 1916 and 2010′ is what you’re saying. Got it, thanks.

    It is truly amazing how many people here will resort to “I don’t like how you’re arguing” when asked to present more than their feelings in supporting their argument. Maybe the comments section just isn’t for you.

    Sindig0

    It’s not just people here, I’m sure. Do you even know what a straw man is? In this reply you even put quote marks around an argument you imagined I made! This is laughably fucking disingenuous. And no-one even but you even mentioned feelings. You are not worth my time – I’m done.

    Oh and here’s something for you to read or at least, get someone to read for you. The history of US LGBT military service is much, much more complicated than you make out.

    www.thebalancecareers.com/policy-concerning-homosexuals-us-military-3347134#:~:text=Throughout%20its%20history%2C%20the%20US,ever%20since%20Revolutionary%20War%20times.

    Last edited 3 years ago by Sindig0
    songofsickness

    Did you even read this before posting? You obviously didn’t so here’s a quick summary:

    • Obvious contradiction in the first paragraph
    • Doesn’t mention the Articles of War of 1916 and its 1920 amendment making sodomy a crime
    • Policies only relaxed when the war machine needed cannon fodder in Korea and Vietnam
    • ‘No queers allowed!’ official policy in writing again in 1982
    • Don’t ask, don’t tell’ repealed in 2010
    • We’re doing our best, u guise!

    If you read and understood all that before posting the article, you’re an idiot. If you didn’t read it before posting it, you’re a fuckhead and an idiot. So which is it?

    songofsickness

    In a nutshell:

    Gropegrope

    Wow.
    Righties really can’t do satire….

    songofsickness

    You always say that when you’re triggered.

    Gropegrope

    No.
    I said that because the video you linked to is moronic.

    tiki god

    I found it to be hilarious, but then again I’m able to understand that the people that won ww2 weren’t all saints and had some fucked up ideas about what equality really was, but I ALSO understand that we shouldn’t judge the moral character of people in the past on the morals of today.

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