Imagine if telephone switchboard operators demanded jobs

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    tomrdcinc

    Rather stupid………..not sure I have ever heard of anyone making such an argument for keeping a job and what does a switchboard have to do with coal? This is why liberals should not be taken serious.

    tiki god

    you’re inability to make intuitive leaps is astounding. There’s a popular quote incorrectly attributed to Henry Ford that went along the lines of ‘if i had asked what people wanted, they would have asked for faster horses’ (hbr.org/2011/08/henry-ford-never-said-the-fast)

    Can you figure out why I’m giving you that quote?

    Bolthorn

    Actually pretty pertinent to the discussion at hand. A large group of people voted for Trump because they feel like he’s going to bring back manufacturing jobs that have been “lost overseas” when in actuality a lot of those jobs were lost to automation. Why have a human weld a car frame when you can have a robot do it faster, better, with fewer to no mistakes and significantly less down time? No capitalist would. As solar and wind technologies advance, increase in efficiency, and become cheaper every power company will want to switch to those in order to lower… Read more »

    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    Some of what you say is true. Outside of a Dyson Sphere solar power is not ever going to be cheaper than coal, or even oil. It requires rare earth elements, expensive metals, and toxic heavy metals to produce, which does not even consider disposal costs. All the same applies to wind energy, plus they like to catch fire and spew those toxic chemicals for miles, and are a major hazard to aircraft, or anything within a couple of miles when the ice flies off them. You can burn, or you can break atoms, those are your only legitimate options.… Read more »

    tiki god

    I really want what you’re smoking, there’s no possible way that’s true. Some of these new plants are 100% automated and people just check in on them from time to time.

    Nurgen

    “Outside of a Dyson Sphere solar power is not ever going to be cheaper than coal, or even oil”
    Installing solar panels on your home or business is an investment that pays itself off really quickly.. solar is already cheaper than coal!

    fatherdougal

    This is annoying and counterproductive. Telling people to STFU and stop whining because they lost their jobs is not an argument, it’s assholery. How about suggesting that people in the coal industry might want to consider supporting a stronger social safety net, a unversal basic income, the right to education and retraining, etc. Good leftie arguments, and a good occassion to bring them up? But meme pics telling people they’re idiots? Fuck off with that shit.

    jeffapotimus

    put all that in a gif.

    also, nobody called anyone an idiot.

    Gropegrope

    Subtext.

    jeffapotimus

    what about context? it’s a picture on the internet. you’re looking for a nuanced argument? if you’re talking about the comments, then scroll up. actually a fairly civil dicussion. especially for MCS.

    skndrbg

    What are wind turbines made of? Agenda 21 large building frames? Rails? Rolling stock? Asking for a friend.
    [Global steel production is dependent on coal. 70% of the steel produced today uses coal. Metallurgical coal – or coking coal – is a vital ingredient in the steel making process.]

    Gropegrope

    Ah Skandy….

    Some industrial processes will always use fossil fuels (or their byproducts).
    Some chemistry just doesn’t work without organic compounds.
    No-one is arguing against that…just to continue to look for alternatives.

    The key to continuing a healthy environment for our economies (and us) to survive is to decrease our carbon output.
    That means converting whatever processes we can to less carbon releasing processes.
    Including power generation.

    No-one is suggesting we stop refining steel…..except you….

    skndrbg

    and where exactly did I suggest that?