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Gropegrope
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Now it’s just getting silly…

MalcoveMagnesia
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tiki god
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All presidents have somewhat questionable pardons, but those are nearly universally as the president is walking out of the white house, not right before an election, and usually not to this scale of corruption.

Old Tofu
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Old Tofu

so… are you really this blind? or just that much of a troll?

tiki god
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he’s a “concerned” person that “just wants to start a conversation”

MalcoveMagnesia
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Sorry, I’m not really trying to troll, but I simply can’t go along with the “Orange Man bad” herd groupthink here. I’ll take all yer downvotes as a badge of honor thankyouverymuch.

Andrew McCabe lied to the FBI about leaking. Should he have gotten off scott free while Roger Stone got railroaded?

Gropegrope
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Are you serioulsy suggesting “orange man good” though…?
This pardon was ridiculous.
You couldn’t possibly think it was the right thing to do…?

MalcoveMagnesia
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I never said commuting Blagojevich’s sentence was the right thing to do. My comment up there was only pointing out Presidents have made plenty of bad calls when it comes to clemency: Bill Clinton pardoned Mark Rich (who was a super rich tax fugitive hiding out in Switzerland), commuted congressman Mel Reynolds (who was in prison for child sex abuse charges), and commuted a bunch of FALN (Puerto Rico terrorist) bombmakers, except for the one Obama pardoned later (that I posted in the link up there). It sounds like Blago getting released early may have been because he had been… Read more »

Gropegrope
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And yet you can’t possibly bring yourself to say it was the wrong thing to do…

Pathetic.

MalcoveMagnesia
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I’d bet money you wouldn’t have any complaints about Blagojevich getting out of jail early if the president wasn’t Donald Trump.

Old Tofu
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Old Tofu

I know I would

tiki god
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that guy was as corrupt and shifty as they come, the two of them deserved each other.

Gropegrope
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Still can’t say it.
Still pathetic.

Gropegrope
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Let me put it another way.
It isn’t “group think” is what he did is actually bad.
It’s morality.

tiki god
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“not trying to troll” but then immediately launches directly into one of a trolls best known tactics of ‘whataboutism’. We’re not talking about mccabe and his situation, we’re talking about Rod Blagojevich and his pardon from DJT.

MalcoveMagnesia
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I was actually cheering over the Las Vegas debate rumble happening at the same time and wasn’t paying close attention to which thread I was on when I brought up Stone vs. McCabe instead of people getting pardoned, and by the time I realized my apparent whataboutism, it had passed the 10 minute window for editing comments. Whatever. Don’t google Crystal Munoz or Alice Marie Johnson. Orange man (still) bad.

mcavity
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mcavity

So there are “questionable” pardons.. and then there is this. There is no question this was a bad.