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    Korinthian

    Beliefs inform behavior.

    HoChunk

    Point is, it’s the behavior that ultimately counts.

    Quiz:
    1) Do you know somebody with whom you agree on nearly everything, but who constantly does stupid shit & acts like an asshole, even to you?

    2) Do you know somebody who believes in things you consider to be total bullshit, but whose everyday actions are unassailable?

    3) Which person would you rather hang out with?

    Korinthian

    I agree, but this sign implies beliefs don’t matter. Certain beliefs make you a better person.

    RSIxidor

    No they don’t.

    You can believe anything you want. Unless your behavior changes to match those beliefs, the beliefs actually mean fuck all.

    Korinthian

    Read again. Understand this time.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    You’re trying to talk sense to a mongoloid. He types with his face for fucks sake.

    HoChunk

    “Knowledge without mileage equals bullshit.”
    ~Henry Rollins

    RSIxidor

    Both of your sentences could be past tense or future tense. I find this humorous. Thinking grammatically I should assume an understood ‘you,’ meaning the sentences are directed at me, giving the command to read and understand again, however, in common usage this sort of sentence has also come to often imply an understood ‘I.’

    What was your intention?

    Korinthian

    I would have thought the reply to your comment indicated I was talking to you.

    Sometimes you shouldn’t limit your thinking to grammar.

    RSIxidor

    I mostly wanted to point it out because it humored me.

    But you could have been talking about yourself understanding something.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    It’s true. Like Christian beliefs. They make you better. Good point. I’m glad you made that point.

    HoChunk

    No, I get where K is coming from, and I do think that having the right beliefs make it more likely that your actions will also be quality ones. However, the beliefs ALONE don’t make you a better person –at all.
    I can’t tell you how many rude, conceited pricks I’ve known, of every stripe of thought –each of which purported to be the “correct” one– who were perfectly willing to throw tantrums in public in order to prove how much better they were. Seriously.
    Just treat people right.
    /minirant

    RSIxidor

    That’s exactly what I meant. Beliefs don’t make you better, actions do, regardless of whether those actions are based on a belief.

    I apologize if I’ve come across as a rude, conceited prick. I mean, I am one, but I don’t want to come across that way.

    HoChunk

    lol…not at all –and just be one to Mags, since he’s clearly in love with you.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Actually I’m in love with you but you never noticed me because of my glasses.

    RSIxidor

    YOU TRAMP! I’LL KILL YOU!

    HoChunk

    Sorry Fagnus: in spite of what ideas my own av might have given you, I’ll never share your proclivity for furries.

    AustinDav

    Okay, let’s look at the definition of “make.” Just because you say you subscribe to a certain set of beliefs does not automatically mean you are a better person. Actions are the true indicators of a persons “goodness”. However the statement can be read to mean that holding a certain belief won’t make you into a better person. In that case, the statement would be false, as internalized ethics will produce better behavior as they are allowed to guide one’s actions. So, beliefs can transform one into a better person over time. The common way of reading the original post… Read more »

    Uber

    I can hold a gun to your head, and make you behave like a “good” person, doesn’t mean you’re a good person. If I had the Technology to void your initial illicit behaviour, make you void the situation all together, but let the “good” acts slide, then maybe there’s some cognitive dissonance as well? Biconditional, eh?
    Watch A clockwork Orange, I think it touches this topic well. 🙂

    Uber

    Morals are beliefs, and so are values. lulz, are you telling me that those aren’t a factor contributing to “good” behaviour?