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    Victory, eh? I think that’s a bit premature.

    tiki god

    president signed it in earlier this week, house ratified the changes that the senate made today, will go back to him to be signed next week.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    Except this HCR bill isn’t a “victory” in any sense. It’s like solving the public transportation problem by fining everyone who doesn’t own a car.


    I’ll take my wins wherever I can get them. Not having to fear about paying for insurance until I’m 26 is nice, as well as the extended Pell Grants (too bad I’m just about graduated).Theres just so much good about this reform that I’m loving it.


    And they still manage to nerf things up in the end.


    Bad typography is BAD. Not so much on the first one but damn look at that second one. Helvetica has a whole slew of Compressed faces, but you gotta use the knock-off Arial and then squish it? Ew.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Who exactly is it a victory over?

    Demo guy
    I want free health care.

    Repu guy
    No way. Leave shit alone.

    Demo guy
    Ha! I win (maybe) and now I have free health care.

    Repu guy
    Me too.

    Now who are the stupid ones?

    fracked again

    You are, Marge. Victories aren’t necessarily one side over the other, and it isn’t free.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    In order for there to be a victory there must be a victor who is victorious over something or someone.

    If both sides win then its not a victory at all.

    Quit pretending you faggots are tough.

    Ya it ain’t free. It costs money. Other people’s money that you are basically large scale begging for.

    Congrats on whining long enough that someone put some change in your hand.


    fracked again

    So in your mind, the bill needed to read that no republicans could get coverage? I’m sorry Marge, but that is especially stupid, casemods level stupid.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    So who are you winning over then?

    Are you smart enough to see the stupidity of your claim of victory? No you’re not. You’ll just keep trying to appropriate your ill conceived opposing perspective over and over. That’s because you’re a fucking retard.

    The point is everybody wins so shut the fuck up and quit being pests.

    When you position yourself as victorious you can expect a backlash you stupid fuck.


    You’re winning over the people who didn’t want the bill to be passed. The people who opposed the bill? They lost. Sure, they’ll get health care, but not on the terms they wanted. Really, go ask a Republican who opposed this if they think they won or lost.

    I can only assume you’re intentionally being this obstinate, I like to imagine that no one could be this stupid on accident and still be able to function in society.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Pull your head out of your ass and try not to hit your boyfriend’s balls on the way out.

    Also who is this Really person? You’re so smart you don’t need to pass grade 10 English.

    Then you go on to address Sure.

    You didn’t win anything. A bill got passed that benefits everyone. Wake up, retard. You’re not tough and you’re not in a war. If you were you’d have lost a long time ago.

    I can only assume you’re actually handicapped because no one with an IQ over 60 could miss this obvious point over and over again.


    Ha ha! Way to address the way someone writes rather than the issue. That sure proves your point.

    Republicans opposed the bill. Democrats supported it. The bill passed, and you don’t see it as a loss for the Republicans, even though they do. Okay.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    They get the same benefits you do.

    In case you’re still too desperate to argue to see whats plainly in front of your face: I’m glad the bill was passed.

    Not to mention the insurance corporations they defend are now going to be able to charge people more money.


    More like:

    Democrat: The health insurance industry needs to be changed.
    Republican: No it doesn’t, it’s fine.
    Democrat: We should do this.
    Republican: No!
    Democrat: Fine, this instead.
    Republican: No!
    Democrat: We’re doing it anyway.
    Republican: Fuck you.
    Democrat: Fuck you. *passes bill*

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Ya you guys are just like the begging badasses lol

    You forgot the part after your “fuck you” where the republican has free health care too you stupid prick.

    Its like you guys are purposely delusional.

    The whole country benefits. Even the ‘big bad right wing people/ people you’ve likened to all the people who have picked on you’ get it too.

    So really as much as you win…you lose.

    Way to win that one. You’re a real ass kicker now.

    Special Kail

    you are a fucking retard. No one was trying to get health care just for the democrats. even if pieces of shit like you get covered to, the principle is that everyone should be covered… even the conservatives/republicans/watever. of all the arguments against health care, yours is by far the worst. that includes people who are against health care because “obama’s a socialist nazi nigger”. thats how fucking stupid you are, you’re lower than an ignorant backwater tea party hick. oh and your mom blows black dick for loose change.


    Health care costs are not the same as health care insurance (except for the first two words). As to punishing the evil insurance companies, I don’t see how this is going to punish them with the mandated you have to buy insurance thing for everyone (including repubs, dems, illegals, and “socialist nazi niggers”, wait, he’s exempt).

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    I’m Canadian. Way to fail hard, fucko.

    You can’t even sling shit properly. Hell you even misspelled whatever.

    I think it’s clear who the retard is here, Corky.

    I have health care.

    That doesn’t change shit about what I said. I’m saying YOU’RE the pussyfags. I pointed out the logic hole in the plan.

    Why don’t you learn to comprehend what you read you little bitch.

    Oh and I’m also born and raised in the 4th largest city on the continent, have more money in my wallet than your mom makes giving handjobs to wetbacks in a fucking year, and am so far above you on the food chain you’re not fit to lick shit off my shoes.

    You sure have proven how “special” you are special gay.

    Now fuckoff.

    fracked again

    Nobody here is named “fucko” or “Corky.” You lose again.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    I’m addressing him as them as an insult, retard. Oh wait…you’re name isn’t retard? It’s what you are though and the grammar is therefore appropriate.

    Lose? I can’t lose when I’m arguing with losers. It’s predetermined that you will always say something that makes you look like even more of a niggerfag.


    I think this would go best if people stop feeding the troll

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    People with different points of views are only trolls to nutjobs.


    I`ll never be able to afford it.Fuck.And pay a fine.None of this shit is free people.


    If you really truly can not afford it, you should fit into one of the ranges where it will be heavily discounted or exempted. I hope.


    Yeah, it’s not free. We’re all gonna pay for it in higher taxes. 🙁


    We still need higher taxes to pay for those two wars we never hear about…


    that’s why everyone pay taxes, everywhere: public services

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Your taxes are far lower.

    That’s a major draw for people who can afford health insurance and are tired of carrying the dead weight who are completely unappreciative.

    You guys think you’re on the right side on this but you’re not.

    Say hello to 52% income tax. Land transfer tax. Want to write off your mortgage against your income tax? No. Not allowed anymore.

    Basically you guys are going to get taxed to death and the government now has an excuse you’ll always buy into.

    That’s what happens here.

    Oh and the whole thing will be heavily abused.

    But good for you. With the victory and such.

    If you were really so anxious for it why didn’t you just move slightly north?


    Yeah, yeah, yeah, we heard all the same lies about Medicare too. HCR is paid for, and actually reduces the deficit. Lern2CBO.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca


    It’s Canada’s reality, stupid. lol

    oh and again for the new losers who want to recycle their usual hillybilly/nazi accusations when someone doesn’t agree with them: I’m Canadian.

    3rd party perspective is: You’re going to regret it.


    As someone who now pays mandatory health insurance in Switzerland… it’s not a big difference. In fact, the only time I notice it is when I get a hospital bill, when it’s freaking cheap compared to what I was paying in the U.S.

    The unemployment rate here is also only 4%, even with the economic downturn, so it’s not like it’s going to bomb the economy.

    Whatever. People deserve their ignorance and fear-mongering if they listen/watch Fox News.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    unemployment is not related to health care. its related to tax hikes. tax hikes are related to the ability for a company to complete internationally.

    America already can’t. This is the nail in your economies coffin unless you start taxing imported goods to a level where they’ll be priced competitively with domestically produced goods.

    Which would be a source for the money for health care.

    But it would mean pissing off another countries government and you’ll find very quickly no country ever wants to do that.


    Yeah…switzerland doesn’t have a rather large group of lazy ass fucks that don’t do shit other than suck off the .gov tit…forgot to throw that one in. Also, living in Texas, you don’t have a rather large pool of people who are working, but “under the table” and not paying in SSI, or any other kinds of tax for that matter. And then turning around and sending more than half their wages BACK to their actual home down south.

    This isn’t vitriol that is spewed out on FNS, this is the actual TRUTH that slaps you in the face when you decide to actually go out and use your fucking eyes and see what the hell is really going on in this broken country.

    tiki god

    it’s still just as insane as when they say it. that “rather large pool” that you’re talking about isn’t very large compared to the number of people that are officially working in the US.


    Also, Switzerland has no standing army to fund. I’m sure all of you who love this healthcare bill also hate our military, but don’t worry: we’ll soon make huge defense cuts to pay for the poor, poor, pitiful poors healthcare, despite the fact that they will still afford beer and cigs.

    Special Kail

    yes. because everyone is talking about defense budget cuts.. oh wait, no they’re not. they’re raising taxes to pay for the health care bill, fucktard.

    you could learn a thing or two from switzerland guy.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Ya take that.

    Oh enjoy your 20% income tax hike. That’ll be the first raise.

    Only an IMMENSELY stupid fucking person trusts their government.

    Yes I’m calling all the half wit semi educated but completely inexpedience doucherags in here stupid. You are and in the end the “victory” will be for everyone saying ‘told you so’.

    fracked again

    Yes, Texas has a very large gene pool. Pity its so shallow in most places.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Way to wear your bigotry on your sleeve.

    All the while recycling gay ass jokes you read on some leftist retard blog somewhere.

    Also who is this Yes person?


    Don’t start your sentence with the word pity.

    ‘It’s true that Texas has a very large gene pool but it’s a pity that it’s so shallow in most places.’

    You’re almost as annoying as casemods.

    fracked again

    Bigotry? Making a joke about a state is bigotry? Before you start lecturing people about the proper use of language, perhaps you could check a dictionary.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    You are prejudice against people from Texas.

    I bet you’re fucking dumb enough to think it was limited to race and by race I mean not white people.

    God damn you really are gunning for the crown of king asshat aren’t you you fucking dumbshit?

    By the way: “Before you start lecturing people about the proper use of language, perhaps you could check a dictionary.”

    Don’t start the sentence with Before. There is also no need for the comma. I know you used it to indicate a pause in the sentence. Most 3rd grade students would do the same but it is incorrect.

    If you’re going to try and engage someone you should probably get your GED first at least.

    fracked again

    Blah blah retard, blah blah fucking dumbshit, blah blah GED. You didn’t read that definition, did you, Marge?

    1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one’s own.

    That doesn’t fit, because there isn’t a Texan creed, belief or opinion.

    2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.

    Still doesn’t fit for making a joke about Texas or Texans. I am a bigot against some things, religious fundamentalists for example, furries for another.

    You, on the other hand, I just feel pity for.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    “The attitude, state of mind, or behavior characteristic of a bigot; intolerance.”

    You are intolerant of Texans, retard. You’re the one who has lumped them all together. The parameters of that grouping are limited to your three legged little brain.

    I feel pity for anyone who still can’t use a comma properly you stupid prick.

    You’re a huge fucking loser. I am a bigot against self important, half way educated morons like you.

    You feel pity while taking the bus to your faggot ass rallies. I’ll see if I notice when I drive past.

    Thanks for playing. Maybe next time play a little harder. This was like kicking dog shit out of the way.

    Read beyond the first two sentences.

    fracked again

    Blah blah retard. Blah blah fucking loser. Blah blah faggot ass. Blah blah dog shit.

    When did you become the political correctness police, Marge? Did I really offend any Texans with a joke? Then fuck them for being so thin skinned that such a dumb joke would make them cry.

    Am I intolerant of Texans? Do you really think you can make that claim?

    But hey, you are the same person who can’t understand the concept of a legislative victory not having to be a victory over somebody, so I’ll just let you continue with your self important little fit. I don’t know why I expected you to be able to use a dictionary without adding your own special interpretation.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    I showed you how you were wrong. Its right there you fucking faggot.

    The fact that you can’t accept you’re wrong there says more than this whole thread combined.

    People like you are just mindless drones following some media hyped half nig.

    You can’t even master the use of a fucking comma but you still think you’re smart.

    Today’s lesson: retarded people can’t comprehend their own retardation. ‘fracked again’ is a case study in stupidity.

    Enjoy your poverty, dumbshit.

    fracked again

    You are making a ridiculous claim, Marge. , But, keep on ,with the grammar, nazi game and your assumption,,,that a sin,gle joke makes for bigotry,.

    BTW, Obama is a huge disappointment, but I didn’t expect magic from him in the first place.


    “a rather large group of lazy ass fucks that don’t do shit other than suck off the .gov tit”

    It’s not that large, there are only 41 Republican Senators.


    You mean people will have to have health insurance so I won’t have to pay for their dumb asses when they get sick or in a car accident and end up in the hospital? God forbid.


    LOL who do you think will be paying for the people that cant afford it? HELLO!!!!


    This thread is living proof that MCS needs an ignore feature.


    I still have my shirt that says “I voted for Bush and all I got was this historic victory in Iraq and Afghanistan”

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