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    WistfulD
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    Why do people think that this is a cogent argument? Have there been any mass school stranglings lately?

    TheStone
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    What difference does that make? Humans have indeed strangled other humans.

    rdeckard
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    TheStone
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    Exactly!

    Mark Antony
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    Mark Antony

    Guns are the cheapest, easiest, quickest most efficient, most convenient way for a single person to kill many other persons. It is the weapon given to each and every soldier of every army in the world when they are deployed to warzones and ordered to kill the enemy. Guns are so easy to use that they allow the physically weakest individuals to kill several times their number. People who are incapable of physically overcoming other able human beings, people who are too weak or slow to run after other human beings to inflict harm, can easily kill several times their… Read more »

    downvotethis
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    Shithead criminals most often favor victimizing the physically weakest individuals. Guns are the cheapest, easiest, quickest most efficient, most convenient way for those same people to prevent themselves from becoming victims of violent crime. There are instances reported daily (not reported widely enough, sadly) of people using guns to deter violent crime. The CDC acknowledges that the number of defensive uses of guns far outnumbers the instances of uses by criminals committing crimes with guns. Yet there remains that contingent of society that will continue to imply that every gun owner is a criminal lying in wait, even though a… Read more »

    drevil007
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    drevil007

    You just explained why people need guns to protect themselves. Without guns the weak are unable to defend themselves from the strong. Why would you want make people unable to defend themselves from physically more capable agressors?

    Mark Antony
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    Mark Antony

    There is a basic flaw to the argument that no restriction on gun availability or ownership is an absolute requirement in order for the weak and law-abiding to protect themselves: the weak or law-abiding wouldn’t need guns to save their lives if guns were no so available to every criminal and crazy person in the first place. The mass availability of guns to every individual does not protect the weak and innocent. It makes it easier for the criminal and insane to harm and kill others… to turn everyday people into victims. The vast majority of criminals and killers are… Read more »

    downvotethis
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    “The criminals and killers that are caught often leave countless victims in their wake; in the case of mass-shootings, the murderers are notorious for inflicting massive casualties before killing themselves. Survival is not an option: killing as many people as possible as quickly as possible is the sole objective.” Don’t forget that a majority of these nightmare scenarios predictably begin in gun-free zones. They know they have better chances of a high kill count when a slim chance exists that a gun will be pointed right back at them. Insanity and stupidity don’t necessarily go hand in hand. Law enforcement… Read more »

    rdeckard
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    drevil007
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    drevil007

    DailyKos? Really? Really?

    Nurgen
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    Nurgen

    The actual study that it’s based on is here:

    www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable.pdf