Putin on Obama

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    Gropegrope

    America is not socialist.
    Obama is not proposing America convert to socialism.

    This post is invalid.

    WistfulD

    Putin would know the difference between Obama and socialism.

    Saborlas

    So the most corrupt major leader in the world has opinions about other leaders. Big whoop.

    Rotatebilly

    Yes, we all know that anything that doesn’t completely conform 100% to your viewpoint is because of a liberal conspiracy of bias, we’ve seen you post that blog before.

    Old Tofu

    even if it was , germany,switzerland,ireland,new zeland,norway,finland,canada,and more. how many of these are “failures”? the one that failed was the U.S.S.R. , lol

    Goldfinger

    Capitalist countries with a societal concensus that society / the government should pay for your health care, your education and feed you through unemployment as well as your retirement. So, basically, capitalist countries with everything that would make the USA ‘socialist’.

    Gropegrope

    We get it Fink.
    You’re one of those 84%.
    Otherwise you’d know better than post the nonsense you’re posting…

    Goldfinger

    So?
    Obama is blamed for turning the US socialist because he wants, for example, the whole society to fund the health care of those who can’t afford it on their own.
    Am I saying that’s what makes a country socialist? No.
    Should american conservatives seriously unbunch their knickers? Yes.
    Should people stop using completely hollow tags like ‘socialism’ and ‘capitalism’ because that is outdated cold war vocabulary and using them makes you look like a Reagan caricature? Yes, please.

    Goldfinger

    Also: Germany’s economy is neither completely free market nor completely government managed. So where does that fit in your neat little graph?

    jonblaze81

    Goldfinger, America in general is a very generous country. Those of us who tend to vote and think conservative (I’m a registered libertarian btw)don’t have a problem helping out those who are down on their luck, or seriously ill. The problem is that there are far too many able bodied people (vast overwhelming majority black) who can work, but refuse to, and are given $30,000 a year in benefits. Those same people are obsessed with the criminal culture, and refuse to conform to basic elements of normal society like don’t commit crimes, don’t have children that you can’t or wont… Read more »

    Goldfinger

    How do you tell the ones who can’t from the ones who won’t?

    Goldfinger

    Nothing to object so far. (Deciding what’s a legitimate medical reason is something else completely).
    Let’s assume there are more burger flipping aspirants than burger flipping positions open? Having not enough jobs to keep everybody employed is a real problem in Europa [b]and [/b] the US, afaik.

    jonblaze81

    To answer your question about not having enough jobs, here in lies another problem directly caused by government. The tax rate on individuals and corporations are way too high in the US at around 31-30%. If the government would spend less (like that would ever happen), and lower the tax rate, small business and big business owners alike would have more free capital to invest in R&D, and the manufacturing of new products. This would directly create new job opportunities. It would also be a boon to the education system in places like local community colleges as more people would… Read more »

    Goldfinger

    I get your concept. But that would need unlimited potential for growth. But an economy can only grow to a certain amount before it reaches a limit. Same goes for production – you can only have so many cars, phones, computers, tables, forks, whatever. And: “higher qualification” jobs only grow at a certain speed and to a certain amount while “lower qualification” jobs get less because employers have a natural interest in saving money by rationalisation / streamlining / economisation. To keep to the economy I know: Germany has made things easier and easier for big business over the last… Read more »

    Gropegrope

    No.
    A continuum.
    Neither black nor white….but a million shades of grey.

    Only zealots and simpletons think in black and white.

    fatherdougal

    Nothing screams “END OF THE AMERICAN EMPIRE” louder than morons who think that a centrist, pro-Wall Street, pro-business, neoliberal president is an ebil socialist. That, and posting fake assed quotes online. Y’all are so utterly, irrevocably fucked.