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    Animus

    Yeah thats pretty much 100% accurate

    guest

    The detail isn’t that fundamentalist christians behave this way (which they do), but just about everyone does in one way or another.

    What reaction do you think I get when I point out to “pro-choice” people that the only meaningful difference between a 3-week-old fetus and a newborn baby is how noisy they are? And sorry, babies don’t have “feelings” or “thoughts” or “emotions”. They’re like phones: they make a lot of noise when anything happens, but they’re not “conscious” about it anymore that my computer is.

    What reaction do you think I get when I point out to “progressives” that all their prejudices against necrophilia, zoophilia, incest, Oedipus complex, and even pedophilia are purely emotional, irrational and based entirely on misconceptions as much as the fundie’s ideas on homosexuality? And by the way, pedophilia does not equal child molestation anymore than being a black male equals rape. (Hint: desires and actions are 2 very different things.) And of course, necrophiliacs and the rest didn’t “choose” to be the way they are anymore than gays and lesbians did, which in the “progressive’s” minds arbitrarily serves to excuses some groups but not others.

    DMYTRIW WDS

    Did you just try to defend pedophiles and dead people fuckers?

    Luke Magnifico

    You know…. I think he did?

    OPPLE

    I can see where your coming from, but pedophilia is the actual practice of molesting children, the ‘urges’ are a completely different matter.

    Also just thought that I’d point out that your comment did seem to have a lot of sympathy for pedophiles, which is weird

    djethex

    I didn’t read that.

    maninahat

    No, it’s just the urge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia .

    And too fucking right, sympathy for paedophiles. There are people out there who know that they are paedophiles, and know that there are things which turn them on which they can never, ever do – and unlike the ones you hear about on the news, they have the moral strength to resist this urge so they can live a normal life, knowing the way other people would treat them if they knew their secret. I wouldn’t want to live like that.

    kingdavid

    You Christian pedophiles are sick. We Muslims don’t believe in having sex with 9 year girls, unless she is your wife, of course.

    Puulaahi

    Throw them to the lions.

    Dreth

    As long there are places where I can kill unwanted babies, I’m fine.

    OPPLE

    You can kill them anywhere, it’s getting caught that is the problem

    RSIxidor

    sehis’s a beicth but I’d fuckeard her make her feelaa beteter baout athesiams cause IAfcuk her gooods

    Korinthian

    It’s happened a few times now: Christians have gone to court because they think being hateful is part of their religion, claiming that their religious rights should trump the basic human rights of others.

    RSIxidor

    I aodn’t thina ylou sunderstands me.

    Wea nadds to be puota daricks in haer to get bsa her abattatrer

    Korinthian

    fdkjh dfgkjhdfgkj

    RSIxidor

    Damn. I was drunk.

    OPPLE

    We’ve all been there

    Goldfinger

    Is the nutjob quota especially high in the US? Just askin’, because I study in a Semiar full of Christians and none of them is like the caricatures you guys got over there. I wonder…

    outlanderssc

    Yes, it is – in the Midwest and South we have the “evangelicals”, mostly small town people who have never met a real Jew, Muslim or Gay person. They follow their preachers, even when the preacher directly conflicts with the teachings of Jesus – and they believe their religion is absolute and must someday overtake the world as ordained by God. It is a sin to them not to attempt to convert you. Most are hard-line conservatives, despite the fact that Jesus was clearly described in the Bible as a serious liberal, pacifist and practicing communist.

    I love Bill O’Reilly’s remarks last week – that the Norway bomber couldn’t possibly have been a Christian because nobody who follows Jesus could possibly commit murder – I guess Bill never read about the Crusades, the inquisition, the witch trials, the holocaust or the Papal Wars.

    According to Bill, when a Muslim commits murder in the name of Allah the whole religion is to blame, but when a Christian commits murder in the name of Christ he’s “clearly not a Christian”

    These people have a complete disconnect from reality.

    Goldfinger

    Well, there certainly is a difference between mainstream christianity today and at the times of the crusades / witch hunts / papal wars.
    The problem about all these things: Except for maybe the witch hunts, none of them were purely religious matters (especially not the Spanish Inquisition or the Holocaust), just like modern islamist terrorism. And as soon as politics meddle with religion and religion becomes a vehicle for POLITICAL extremists, this will corrupt the religion. Which brings us to Bill O’Reilly, I guess. You can call me Susan if that guy doesn’t have a strong political agenda mixed into his religious babble.
    Another big problem (that me and my fellow students discuss a lot) is, that discourse about such matters is left to people like Bill O’Reilly, which is partly the fault of us liberal christians. People like Bill are loud and agressive while more moderate and liberal Christians like me tend to keep their religion a private matter. Same goes for a lot of laid-back atheists I know. But that means that religious/non-religious discourse and the public displays of religion and atheism are left to the concrete heads and the nutjobs.

    Professor

    I get the feeling that if their Jesus ever did come back, the US Christian Conservatives and Fundamentalists would immediately nail the poor bugger back up again for being “Too goddam Liberal!”

    sleepyjoe256

    Hell, if Jesus did come back, they’d lock him up in the looney bin. What the hell else do you do to someone who claims to be Jesus?

    przxqgl

    Religion is like a penis: It’s fine to have one, but a person doesn’t have to have one to have valid ideas.
    It’s fine to be proud of it, but please don’t whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don’t try to shove it down my children’s throats.

    OPPLE

    So it all comes back to being a pedophile in the end

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