Open Source Resistance 3

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Loved the conversation in the last one.

Here we go again!


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    Nothing to see here.
    Move all, there is nothing here.


    Tried to sign up for the mailing llist, just for the hell of, but my mail got bounced. Seems is spam filter is a little overzealous.


    [waiting for storm]


    @Lamb: @numb7rs:
    You two are under arrest for stupidity.


    I refuse to apologize for being more free than the rest of the world


    @numb7rs: I don’t see the connection between what I said and what numb7rs did… What I said was agreeing with what Sticky said.
    And if stupidity were a crime, I would have been arrested a long time ago.


    @nobody knows: I don’t see the connection between what I said and what numb7rs did… What I said was agreeing with what Sticky said.
    And if stupidity were a crime, I would have been arrested a long time ago.

    told you

    Luke Magnifico

    I’ll use my voice, alright.

    Fuck you.


    I’m sorry but can someone please explain that website for me? I liked what i saw until i watched the video on there featuring an actor giving a stupid talk, a NIN concert that got broken up by more actors playing the part of supposed fbi agents. then i see talk about some sort of video game and proposed tv show on hbo? is this all just fake and supposed to get ppl excited for a stupid video game or tv show? i dont understand.


    And the U.S. is one of the safest mother fucking places in the world. Not to mention all the spending on defense that we give to other nations.

    I fucking. Hate. NIN.

    Luke Magnifico

    Or, alternatively;

    I’ll use my voice alright.

    Hurray for capitalism! I embrace the security the state affords me, and wholly support their campaign of surveillance!

    Luke Magnifico

    @njch412: Are you fucking serious? The U.S. has spent the last 50 years or so making enemies of every volatile country with any destructive power.


    There is no safe place. Freedom does not equal safety.

    Luke Magnifico

    @Annarchy: Ireland’s pretty safe. We don’t have any enemies and we’re too small for anyone to bother attacking us. Might as well wage war on Malta.

    And we’re pretty free.


    A: Our company can offer you the best price for the job and reliable service.
    B: How can I be sure of that?
    A: Well, C across town will vouch for our reliability.
    B: And why should I trust C?
    A: Well, I can assure you that C is reliable and can be trusted.


    Only 14 countries are completly free


    …And you using the “ABC” metaphor made me think of the Pythagorean theorem for some reason.


    @Hoolison: Woo! Go Zimbabwe!


    Pythagoras is one of my top three favourite mathematicians. He has a magnificent name though, it starts with P, so that has probably a lot to do with it. And the ABC metaphor always makes me think of the theorem as well.


    I fucking love the Pythagorean theorem. Probably because it’s easy. I also like quadratic equations.


    Also, you should totally get online since I can stay up to 2 or 3 am tonight.


    @Annarchy: I think they may be mutually exclusive.


    Gay as ever.


    “Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.” –Benjamin Franklin


    @nyokki: In terms of absolute, yes. It’s impossible to be totally free and totally safe at the same time. So we trade a little of one for a little of the other. I’m willing to give up the freedom to go around stabbing people in the face free of consequences in return for the safety of not being stabbed in the face myself. I’m not 100% safe, sure, but I didn’t 100% relinquish my face-stabby freedom, so it balances out. @Marrock: It’s essential liberty for temporary safety. lern2quote imo. And don’t tell me it’s not an important distinction. If I’m… Read more »


    Don’t forget the “and will lose both.”


    When your country is the most powerful military and political force in the world you make A LOT of enemies and enemies who pretend they are your friends.


    The guns and the bombs, the rockets and the warships, are all symbols of human failure.”
    – Lyndon B. Johnson


    The bigger dick foreign policy works like this: “What? They have bigger dicks? BOMB THEM.” And of course the bombs and the rockets and the bullets are all shaped like dicks.

    –George Carlin


    @LukeV1-5: This might be true now, but very recently Ireland was not exactly what I would call safe from its own citizens. And if you’re not free to walk down the street safely, what’s the point?

    @nyokki: I believe they are. You can be free, but you sacrifice safety. And, of course, to be safe, you must sacrifice freedom. That’s how government works. (watching the Freedom Day episode of Futurama right now, by the way) Which is why I don’t like or condone a group getting together and deciding what safety and freedom mean for me.


    @Sticky: bomb the brown people 🙂

    Luke Magnifico

    @Annarchy: What are you talking about? The Northern Troubles?

    That’s the UK.

    Luke Magnifico

    And even then, I think your knowledge of the period is skewed.


    I like the Open Source Resistance website. One phrase always comes to mind: Pick up that can.


    @LukeV1-5: You’re right, my knowledge is a bit skewed, because I didn’t want to visit while the crap was actively hitting the fan. But, now that all that is done (hoorah!), how free are you if you can’t light a cigarette in a pub? Not to say that things are much better where I am, because I’ve heard of people getting arrested for smoking at bus stops in Arizona.

    Luke Magnifico

    @Annarchy: You’re not allowed smoke in places of work, because of the dangers of second hand smoke.

    That’s not exactly an impingement on your freedom. If you’re smoking in a pub, you’re pretty much forcing everyone else to breathe the fumes.


    I had a student that went to Trinity College at Univ. of Dublin and he said that more than a few pubs had built 3 walls and a ceiling structures for patrons to smoke (apparently if it didn’t have 4 walls, it wasn’t a building). The eve had heaters along the walls. He said that everyone hung out there and almost no one stayed in pub proper.


    @nyokki: These ‘structures’ were usually attached to the pub itself.


    @LukeV1-5: While I completely agree that we smokers do not have any rights, and should not have any rights (I am not interested in poisoning anyone but myself, honestly, with my icky habit), I would like to say that I feel as if the laws that are being passed are meant to protect the very small minority. For example: if you don’t know what goes on in a pub (adult activities like smoking, drinking, fighting, kissing, singing bad songs, etc.), you must be a moron. Yet, legislation is being written and passed to protect exactly those people. How many people… Read more »