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tiki god

the more I learn about her situation, the less sympathy I have for her.

Gropegrope

What do you mean…?

tiki god

from her own statements, she went to a party, got black out drunk, went home with a guy and fell down while walking home with him. those choices led her to be on the ground making out with him where he decided it was a good idea to start fingering her, right there in public, which was a shitty choice on his part.

now she’s profiting off the decisions that were made that night, which is weird af to me.

Gropegrope

Sorry buddy, that’s bullshit. Your starting to sound like all the right wing trolls excusing Kavanaugh now….

Brevity Truta

Turn it around and ask if she’d known what would happen would she have done any of it, Tiki. Nope, she wouldn’t. If women navigated the world and treated men as though every man is like Brock Turner, what kind of world would it be? They say drinking brings out our unfiltered selves. Hers was trusting, wanting company, foolish, and naive. His? Entitled, predatory, objectifying of women. He left her passed out and exposed on the street, I mean, really? So yeah, I see her as being brave and raising awareness that the culture needs to shift a lot*. We… Read more »

tiki god

who left who? in the brock turner / Chnael Miller thing, they were making out behind the dumpster when the exchange students found them, no one was alone, for better or worse.

Brevity Truta

Reading her statement again, he ran when people came across what was happening and took issue with it. He left her unconscious [in her statement that’s the word she uses and witnesses / medical evidence surely corroborated that] and exposed. I call that leaving her, but yeah, he didn’t do what he did and saunter off. Quite right. I suppose he wasn’t quite done when interrupted. I don’t want to attack you here Tiki, especially as Gropegrope (have to have a dark laugh at your username in this particular context) and you are already a bit heated. Let’s us agree… Read more »

tiki god

which part is bullshit to you?

Gropegrope

She was unconscious. That’s rape. Period.
As for “profitting”…who the fuck cares…?
I’m sure there are literally millions of sexual assault survivors who want to know they aren’t the only one suffering.

tiki god

who’s saying she was unconscious? also, he was never charged with rape, I’m not sure where that meme came from, but it was sexual assault, not rape. Saying the wrong thing just sends the wrong message.

Gropegrope

Felony sexual assault then…?
Depends on the jurisdiction what the legal definition is…in California they parse the difference between rape and sexual assault.
Seems like splitting hairs to me, most people I know would call it rape.
And the guys that interviened found her unconscious while Brock was….sexually assaulting her.

tiki god

He was nearly unconscious at the time too, which again, isn’t anything to excuse his behavior.

And splitting hairs is in my professional job description, so it’s an automatic response.

Brevity Truta

I get how you’d think it’s profiting. Shame is huge for people who’ve been sexually assaulted. Maybe see it as she’s overcoming shame rather than whoring her story out. If she’s making money from it, that’s fair, for her time, no? Gotta respect that.

Soong

youtu.be/ZakGtYooyPY
youtu.be/Pqsg40wcCeU
You know how the right-wingers believe crazy shit? What you don’t realize is that the same type of retarded stories and positions get sucked up by the Left as well. Examine evidence and form a unique opinion instead of absorbing the opinion of an uninformed talking head.