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    outlanderssc

    I bet the inventors of “rocky road” ice cream, “lobster bisque” and “appletinis” are sure glad nobody can copy THEIR ideas – you might be able to buy that stuff ANYWHERE instead of only from authorized outlets.

    Thanks for keeping the thieving communists in their place.

    Bob

    Things like rocky road and moose tracks are actually licenced to various ice cream manufaturers to use the formula.

    While the people who created the appletini could have been profit mongering whores and licenced out the formula/process they instead let it be in the public domain.

    Also recipes usually can only be protected if they qualify as a trade secret (like with coke or kfc). Otherwise they get little legal protection. A printed recipe can get copyright protection, but cannot legally stop people from using the recipe. If the process/recipe is unique enough it may qualify for a patent.

    outlanderssc

    I’m not imagining “watermelon/crab popsicles” would involve a trade secret.

    tiki god

    I think you’re full of shit when you say that the rocky road formula is copywritten.

    maybe the phrase, but the recipe? fuck that

    guest

    I think copying a DVD is more closely comparable to buying a DVD and lending it to your friends. Or maybe inviting them over so all of you can watch the movie in your big-screen TV (without having to pay for their own DVDs). Only you have a metric fuckton of friends instead of a few (imaginary) ones. Having said that, there’s a difference between the guy who uploads (and seeds) a DVDrip on TPB and the guy who downloads it, burns it into a DVD and sells it on the street at a “discount” price. The later is an… Read more »

    Rotatebilly

    Well, buying DVDs actually contributes to global warming, there’s no waste being created when you download a file, whereas buying a CD creates waste that takes about 200 or so years to break down. Plus it’s more badass.

    Bob

    Actually you have the added energy use of the servers, routers, computers, etc that are probably not using renewable energy, and thus contributing to global warming.

    Mark Antony

    Theft might be theft, but I’ll feel sorrier for the enterprising kid with the genius idea than I will for the billion+ dollar corporation crying crocodile tears while trying to raise its profit margin from 65% (legal purchases) to 100% by hounding illegal downloaders with the help of legal departments that would make Lucifer envious. Especially when they market a deliberately overpriced product because they have a lock on the market and know most people will pay through the nose for it.

    Korinthian

    I think it was Neil Gaiman that asked an audience if they bought or borrowed their favorite book prior to reading it for the first time. Most of them had borrowed it. That’s a good argument for how piracy can actually help your sales.

    Goldfinger

    So they borrowed it, read it, gave it back, maybe bought it after.
    That’s not piracy, that’s borrowing. Now if they had borrowed the book and copied it instead of buying it, that’s a slightly different case, isn’t it?

    Korinthian

    The difference is that you can’t play a video game without copying it. Sure, not everyone that pirates something buys the book, but on the other hand: every pirate wouldn’t have bought the book had it not been free to them in the first place.

    You can’t get rid of piracy and DRM hurts the actual consumer. I don’t pretend I have the final solution to this problem.

    notspamming

    “And probably contributes to global warming…”
    They forgot pedophilia.

    Stolid

    It’s not stealing, it’s copyright infringement, but it did make for entertaining reading.

    Scimmy

    So what if those billions of people you gave the popsicle to weren’t ever going to buy your popsicle in the first place because either they couldn’t afford it, or just plain don’t like it, but would gladly take it if it were free? So maybe I would really only be out of maybe 100 or so real sales?

    Caio

    I have moral reservations about downloading music but when it comes to movies, fuck ’em. The MPAA, in their “University Toolkit”, violated the copyrights of literally thousands of copyright holders (by breaking the licences this FREE but COPYRIGHTED software was released under), then ignored repeated legal DMCA takedown requests, until some of the copyright holders had their service provider take down the pirated software. I’ve actually contributed small pieces of code to Debian, which was inherited by Ubuntu, which was inherited by Xubuntu and pirated by the MPAA. That is code that I hold the copyright to, which I released… Read more »

    Caio

    And, by the by, I mean thousands of people. With Debian and Ubuntu combined you might actually be looking at hundreds of thousands of copyright holders who had their software unapologetically pirated by the MPAA.

    That’s how little they believe in the rights of copyright holders: that they are willing to illegally violate the copyrights of hundreds of thousands of people for a relatively insignificant side-project, and then ignore legal takedown requests. They should lock every MPAA member up and throw away the key.

    ~

    if you released the code for free in the first place what possible problem could you have with anybody using it

    Caio

    Because closed-source code of any type is basically installing malware on your property. Look here:

    genius.cat-v.org/ken-thompson/texts/trusting-trust/

    And lookie here, the experts confirmed University Toolkit is a major security risk:

    blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2007/11/mpaa_university_toolkit_opens_1.html

    The point fucking is: it’s my copyrighted work. I released it under a specific licence by choice. Because it’s my copyright, I can do whatever the fuck I want with it, including giving it a copyleft licence. The MPAA, the brave and beautiful defenders of copyright, illegally pirated hundreds of thousands of people’s code and their ethical arguments cannot be taken seriously.

    Jac

    Make sure you tell your kids never to share their toys. Let their godless commie friends parents buy their own damn toys. And get off my lawn.

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