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    Thomas Edison is on there twice.


    They’re all going to/in hell, too, apparently.


    Oh, and since when is Terry Pratchett an American?

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    Kurt Vonnegut, Einstein, Ford, Edison, Hemingway and a few more are dead so they’d already be in hell. If it were real. Especially Einstein and Soderberg cause they’re jews.

    Only one M in Hemingway though. I think.


    Albert Einstein wasn’t an athiest. Shows how much a random picture on the internet knows! :\


    Einstein was also German-born . . . so America can’t really claim credit for him.


    Einstein wasnt american
    and was gene wilder
    and Kathrine hephburn wasnt hot so idc
    and wasnt she british too?


    okay, and how many of them were actually american?


    Henry Ford also openly supported the Nazi party and published anti-jewish propaganda. Not really a “great american’. Ford also had scattered religious beliefs. Unconventional, but very religious.

    Kurt Vonnegut was an adamant atheist, but didn’t mind people who were religious, and even encouraged people to follow religion because he recognized how positive it could be in people’s lives.

    This list contains at least four or five people who had religious beliefs, and a few agnostics. I would define atheist as someone who has a belief system revolving around the concept of no God, as opposed to an Agnostic or someone who doesn’t participate in organized religion but still has spiritual and/or religion-oriented beliefs.

    Bertrand Russel was British – an Earl, I believe- and was the grandson of John Russel, an important Prime Minister. Richard Leakey was born in Kenya, and has lived in Africa most of his life.

    Also, “great americans”. Since when did Penn, Teller, Steven Soderberg, Lance Armstrong and Gene Wilder qualify as “great” in the same way as Eistein, Edison or the Woz? Talented entertainers, but nothing significant in the long run.

    Stupidest image I’ve seen in a while.


    I’m just saying… But wasn’t Einstien technically a German Jew? I’m not saying he wasn’t atheist, I’m just saying I’m not sure he was American. If he was then nevermind this post… Doo dee dee.. daaa daaa da.. Hail Christ!


    Einstein didn’t believe in a personal, human-like god, or in traditional Judaism, but he had beliefs in a higher power, and was by all accounts a very religions person.


    “as opposed to an Agnostic or someone who doesn’t participate in organized religion but still has spiritual and/or religion-oriented beliefs.”

    That’s not what an agnostic is,:

    “a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. ”

    Or, in layman’s terms, someone that understands that they don’t know enough to make a decision on something so far beyond their own ability to think. They don’t need to be spiritual and/or have religion-oriented beliefs to be agnostic. They merely have to be intelligent enough to understand that taking something on ‘faith’ is insane. Atheists and theists alike fall prey to that type of insanity. 🙁


    I meant to but a comma there. I meant that atheism is different from agnosticism, and that atheism is also different from private spirituality.


    I’m bored:

    Magaret (spelt wrong up there) Sanger – Believed in eugenics. Nice in theory, has always been terrible in practise. Not Great

    Ford – Nazi, anti-semite. Religious.

    Einstein – Moved to america as an old man. Religious.

    Lance Armstrong – No one will remember who he is in a few decades.

    Hemingway – Disliked organized religion. Never claimed to be an atheist. Friends said he remained religion inspite of leaving the church.

    Terry Prachett- British. Google indicates that he lives in Wiltshire, England.

    George Bernard Shaw – Irish, lived in England most of his life.

    Random TV icons – who cares?

    Billy Joel – Flirted with Atheism. But went back to religion, though cynical of organized religion. Also, I love ‘The Stranger’, but is he really a Great American?

    Bertrand Russel – British nobility

    Richard Leakey – Kenyan, lives in and loves Africa.

    Half of this list is outright wrong.


    Damn Caio, you own them.

    Christ, I thought I was a relatively bright guy, but damn.


    Margaret Sanger was a very rabid eugenicist who supported abortion as a solution to the “Negro problem”. She also believed that poor women should be sterilized, especially poor non-white women.


    She also started what became Planned Parenthood.


    So after all this discussion I assume it is safe to say that who ever made this picture actually has no clue as to what they are talking about and it really doesn’t matter.


    It might also be a “joke”.


    “Negro Problem”
    wtf indeed.



    “I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”

    “My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment.”

    “In view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognize, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they quote me for the support of such views.”

    Alec Dalek

    Thomas Edison wasn’t an atheist. He just got someone to be an atheist for him.




    I have no right in questioning someone’s faith, I do, however, have the right to question someone’s intelligence.

    Who ever made this list was a idiot and grotesquely misinformed, and no better than the people who hand out pamphlets saying Harry Potter makes children satanists.

    It looks as if they thought anyone who contributed to the world scientifically ETC had to be an atheist.

    Thus once again, proving once again, idiots exist on all sides of the debates.

    On another thought, why the hell is Lance Armstrong on the list? Next to the obvious fact he’s done nothing particularly great worth remembering in future, he put out or endorsed those “Strength” bracelets which in some shape is a kind of “faith”.


    I’m an atheist, and this “picture” is teh FAIL!

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    Wait so one on that list is no longer a genius because he was an anti semite? Can’t he be both?

    And the other because she was racist? Can’t she be both?

    Not sharing our modern views on things doesn’t negate their other contributions.

    I’d like to see a list of post 1920 heavily religious geniuses.


    Bertrand Russell!? God damn, the man was about as British as you can get. And George Bernard Shaw.. ugh. Stupid evangelical atheists.


    if u want u could always list all the scientists who were christian… newton, da vinci, galileo, maxwell, heisenberg, schrodinger, mendel, linnaeus, fleming…


    also, it appears that einsteins famous equation, e=mc^2 might be wrong,


    Aint Penn or teller Canadian? And Thomas “alba” edison i heard that he was either spanish or someway latin-american(alba is in spanish and means dawn i belive not sure) same with billy joel as i heard. hepburn while she was alive (and young) she was really hot. and yes she was from england. by the way einstein was a religous amn(just a little) but later when the nuklear bomb exploded he become a little or complete atheist not sure.
    but heck ask thier zombies.


    : You’re the first person to use the word ‘Genius’ here. And considering this person seems to be looking for positive atheist role-models to prove atheist worth, than yes.

    A Great Industrialist is not necessarily a Great Person. I certainly would pretend that Ford was part of my group just to score some points. Also, Margaret Sanger was a dickhead who hurt humanity by merely existing, not a genius.

    @acid monkey – no no no no no. Penn and Teller and American. Alba means ‘Scotland’ in Scotish Gaelic, but his middle name was Alva. He was born in Ohio and his parents were of Dutch extraction. Billy Joel was a Jew, born and raised in Long Island (way to propagate stereotypes, Billy). Hepburn was born and died in Connecticut, she just put on a posh New England accent. lern2google


    Arg, typo mania. You get the gist.


    “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.” –Einstein. That doesn’t sound like something an Atheist would say, but I’m crazy that way.

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    Here the context of that quote:
    Now, even though the realms of religion and science in themselves are clearly marked off from each other, nevertheless there exist between the two strong reciprocal relationships and dependencies. Though religion may be that which determines the goal, it has, nevertheless, learned from science, in the broadest sense, what means will contribute to the attainment of the goals it has set up. But science can only be created by those who are thoroughly imbued with the aspiration toward truth and understanding. This source of feeling, however, springs from the sphere of religion. To this there also belongs the faith in the possibility that the regulations valid for the world of existence are rational, that is, comprehensible to reason. I cannot conceive of a genuine scientist without that profound faith. The situation may be expressed by an image: science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
    He’s not really talking about God or Religion in the traditional sense.


    Making advances for genocide doesn’t strike me as something that should be admired. Mengele was an atheist too- I definitely wouldn’t peg him as representational of the philosophy, but that’s what he was. He made some important medical discoveries (usually purely by accident, since he was much more interested in finding out how twins “work” than he was in science).

    Margaret Sanger founded PP as part of her quest to exterminate “undesirables”.


    I know it’s been stated on here somewhere, but just to get this across, Einstein is quoted with saying, “God doesn’t play dice with the universe,” as a response to the theory of quantum physics. He’s also not even fucking American.


    well as I said before is something that I heard. but thanks for the advice. I have a cuestion to this matter. what do you mean by being american the ideology or just the birth place?
    because somtimes its seems that is more important the ideology or am I wrong?


    What ideology?


    Well I always suppoused that north amercians have an idelogy. and that idea of mine was reinfiroced with that image. People from other places having ideas in usa and usa getin the credit for it. Ie Einstein. But i supouse Im wrong… rigth?

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