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    Alec Dalek

    Dude, seriously. The bible was just written by some people, and not some deity. Would a so-call “perfect” being write a book with so damn many mistakes?

    skeptically.org/bible/id6.html

    Caio

    Wow stunning new insight there alec.

    Alec Dalek

    It is for some people.

    gor

    Why wouldn’t Jesus be real, I know alot of Jesus’.

    Also, Easter is named after a pagan Anglo, Saxon and Viking goddess Eostre, the name has nothing to do with christain bible.

    Nurgen

    O really? Now please explain to us how Santa has nothing to do with Easter.

    Caio

    I was raised calling it Páscoa what does that mean Gor?

    deuce

    I believe the correct pluralization of Jesus is “Jesi”.

    TANAKA-3

    In regards to the site posted in comment 1: There aren’t 194 contradictions. I checked.

    Alec Dalek

    Ok, maybe it’s actually 195, or 196. Lets not split hairs. The point is that if god exists, he needs to get his story straight.

    TANAKA-3

    @AlecDalek
    No, there’s maybe five. Maybe. The rest are… taken out of context is the best way I can think of to say it. Like some one was looking to find things wrong with it and when they did, they wrote it down without trying to see if it could work. Does that make sense?

    Alec Dalek

    Even if there is ONE contradiction, that invalidates the concept of a “perfect being”. You are admitting to at least 5, which is more than enough.

    There are in fact hundreds of errors and contradictions in both the old and new testament. The list I linked to is actually over a 100 years old, and has been vetted and examined for a long time. I found a number of them on my own back when I was younger and my parents made be do daily bible readings.

    But then your typical christian isn’t accustomed to looking at things objectively. They’re already 100% committed to the lie, and don’t want to leave their comfort zone.

    TANAKA-3

    No, I said there might be five. I don’t care how old a list is, it can still be wrong. There are people on both sides of the issue who wont change their minds and are blind to what they don’t want to see.

    I found a lot of these too when I was a kid too, but as I grew up I looked more closely and they aren’t contradictions. An angel showed up to Mary in Mathew, and Joseph in Luke. The angel just showed up twice, for two different reasons. Told Mary what was going to happen, and Joseph not to bail. The only one I have problems with is how Judas died. The rest are contextual.

    Alec Dalek

    I don’t know what more than I can offer than cold hard proof. But the fact that there are so many different religions that have sprung up from one single book goes to show just how contradictory it really is.

    If it was written by an all knowing god, you’d think they would be smart enough to know how to clearly communicate with their own creation. The fact that it can be interpreted in so many different ways testifies to it’s human origins.

    Not to mention the fact that it took “god” over 4000 year to write one book (they created the entire earth in only 6 days). And even after the bible was written, around 100 AD, it was well over another 1000 years before it was made available to everyone to read. What took so long?

    TANAKA-3

    Do people ever misunderstand you? You communicate well, but ill bet people don’t always understand what you say or what you are trying to communicate. People want to take thing out of context and use them their own advantage. If I can use the Bible to prove that God wants me in power, why wouldn’t I do it. We can take anything out of context and make it say almost anything we want.

    Alec Dalek

    You’re absolutely right. But would think that if god gave us a book, it would be a lot clearer. He would have divine insight into how people would try to bend his words, and nip them in the bud by adding more details (like when exactly does a fetus become “human”).

    Don’t get me wrong. I’m not an atheist, and I hope there really is a god or gods. I just haven’t been convinced. I don’t think you can prove there is a god and I don’t think you can prove there isn’t.

    I just wish religious groups would stop imposing their beliefs on others (in a seemingly blatant attempt at convincing themselves). None of the major religions agree on very much, so civilization and human development get dragged down while a few closed minded “believers” drag the rest of us into wars and oppression. Given the track record, I think we may have been better without any of these “holy” documents.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    “I just wish religious groups would stop imposing their beliefs on others ”
    I would be content if they didn’t close the liquor stores on Easter.

    Alec Dalek

    It’s ironic that the only place you can get booze on Easter Sunday is at the Easter Service itself.

    TANAKA-3

    I would have to agree on that point too. One really can’t prove one way or the other. Makes these arguments kind of frustrating. and yeah, Christians need to stop trying to bring about a perfect world here.

    Ando


    “One really can’t prove one way or the other.”
    That old chestnut.
    The burden of proof lies with the party making the ridiculous claim – see FSM.

    rattybad

    I don’t think it’s fair to assume that the contradictions are God’s…considering the text was written in several languages originally, and then transcribed and retranscribed over the ages, with Middle Ages monks purposefully changing the text to make themselves “immortal,” so to speak, and that’s only accounting for purposeful mistakes–how many people post here and misspell words that or say things that they don’t mean to? And then you have the King James Bible which was published with the express purpose of making the text more artful, and New Age Bibles that are meant to simplify ideas. So yeah, there could be some contradictions, but whether those were in there originally or not is impossible to say.

    Nurgen

    You are correct, it’s not fair to assume that the contradictions in the bible came from a nonexistent being.

    tiki god


    “o yeah, there could be some contradictions, but whether those were in there originally or not is impossible to say.”
    uh, no.

    For the most part the original scriptures are still available, and ready for anyone to go back and translate / interpret them

    Alec Dalek

    Tiki’s right. You can walk into almost any Christian bookstore and purchase “interlinear” versions of the Bible that have the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek.

    Also, if God exists, I’m sure he’d exercise some influence over the transcription of the text to ensure his original message gets through. Without this assumption, how can a Christian believe a single word of it?

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    How do you expect God to answer your prayers if He can’t even maintain editorial control over His own work? God supposed killed a guy just for trying to keep the Ark from tipping over, He should be able to bitch slap a monk for making a typo.

    Dral

    www.universallight.org/open_letter_from_god.htm

    God never wrote the book. Hence why half of it is named after the apostles who wrote their versions.

    Nurgen

    The books named after the apostles weren’t written by those apostles. Those books were named by a committee over a thousand years after they were written. The books weren’t even written in the right language to have been written by the apostles, most of whom were almost certainly illiterate. Also, most people don’t give accounts of their own deaths.

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