I can understand why people like Macs, but damn do I love opening up my machine and messing with it. Can you imagine if you owned a car that you couldn’t open the hood on?
Unless you’re talking about the all-in-one iMac or a notebook, you can open a Mac and mess around with it just like a PC. They make all-in-one and notebook PCs, and they’re just as hard to mess with as Apples.
In fact, many of the MacPro towers are actually EASIER to open than the average PC case. It’s part of what makes a Mac more expensive – having a pricey case that’s better than the run-of-the-mill $30 PC case.
@NoOneInParticular
Look, I really don’t want to get into this, but one of my best friends is an in-store “Mac Genius,” and she’s always using her little political talking points on me.
*sigh* Okay, I’ll nibble on your flamebait…
o_O? Easier? I’ve opened up both machines, my friend, and it’s pretty similar, except one costs more because it has a monopoly on all parts and services. There’s a reason why auto parts are standardized.
@NoOneInParticular: Wow, Mac Users are delusional. Just because you can open the case, doesn’t mean there’s MILLIONS of upgrades and tuning options like on a PC. Can you replace the motherboard on a Mac? Can you replace the case? Can you completely remove every trace of the OS that came with it? I thought not.
We’ve had Computers in daily life for over 30 years now. For fuck’s sake, by now you should be able to build one for $300 in parts and $0 in OS and software. Wait, they’ve got that already?
That’s it. I’m throwing down. I’m going to go through my many spare parts bins and build a PC system from scratch in less time than it takes for a new Mac user to get buyers remorse.
Uhm? Opening a PC case is hard? Da fuck? It takes me ten seconds to open mine, and I’m supposed to be a woman.
Pfft. Macs suck. Photoshop on Macs used to win, but photoshop runs better on PC’s better any day. Apples are stupid when it comes to upgrades, basically what you buy is what you’re stuck with. It’s easy as hell to update a PC. I’ve done all my own upgrades, ram, video card, hard drive, etc, etc.
FxChiP
12 years ago
@Paul_Is_Drunk: “There’s a reason why auto parts are standardized.” There’s a reason computer parts are standardized too. PowerMacs and Mac Pros have been using standard memory, PCI architecture, ATA, etc. since PowerPC G3 — possibly before. And were way ahead of their time in terms of support too — rumor has it you can stick up to 1.5 GB of RAM in one of the oldies. I haven’t personally verified this myself. @AlecDalek: I’m doing your posts in order. There *ARE* millions of upgrades and tuning options. Just like a PC, you have to do your fucking research and make… Read more »
@FxChiP: before the Intel macs, macs couldn’t just use the same speed/type ram, they had to get special mac ram, which cost a shitload more. And I laugh at your attempt to say macs are easy to swap parts out in. I can replace the RAM/HD/keyboard/wifi-card in almost any windows laptop in 60 seconds or less. Ok, so the newest mac laptop is a bit better with this than the older ones… so it took them how much longer than windows laptop makers to GET A FUCKING CLUE? And its still not as easy. Example 1(right from your link): “To… Read more »
FxChiP
12 years ago
@hvymetal86: You wrote: before the Intel macs, macs couldn’t just use the same speed/type ram, they had to get special mac ram, which cost a shitload more. No, you idiot, they used standard SDRAM. G3 and G4 used PC100 and PC133. They moved on to standard DDR in later versions — just that they, Apple, didn’t support your ass if you didn’t buy Apple. Most PC vendors don’t support you if you don’t buy your parts from them anyway. Yes, I know this from experience. I’ve upgraded a hell of a lot more Macs than you, I suspect, including the… Read more »
sounds like the method of updating an xbox
hahaha funny cuz its true!!
WHY THE FUCK IS THE PC GETTIN NAKED?!?!? O_o
maybe hes gonna upgrade his tie
@joeyisapest: Yeah, that’s actually a pretty good analogy for pc upgrades.
I can understand why people like Macs, but damn do I love opening up my machine and messing with it. Can you imagine if you owned a car that you couldn’t open the hood on?
@Paul_Is_Drunk:
Unless you’re talking about the all-in-one iMac or a notebook, you can open a Mac and mess around with it just like a PC. They make all-in-one and notebook PCs, and they’re just as hard to mess with as Apples.
In fact, many of the MacPro towers are actually EASIER to open than the average PC case. It’s part of what makes a Mac more expensive – having a pricey case that’s better than the run-of-the-mill $30 PC case.
@NoOneInParticular
Look, I really don’t want to get into this, but one of my best friends is an in-store “Mac Genius,” and she’s always using her little political talking points on me.
*sigh* Okay, I’ll nibble on your flamebait…
o_O? Easier? I’ve opened up both machines, my friend, and it’s pretty similar, except one costs more because it has a monopoly on all parts and services. There’s a reason why auto parts are standardized.
@NoOneInParticular: Wow, Mac Users are delusional. Just because you can open the case, doesn’t mean there’s MILLIONS of upgrades and tuning options like on a PC. Can you replace the motherboard on a Mac? Can you replace the case? Can you completely remove every trace of the OS that came with it? I thought not.
We’ve had Computers in daily life for over 30 years now. For fuck’s sake, by now you should be able to build one for $300 in parts and $0 in OS and software. Wait, they’ve got that already?
That’s it. I’m throwing down. I’m going to go through my many spare parts bins and build a PC system from scratch in less time than it takes for a new Mac user to get buyers remorse.
@AlecDalek: Ahaha. Pics or it didn’t happen.
Uhm? Opening a PC case is hard? Da fuck? It takes me ten seconds to open mine, and I’m supposed to be a woman.
Pfft. Macs suck. Photoshop on Macs used to win, but photoshop runs better on PC’s better any day. Apples are stupid when it comes to upgrades, basically what you buy is what you’re stuck with. It’s easy as hell to update a PC. I’ve done all my own upgrades, ram, video card, hard drive, etc, etc.
@Paul_Is_Drunk: “There’s a reason why auto parts are standardized.” There’s a reason computer parts are standardized too. PowerMacs and Mac Pros have been using standard memory, PCI architecture, ATA, etc. since PowerPC G3 — possibly before. And were way ahead of their time in terms of support too — rumor has it you can stick up to 1.5 GB of RAM in one of the oldies. I haven’t personally verified this myself. @AlecDalek: I’m doing your posts in order. There *ARE* millions of upgrades and tuning options. Just like a PC, you have to do your fucking research and make… Read more »
@FxChiP: before the Intel macs, macs couldn’t just use the same speed/type ram, they had to get special mac ram, which cost a shitload more. And I laugh at your attempt to say macs are easy to swap parts out in. I can replace the RAM/HD/keyboard/wifi-card in almost any windows laptop in 60 seconds or less. Ok, so the newest mac laptop is a bit better with this than the older ones… so it took them how much longer than windows laptop makers to GET A FUCKING CLUE? And its still not as easy. Example 1(right from your link): “To… Read more »
@hvymetal86: You wrote: before the Intel macs, macs couldn’t just use the same speed/type ram, they had to get special mac ram, which cost a shitload more. No, you idiot, they used standard SDRAM. G3 and G4 used PC100 and PC133. They moved on to standard DDR in later versions — just that they, Apple, didn’t support your ass if you didn’t buy Apple. Most PC vendors don’t support you if you don’t buy your parts from them anyway. Yes, I know this from experience. I’ve upgraded a hell of a lot more Macs than you, I suspect, including the… Read more »