where socialism works

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    Rotatebilly

    This reminds me that I know even less about Romney/Paul/Gingritch, what’s your point?

    dallasalice

    Funny how that despicable word so easily rolls off the tongue of a liberal . . .

    yao

    Does that make Magnus liberal?

    HoChunk

    Probably because they understand context.

    Attention butthurt homosexuals: please proceed this way and begin your whining and crying. Someone has made a statement that places the supremacy of Obama and the common tree dwelling negro into question.

    You should all remember your conditioning but if not we have some liberal pamphlets courtesy of CNN available for you.

    In the name of equality and fairness it is important to silence any opposition to Socialism. They are Nazis for daring to think they can think. Please let them know and Allah be praised.

    yao

    Magnus, would you give up the health care you get in Canada for an American system?

    Pre-health care reform, of course.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Um…YES

    Our healthcare system is abused every second of every day. Over half of Toronto is Chinese who just moved here to have kids who will get free health care. Then they go back to Hong Kong and pay taxes (15% income tax as opposed to 50%) there.

    Our health care system if I were paying an insurer would be charging me over 50K a year. So ya…but at least the homeless drug addicts get the same level health care that I do.

    Nurgen

    Impressive that the Chinese went from 11.4% of the Toronto’s population to over 50% in 6 years.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    It’s closer to 60% now.

    Impressive? Dude it fucking SUCKS.

    dallasalice

    Actually socialism works very well for lazy people as they get the rewards of the hard work of the rest of us.

    Korinthian

    I take it you’re against people inheriting money as that’s hardly working for it?

    Did Jesus put a qualifier on what poor people he wanted his followers to help, btw? Or is this just your way of raising your middle finger to the Christian dogma?

    dallasalice

    Why do you care what Jesus thought, dude, you’re an atheist. I swear if you spent half the time you spend obsessing over Jesus and religion on working for a living you would be one of the 1 percent. LOL

    That said, there is a 35% Federal Estate Tax in place now, not to mention state estate taxes. How much do they need to give to you so you feel like you got your share?

    yao

    Maybe enough so that the gap between the rich and the poor isn’t constantly increasing like it is. How about that?

    Tell ya what. Maybe if those so called “patriotic job creators” wouldn’t keep wages essentially flat for 30 years while lining their own pockets, this wouldn’t be a question.

    jonblaze81

    Or you know, you could do something productive like getting an education, target a market you can provide a product or service to, get a small business loan, start a business, hire employees, provide your customers with excellent customer service or products, prudently invest your profits, grow your business, hire more employees or increase the wages of your established employees, become wealthy from the hard work and prudent investments and…… THEN HAVE THE MOTHER F*CKING GOVERNMENT COMES IN AND TAXES YOU AT 50% OR BETTER BECAUSE YOU MAKE OVER $250K A YEAR, AND GIVES YOUR HARD EARNED MONEY TO SOME… Read more »

    HoChunk

    ^Cool ALLCAPS RAGE, poor put-upon straw man.

    dallasalice

    The gap is increasing not because the rich are getting richer but the middle class is disappearing and that is due to the current administration’s job and business killing policies.

    But, hey, at least you admit your a socialist. Obama won’t even do that.

    yao

    Funny. I didn’t admit to being a socialist. I guess that makes you a liar. Isn’t that a sin? Otherwise, your partisan bullshit doesn’t hold water. Business profits are up. CEO pay is up. Wall Street recovered. It’s hard to argue that whole GOP talking point when businesses are making money. But keep pointing fingers at Obama, slave. Where you paying attention a few weeks a ago when the Administration wanted tax cuts for businesses that hire, but the Republicans refused to allow it to come to a vote? My God you are fucking heinously stupid. Your entire point of… Read more »

    Korinthian

    Just trying to determine if you care more about politics than your god.

    Politics it is.

    I’m glad to see you’re turning more and more atheist as you spend time on the Internet. You go, girl!

    dallasalice

    No, you’re just doing the same old tired thing atheists do which is try to tie everything back to religion instead of debating facts. It’s tired and lame and really just lazy, but since it’s really the only thing you know what can you do, right? But instead of the bible and religion lets just do a Chinese quote to explain why capitalism is better than socialism “If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime.” Give a man a fish and he… Read more »

    yao

    A lot of those people who don’t pay taxes are children or disabled or poor.

    Korinthian

    : Never go full Republican!

    I appreciate how you dismiss the bible when wanting to discuss facts, though.

    Oh, and your god won’t be happy when he finds out that you don’t give a shit about what Jesus said about the poor.

    outlanderssc

    political philosophy fail –

    In Socialism, means of production and management thereof is in the hands of the people.

    Hell is ruled by one deity, with total control and absolute power. The people have nothing that is not given to them by the deity.

    Hell is a dictatorship, not a socialist state.

    Then again, so is heaven –

    Luminary

    Hands of the people my ass. Who decides what the means of production will actually produce? Some sort of central committee. Now, maybe the dudes on the committee are elected by the people (and socialist states are well-known for free elections without tampering), but ultimately, the so-called means of production are in the hands of a few again.

    And I’d rather have them in the hands of private citizens instead of the government. Why? Try suing the government, where the plaintiff is also the judge. Good luck.

    dallasalice

    The absolute ignorance of history regarding the numerous failures of socialism and communism expressed by some of you guys is both scary and sad.

    “The hands of the people.” Please. God or lack of a God help me – LOL

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    People get brainwashed from a young age to be indoctrinated into Socialism and it’s ideals. Then they get into the real world as these fucking idiots will and by 25-30 reality teaches them the sense of Capitalism.

    Only bottom feeding welfare cunts keep the Socialism bullshit up because they need the hand outs.

    Look at ANY protest and you’ll see exactly what I mean.

    dallasalice

    They are finding out even earlier as they graduate from college with useless degrees and mountains of school loan debt and find no jobs waiting on them. Why? Because jobs are made by capitalists. Not the government.

    jonblaze81

    If they would major in something besides classical literature, philosophy, women’s studies, etc and other liberal bullsh*t degrees, then they would find much more job opportunities in the market. In short, earn a practical degree that will help you find employment and then you can pay off your student loans. Job creators are not there to cater to dumbf*cks who get liberal arts degrees, they are there to make profits, expand their businesses, give raises to their employees, hire more employees, and make a positive contribution to our system. If you take on one of the aforementioned bullsh*t degrees and… Read more »

    crewmanguy

    I’ve got an International Marketing Bachelors Degree and an Associates Degree in Business Admin. The jobs I’ve worked have been in sales, but have had nothing to do with the degrees I have.
    I’m not saying that a degree in underwater basket weaving has any uses, but that a practical degree and 10 years of experience doesn’t mean much any more.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Only engineers, lawyers, and doctors seem to use any other their degree.

    The only way to start turning things around is to apply what worked before: cut off third world nations like China, stop send any “aide” money to anyone else, and start kicking some ass again. We all got lied to about outsourcing. That should be it. No more deals with third world countries unless it’s to allow them to barter for keeping a small sliver of what we take.

    dallasalice

    BTW, I love it when a comment gets hidden not because the commenter says something offensive but simply because they say something others disagree with. Then again simply disagreeing with some people is offensive these days.

    russell sharpe

    guess life just aint fair and balanced huh

    yao

    News flash, jackass. Nobody is forced to like what you say. They have the right to be offended, slut.

    Feel free to be offended by this.

    crewmanguy

    Your username is Yao. I could care less if you agree or disagree with someone on here. But if your going to call people names, at least have the balls to log in. Doing it anon makes you look like a pussy.

    yao

    Is your real name crewman guy? You’re just as anonymous as I am.

    crewmanguy

    My name is Inigo Montoya, and your a six fingered pussy. And using your username still ties you to the comment even though an alias. Pussy.

    yao

    And you are still anonymous. Usernames don’t even guarantee anything. Hell, I could give you a full name, home address and phone number and there’s no guarantee I am who I say I am. Look, it’s okay if you don’t like what I said. It’s a little weird to be offended at namecalling on M[C]S now, considering the mountain of namecalling that happens on a regular basis, but who cares. But at this point you’re just pulling out some arbitrary standard to criticize me, and the funny thing is you’re falling short of your own standard, since you are also… Read more »

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Point that pistol back in your own face, nutsuck.

    yao

    Ah yes, the patron saint of anonymous internet assholes speaks up.

    I bet you’re some hipster that trolls just to be ironic.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Who is ‘Ah yes’?

    I bet you got AIDS from your own father.

    yao

    You say that as you adjust your scarf.

    Rotatebilly

    Obama is still the lesser of two evils compared to Romney

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    No he’s MASSIVELY the more evil of the two. To an insane degree.

    As much as you’ve been told to hate anything that challenges Obama what real points against Romney are there? Just the usual BS attempts to smear him vs. Obama’s never ending list of shit he’s done.

    The worst of which is every day he’s in office the world respects America a little less.

    Rotatebilly

    He’s going to support major corporations over the general public and he’s a massive hypocrite; he’s doing the whole ‘prolife’ angle despite the fact that he invested in a company that dealt with the disposal of aborted foetuses