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Scientology Van
Posted on August 26, 2008 by tiki god
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Name: Adam SelvidgeSite: http://www.myconfinedspace.com
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structure of freemasonry
Posted on August 21, 2008 by tiki godcloseAuthor: tiki god
Name: Adam SelvidgeSite: http://www.myconfinedspace.com
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i, for one, welcome my caucasian overlords
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also, in b4 Evil Illuminati
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Maybe instead of the “religion” tag you should change it to “cults”.
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Freemasonry is not a cult or a religion, it is a fraternity. The oldest one in current existence. I don’t understand why people have such a problem understanding that fact. Its not like they are the fucking scientologists… THEY are a cult.
Comment by Drewlicious — August 21, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
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the ‘Stairway to Corruption”…
Comment by storminator — August 21, 2008 @ 3:21 pm
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Both my father and grandfather were Masons. I never got into it, though.
Comment by wookie_x — August 21, 2008 @ 3:34 pm
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The history of drag.
Comment by Korinthian — August 21, 2008 @ 3:41 pm
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When you’re eight years old, and you build a clubhouse and make up a secret handshake and password and don’t let girls join, it’s kind of cute.
When you’re 19 and do the same thing and call it a frat house, it’s getting to be a little lame.
But when you’re 60 and still doing this shit, it’s really, really retarded.
Comment by Howie Feltersnatch — August 21, 2008 @ 3:51 pm
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To me they’re -all- cults.
Right down to the Mary-Kay clones that rent office space next door.
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And up to the Roman Catholic Church and the Republican Party of Iowa. Everything’s a cult, and I’ve stopped caring. That said, Scientologists are bastards. So are Jehovah’s Witnesses and Evangelical Christians, for that matter.
Comment by brisingre — August 21, 2008 @ 4:36 pm
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Over the last three posts this thread has become *very* edgy. Like not TV edgy but keepin-it-real edgy. Like so fuckin real you got to ask yourself “Why the fuck is everything I experience so fuckin internally consistent yo? this shit real.”
To tell you the truth I am incredibly afraid to post here please take it easy on me guys.
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My ex-roommate joined this organization. He stated “Its not a secret society but a society of secrets.” I said “So you DO spank each other behind closed doors?”
Comment by sutenvulf — August 21, 2008 @ 5:59 pm
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For some reason I keep picturing scenes from the old “Little Rascals” shorts when they had ‘The He-man Woman Haters Club’ and Darla kept trying to join.
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Lol@natedogs 2nd post. I was thinking the exact same thing.
Comment by Exacerbate — August 21, 2008 @ 8:32 pm
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the Masons are a host to the true parasite
notice the blazing eye symbol
that means the Reptilians own the Masons
Comment by EVIL ILLUMINATI — August 22, 2008 @ 1:38 pm
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Gee, and I always suspected the vegan lesbians.
Comment by Goldfinger — August 26, 2008 @ 10:21 am
Nasca Lines
Posted on August 15, 2008 by nyokki
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Nasca Lines, Nasca, Peru, 1964
An aerial view shows the famed Nasca Lines of southern Peru. These images, enormous geoglyphs etched into the desert some 2,000 years ago, are so large they can only be discerned from the sky. Some are more than 1,000 feet (300 meters) long.
http://photography.nationalgeographic.com/photography/wallpaper/nazca-lines-littlehales_pod_image.html
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wow, I didn’t know they had Nascars, 2000 years ago ?!
Comment by GorillaMunch — August 15, 2008 @ 10:10 pm
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yeah, munch… they had crazy tracks though
World History With The Pope
Posted on August 14, 2008 by Namelis1
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You want a world without religion? Look at North Korea or Cuba. Great places to live amirite?
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@Wilford Brimley
Those have nothing to do with atheism though. The wonderful thing about atheism is that not all of us are the same. Unlike Christianity or Jizzlam, a person who does not believe in God doesn’t represent another atheist. Atheism has no affect on ones political views.Comment by Exacerbate — August 14, 2008 @ 2:31 pm
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I think the number of totally messed up countries that strictly follow religion are much more numerous than those few that strictly do not.
Comment by Bicoid — August 14, 2008 @ 2:34 pm
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1) Repost
2) In b4 korinthian
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Uh oh.. I smell an epic religion debate coming coming…
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diabeetus kills children just because he doesn’t believe that Elvis is alive. Whoever thinks lack of belief is not harmful to the world is clueless!
Comment by Korinthian — August 14, 2008 @ 2:48 pm
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Seriously though, if you think morals come from religion, you haven’t thought it through.
Comment by Korinthian — August 14, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
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PRAISE RICHARD DAWKINS!
Comment by Frank McColbert — August 14, 2008 @ 2:49 pm
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“2) In b4 korinthian”
fucking called it
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Caio: Now, that is just rude. Imagine if I called beating you in every argument before we had started. Of course I would be right, but it would just make it sound like I had nothing better to do with my time than sitting around waiting for you.
Comment by Korinthian — August 14, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
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I fucking called it, homes.
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You want a world without religion? Look at North Korea or Cuba. Great places to live amirite?
Yes, nearly as pleasant and freedom-loving as Iran or Saudi Arabia.
Cuba’s got a better healthcare system than the US, and one of the reasons it’s so damned poor is because the displaced racketeers and crime bosses, shoved out of power in 1959, exert disproportionate power over American foreign policy toward Cuba.
Why a bunch of nonagenarians in Florida should matter to US foreign policy so much is hard to understand, unless one remembers their ties to organized crime and money.
As for North Korea — they have a religion; its pope and god is Kim Jong Il.
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Approximately 80% of the population of Sweden is Atheist or Agnostic.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com.....455c_o.jpg
What a horrible horrible place that must be to live!
Comment by wookie_x — August 14, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
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You’ll notice Caio and Korinthian arguing using basic “internet fite!” rules (2.1 edition), Caio favoring the rather nonsensical approach, with Korinthian using his old standby of sticking to the douchiest and most egotistical argumentative style.
The winner: none but those who did it for Mary and John.
Finally: Korinthian actually does have a point with Religion not being the only basis for morality.
Comment by Max — August 14, 2008 @ 6:18 pm
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I find my style of fighting especially effective on the very emotional and agressive. I can tailor it to fit smarter opponents though.
Comment by Korinthian — August 14, 2008 @ 6:38 pm
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@warren:
It’s pope may be Kim Yong-Il but it’s god definitely is Kim Il-Sung, the Eternal President.Comment by Goldfinger — August 14, 2008 @ 7:38 pm
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Ok, guys, i can’t handle another boring religion vs. atheism internet debate. I would probably be interested if anyone, at all, had anything new to say… as in newer than the 1950s. But seriously I’m going to try to think of a way to derail this thread but in the meantime you guys could do me a favour and derail it yourselves while I’m thinking. It would be like a Christmas gift to me in August.
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@Max
no no. not everyone is losing here. I’m winning with every page view
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Damn you tiki and your tricksy financial ways.
If only I could get money from my site: thealmostgreatestpageintheuniverse.com
Comment by Max — August 14, 2008 @ 11:37 pm
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You’re the devil, tiki.
Comment by Goldfinger — August 15, 2008 @ 4:28 am
Property of… Jesus Christ
Posted on August 6, 2008 by Dyna-Mole
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Name: Rusty ShacklefordSite: http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla
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owned
get it? owned? hahahahahaha
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I’d like to see a bill of sale. Let’s hope for Jesus’ sake that this guy’s not a lemon.
Comment by JudgeSabersmith — August 6, 2008 @ 11:27 am
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maybe not owned, but nailed.
Comment by Bicoid — August 6, 2008 @ 11:28 am
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How can he be property of an imaginary idol?
It might as well say “Property of the EC, Easter Bunny”.
Comment by macio — August 6, 2008 @ 11:28 am
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Wow. What a fag.
Comment by Exacerbate — August 6, 2008 @ 11:38 am
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And yet, strangely enough, he still can’t get laid.
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“I gave myself to Jesus… now he never calls.”
Comment by deuce — August 6, 2008 @ 12:06 pm
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“It might as well say “Property of the EC, Easter Bunny”.”
Lol’d.
Easter Cunny.
Comment by Ben1605 — August 6, 2008 @ 12:22 pm
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^^ LoLz@Ben1605! You beat me to it!
Comment by Mithik — August 6, 2008 @ 12:34 pm
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It must be pretty boring being a dead guy’s slave.
Comment by goatsgomoo — August 6, 2008 @ 12:37 pm
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Why you would walk around proudly displaying your delusions like that is beyond me. It is almost as he wants to draw attention to the fact that Jesus wanted you to own slaves.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 1:57 pm
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Hey guys Korinthian posted about religion.
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You know, Caio, I’d really prefer you defending your christ than repeating yourself. Because I really don’t think you’re an atheist.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 2:13 pm
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Why you would walk around proudly displaying your delusions like that is beyond me.
Because that man’s a Jesus freak.
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That’s like the fifth time you’ve called me Christian.
Do you see all these people here? How they don’t talk about religion in every post and stuble review? Most of them are atheists, just not retards.
Just because I think you’re an idiot, and a spammer, and a bore, and obnoxious, and easily trolled, doesn’t mean I disagree with you about fundamental metaphysical points, it just means I have outside interests aside from not believing in something.
But no, it doesn’t really surprise me that your primitive, ignorant two-valued, black-and-white world view refuses to admit any idea more subtle than “WITH US OR AGAINST US” you fucking dumbshit.
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Oh, the teenage hormones take control yet again! You’d be more convincing throwing tantrums about things like this if your only interest was something else than to follow me around the Internet and blotch my cyber ink with your tears.
I must have really hurt your feelings at some point. And that makes me sad.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 3:32 pm
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When I talk about a subtle worldview, korinthian, here’s what I mean:
We share a planet with several billion religious people. And not a single one of those people is going to change their mind about religion because some smug obsessive fucktard talks down to them on the internet.
Now, I can enjoy peacefully coexisting with people who are funny, interesting, friendly, whatever: I don’t really care what they do when they kneel before going to bed at night. Or I can make my life difficult by declaring some bloated culture war on the innernets and attack anyone who doesn’t share my beliefs and ally myself with obnoxious fuckheads like yourself who have nothing to offer as human beings. Now what do you think would be the smart option?
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You talk like a pageant girl wishing for world peace. This is the Internet. Welcome.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 3:39 pm
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I think my least favorite posts to MCS are the atheist/theist ones because it starts these retarded threads where people say absolutely nothing worth reading and the few people who say anything worthwhile are picked on by the religiously insecure douches who want to be given credit for having senses of humor but for the most part FAIL.
Oh, and I agree with Caio.
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@Korinthian
The internet doesn’t have to be the end of human intelligence. People make the choice to communicate poorly and propagate the idea that it’s kewl to be morons. It’s one of my least favorite things about being American… the whole “it’s bad to do well, lame to be smart” thing.
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Oh, man, Korinthian is giving me a lesson on being an internet tough guy. All you aspiring eThugs out there, here is your bible:
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outo: of course it doesn’t have to be the end of manners and intelligence. But before you hug Caio again you should check back on who’s doing the cussing and stalking around this place.
Helping people like Caio to understand that they aren’t as smart as they think is what they hired me for.
If you want a lesson, I’ll be in a religious thread near you. Or you could check out my stumbleupon page, especially the reviews by not-so-bright people I seem to have offended of course.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 4:02 pm
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Hey, I agree with Caio ONCE and you accuse me of touching him? Sloooow down! Caio reminds me of an ex-boyfriend (not the best choice on my part, I know) so I can’t help but play with him but I’m not going to deny when he says something I agree with.
I don’t think you are helping anyone here to understand much of anything about themselves. The sort of work that it takes to get people to change perspective is better done in other environments. If you really are oh so smart, you probably know that.
Making a statement like, “Welcome to the internet” is making excuses for poor behavior on your part and everyone else’s. The way to make a difference in most things is to STOP making excuses and hold to your values.
So much of what I’ve seen you say, the way that you say it (including how you type) is a complete contradiction to much of what you just said to me.
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Let me be perfectly clear, no sarcasm:
I seriously never, ever get tired of the atheist/religious threads. Watching people flail around trying to rationalize their beliefs is just slightly less funny than watching someone run into a glass door. It never gets old. LOL
Maybe this guy is a slave on a Mexican plantation?Comment by reboot — August 6, 2008 @ 4:27 pm
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outo: I have never claimed to be a good guy, and I am pretty sure I have not insinuated it either. I usually welcome people to the Internet when they react as if they just got here, saying things like “why are you rude to me after I displayed a lack of IQ?”.
I mean really, someone had to show him, and I must admit I take some pleasure doing just that.
I don’t mind you saying you agree with anyone, in fact I highly approve of it.
Could you specify where I contradicted myself?
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 4:38 pm
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fuck jesus christ
Comment by storminator — August 6, 2008 @ 4:57 pm
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jahova likes moobs?
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atheism is actually becoming a religion, with blabbering fanatics devoting time they could be spending playing in traffic to spreading their wisdom in order to put themselves forward.
i used to assume i was “an atheist”, but i’ll just go back to the old “i dont know and i dont give a fuck”.Comment by Brushaway — August 6, 2008 @ 6:43 pm
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Brushaway: yes, I agree, just like the lack of belief in flesh-eating telephones is turning into a political campaign. You, sir, are quite clueless.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 6:51 pm
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@Korin
Based on your last blurb, I no longer think you contradicted yourself. I get it now.
I have like 10 paragraphs of thought that I’m just not going to bother typing up because it will be way too serious of a discussion for this site.
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outo:
Welcome to agnosticism: the belief where most don’t care and no one pretends to know the answers.
woo woo.
Comment by Max — August 6, 2008 @ 6:58 pm
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@Max
I’m an atheist. What’s your point?
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oops, saw your name too much in this thread and then stared at my tv as I typed my comment.
That was to be aimed at brushaway.
FIX’D.
Comment by Max — August 6, 2008 @ 11:40 pm
IQ vs Religion importance
Posted on August 3, 2008 by nyokkicloseAuthor: nyokki
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In before atheists and christians alike
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 3, 2008 @ 3:11 am
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In b4 crazy spam only freaks read/participate in
Comment by Pants — August 3, 2008 @ 3:22 am
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there’s a big gap right in the middle
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Republicans Report Much Better Mental Health Than Others
Republicans are significantly more likely than Democrats or independents to rate their mental health as excellent, according to data from the last four November Gallup Health and Healthcare polls. Fifty-eight percent of Republicans report having excellent mental health, compared to 43% of independents and 38% of Democrats. This relationship between party identification and reports of excellent mental health persists even within categories of income, age, gender, church attendance, and education.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102.....thers.aspx
tl;dr Smarter you are, the more crazier you are. I guess there’s a tradeoff in everything.
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Ahh, made up charts.
Love how it tops off at IQ of 110, REAL good qualifier for smarts. But if your gonna go as low as 60, I mean the upper threshold for retardation start at 70. And look at that sample size, I mean there has got to be 40-50 people on that, guy prolly polled a family reunion, or all the people his mom said could be his dad.
Science agrees? Sounds like douchebags making really bad charts do. And seriously douchebag, learn to crop your photos better.
Comment by Nimbo — August 3, 2008 @ 3:38 am
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Diabeetus - The quoted area just says they report THEMSELVES as being in great mental health. After all of the claims made with absolute certainty by most hardcore republicans, is it so surprising they’d claim perfect competence?
I’d say anyone who says they are not of EXCELLENT mental health…is probably better in touch with themselves, and reality, than most of those who claim they are.
Now that I think about it…what zealous right winger goes to something as liberal as a shrink when they’re not batshit crazy? And what batshit crazy right-winger admits being batshit crazy? It’s a vicious circle. I mean…look at Bill O’Reilly.
Comment by TrayShadix — August 3, 2008 @ 4:05 am
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When is diabeetus getting banned for spamming? or for saying words?
Comment by Brushaway — August 3, 2008 @ 6:03 am
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It’s simple. In order to see through the various flavors of religious bullshit, it takes intelligence. This is why religion only infects the unintelligent and/or foolish elements of society. You do find some smart people at church, but they usually have an angle, like it’s the only way they could get laid, or they just want to feel like a huge fish in a tiny puddle.
Comment by AlecDalek — August 3, 2008 @ 7:59 am
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Well, duh. What thinking person would believe in all the self-contradictionary fiction found in the bible? Either they haven’t read the book, or they are pretty dumb. You can be smart and believe, though, even if you probably are not smart enough to recognize fables when you see them.
Comment by Korinthian — August 3, 2008 @ 9:21 am
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(BTW, someone mentioned the fact that the graph only goes up to 110. The same trends can be found up to the very top.)
Comment by Korinthian — August 3, 2008 @ 9:23 am
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It’s not “made-up”, though I know teh Goog is a bit overly complicated for some of us here.
Here’s an example with citations:
http://hypnosis.home.netcom.co.....iosity.htmThere are plenty of sources of data for this stuff. In this case, each point on the scattergram represents the average IQ of a country (as reported in a published, reproducible study). The placement left to right indicates another study where respondents answered questions about the importance of religion in their lives.
Here’s a Pew report showing that poor countries tend to be more religious (except the US…):
http://pewglobal.org/reports/d.....portID=167
Also, that Gallup poll on mental health which was cited above only shows that certain types of people are more likely to be confident in their own mental state. Which proves nothing other than arrogance.
Comment by st_judas — August 3, 2008 @ 11:20 am
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I’m usually the first person to say religious people are total fucktards, but this graph just is fake. As Nimbo said, an IQ of 110 isn’t all that schmart.
Fake graph is fake.
Comment by awfulintentions — August 3, 2008 @ 7:13 pm
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awfulintentions: apparently your ability to read comments is as bad as your intentions.
Comment by Korinthian — August 3, 2008 @ 7:19 pm
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No, Diabeetus is right, Conservatives are much happier with their lives than liberals, in general.
It is usually attributed to the fact that Conservatives are Older, which means fewer stresses. They are Religous, which offers tremendous security (hence its creation), and they are married.
Liberals tend to be young, atheistic, and don’t have equivalent marriage rates. They also tend to be more intellectual than conservatives, and thus better able to see the big picture.
Ignorance can be bliss at times. and let’s not forget the old fact that if a person looked into the face of god, they would be incinerated/killed/go crazy or whatever, based on whatever religion they followed. In a similar manner, being able to comprehend the entirety of creation at once would probably destroy the human psyche.
Comment by Excelsior — August 3, 2008 @ 10:39 pm
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Ahem new people. Read comment from st_judas. Those are NOT MENSA IQ numbers.
Comment by unknown — August 4, 2008 @ 1:48 am
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@AlecDalek: you generalize way too much. you just said religious people cannot be smart unless they are getting laid by going to church. where the fuck do you live?
Religion is merely living and thinking a certain way because you feel it is right and will benefit your life. Sounds alot like atheists too dunnit? some of the atheists in here are so proud to proclaim it and group together ina cult like fashion. So convinced they are right and everyone else is wrong.
People can invent their own religions, and they should because we are creatures of habit. so we should eat, sleep, work and celebrate with ritual fashion and with respect for ourselves and others. that way we can build up a healthy lifestyle and live long and happy.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 4, 2008 @ 1:53 am
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The reason why IQ tests for religious people come up lower is because “Openness of mind for other ideas” is one of the big factors in IQ.
Religious people rarely have open minds. So Science only agrees that religious people are dumber because they make it so based on someone’s belief.
And thats why the IQ test fails so miserably at estimating intelligence.
Comment by Thrella — August 4, 2008 @ 4:41 am
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“The reason why IQ tests for religious people come up lower is because “Openness of mind for other ideas” is one of the big factors in IQ.”
No. It’s not.
This is a cooked graph, as we’ve established. The only real study in IQ/Religion correlation has been dismissed by pretty much all experts, not for it’s conclusions but for it’s methodology. Namely, most IQ administrators simply don’t ask about religion. It was Texas Sharpshooting plain and simple. Besides, one study doesn’t qualify as proof. If you’re intelligent and well-read enough to understand scholarly methodology, you would know that.
Ask any psychologist the main problem with IQ tests: they are culturally specific to the point that they exclude pretty much 75% of any population. First of all, pattern recognition is 99% culturally, so that’s out. Things like maths and geometry are skills and generally require training or an actual effort to learn of some kind: if math was merely a natural extension of intelligence, then the first Greek math genius would have discovered every mathematical principle, which is simply not the case.
Essentially, because IQ tests measure culturally conditioned and somewhat guided by the non-scientific value system of academia (specifically the portion of academia which could be described as one subsection of psychology theorists), the STANDARDIZED test you receive in Japan, or Germany, or Bulgaria, is going to be vastly different from the one you receive in North America. Standardization, and results (bell curve, remember) is very insular, with Japanese data having no real comparison against American data.
This is basically why they call psychology a soft science.
Since Atheists tend to come from certain backgrounds (urban, suburban, upper-middle to upper class), whereas fundamentalists tend to come from another (namely, rural and isolated), any real statistical study (and there have been none) wouldn’t be comparing these people based on intelligence, but rather on how a (surprise) urban educated wealthy class plays its value system off on vastly different people with different circumstances. Who do you think is gonna win?
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Also, typos, fuck you, figure them out yourselves.
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Another fun fact about psychology being a soft science: Before lobotomies were made illegal pretty much everywhere on earth, the most generous survey of the practise reported that they worked under 40% of the time and resulted in fatalities just under 15% of the time. The study then concluded that lobotomies were a successful cure for nonspecified.
Can you imagine what medicine would be like if medical researchers considered that successful? Even if there were a survey (I repeat there’s not), psychologists don’t feel the need to conform to any academic or ethical standards. Take everything they say with a grain of salt.
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Dyna-mole: You have no clue what atheists are like, do you? Or what atheism means. Look it up, try again. Thanks.
Comment by Korinthian — August 4, 2008 @ 6:18 am
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Ladies and Gentlemen: Alec vs. Dyna-mole vs. Korinthian. Should you feel entertained or full of pity?
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But I’ll venture a guess on the loser: Find Korinthian’s stumble upon profile. He has spent thousands upon thousands of hours finding atheist users and leaving infantile ‘ur a poo-head’ comments on their articles. If you look at the timestamps you will realize that he often spends 5-6 hours a day doing this.
“some of the atheists in here are so proud to proclaim it and group together ina cult like fashion. So convinced they are right and everyone else is wrong.”
That pretty much sounds like Dyna knows what atheists are like.
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Poor Caio feels ignored.
Comment by Korinthian — August 4, 2008 @ 7:00 am
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Let me rephrase that: he finds religious people and leaves comments on their user page:
http://korinthian.stumbleupon.com/
http://www.stumbleupon.com/url.....eupon.com/Obsessive much? You spend more time preaching against religion than the pope for it. I’m sure even Benedictus has an outside hobby, man.
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I gotta say that when I submitted this pic, I didn’t think it was a “real” study. I just thought it was a funny pic that showed what most atheists believed about religious people (myself not included in that belief). I thought it said more about atheists than it did about the IQ of religious people.
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What do Atheists know? i don’t know, probably a lot. but do they know more about life after death than religious people? no. cuz you can’t. here’s a scientific rationale: you cannot disprove the existence God. and until you do, Atheism is no more scientific than handling snakes in church.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 5, 2008 @ 3:12 am
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p.s. Dyna-Mole wins and pees in their butts.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 5, 2008 @ 3:13 am
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“What do Atheists know? i don’t know, probably a lot. but do they know more about life after death than religious people? no. cuz you can’t.”
i created an account here just so i could login and post this:
Dyna-Mole, you’re fucking stupid.
Comment by j0e — August 5, 2008 @ 4:07 am
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j0e, what makes you say that? wait, tell me what happens after you die. make me a believer in nothing.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 5, 2008 @ 4:15 am
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according to common sense, reason, and science, you’re dead forever. if you have any proof to the contrary, pls post pics.
Comment by j0e — August 5, 2008 @ 4:50 am
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ok atheist crusader, God is merely the representation of everything mysterious and unexplainable. He or She or It is the sum of all we don’t know. thousands and thousands of years ago, before we were even homo sapiens, we buried our dead with tools and clothes, to guide them in the afterlife. try to use science to explain our anscestors’ motives.
science diligently attempts to weed out the false and mythical elements of our understanding. 90% of new information goes out the window eventually. but still, our science has limits because it is confined to the scope of our limited understanding. now for me to say that throughout the vast and amazing universe, there is no existence or entity that is familiar with me or cares about what humanity, or even set in motion the physical universe, is simply not scientific. cuz i don’t fucking know for sure, and you don’t either.
faith can make certain people really happy. which is a good enough reason in this cruel and beautiful world to justify it. it really sucks when atheists come along and proclaim truth as boldy as any christian would, when you’re drawing from anecdotal experience. it makes me wanna feel sorry for you.summed up, you must disprove the existence of God before it’s accepted as scientific knowledge. that’s how scientific method works. so don’t call me retarded, you dick. many scientists are atheist and if those endorsements makes you feel better about your own understanding, then good. but don’t shit on the religious because they do the same thing as you, and follow others points of view.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 6, 2008 @ 12:16 am
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“you must disprove the existence of God before it’s accepted as scientific knowledge. that’s how scientific method works. so don’t call me retarded, you dick”
You were doing pretty good up to that point, but you’re retarded and you don’t know how the scientific method works. Look up null hypothesis. Also look up Russell’s Teapot.Comment by reboot — August 6, 2008 @ 12:25 am
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i have an invisible dragon in my garage. DISPROVE IT!
http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htmComment by j0e — August 6, 2008 @ 12:38 am
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j0e: yeah, invisible dragon is something obtuse someone made up to prove a point. man’s belief in the supernatural is a phenomenon that predates our species!
@reboot: if i’m wrong, point out the holes in my logic. instead of telling me to read something, why don’t you explain it? since i’m retarded and all… if we’re just gonna tell each other to read shit, why don’t you read Why God Won’t Go Away: Brain Science and the Biology of Belief by Andrew Newberg M.D. It’s all secular n’ shit, my atheist friend, and it’ll explain the genetic rammifications of eons and eons of belief in the supernatural.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 6, 2008 @ 2:36 am
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Dyna-Mole: yeah, god is something obtuse someone made up to prove a point.
your next sentence boggles my mind: man (our species) had a belief that predated the species that had the belief? wow…
anyway you still haven’t proven life after death so i’m afraid you lost the argument. thanks for playing though and I hope you had a swell time.
Comment by j0e — August 6, 2008 @ 3:48 am
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Not involving myself in this round of debate. Just wanna ask: does the phrase common sense even mean anything anymore? I mean, originally it mean ideas and behaviours that were………. common. Or at the very least transparent to the common man.
Now it’s become a way for angsty teenagers who hold opinions which aren’t held by the majority (and thus not common).
Here’s a little guide for you:
Not running into a busy highway = common sense.
Holding an opinion which may be right and reasonable but is not held by the majority = not common sense.Also, I think I have found a way to make Korinthian shut up. Yay for me.
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something a 5 year old can figure out on their own = common sense
for example a 5 year old can observe that dead things don’t have a translucent version that floats up into the sky to hang out with baby jesus. therefore it’s common sense.
the whole religion argument is so stupid. in literally all of recorded history there has never been the slightest evidence of god. not one piece of physical evidence. yet most of the world believes in it. humanity has not evolved very far from our predecessors.
Comment by j0e — August 6, 2008 @ 5:49 am
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@Caio: Yeah, common sense isn’t that common, as someone famously said. But to think that it is a majority decision shows that you lack it. Thanks for contributing.
@Dyna: Everyone has got their own definition of God that renders some or all parts of the bible useless, this is a good way to get away from stuff that your arguments are too weak to defend.
You seem to think that our ancestors’ superstition has anymore meaning than trying to explain the unknown or the imaginary friend of a child for that matter, but where are your grounds for that? There are plenty of reasons why religion would be beneficial as an evolutionary train, I’m sure even you can think of a couple if you try hard enough.
And Dyna, is there any other area of discussion where you hold something unplausible as true until it has been disproven? I might just have a bridge I want to sell you.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 6:13 am
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evolutionary trait*
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 6:13 am
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I’m sorry, are you saying that the majority of people in the world are non-religious? Maybe in secular central Europe (which is pretty high and mighty now considering they, once upon a time, gave us Christian imperialism and all), but the rest of the earth is, whether you like it or not, religious.
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Caio: go argue with the dictionary, I haven’t got the time to educate you on words and phrases that you fail to grasp.
Also, everyone knows that the majority of the world is religious, so thanks again. But next time you might as well wait for someone to call Captain Obvious before you charge in, all dressed up in spandex.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 7:02 am
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j0e: awareness of the self, our consciousness, the observer inside us is something common sense will tell you exists, but neurologists still don’t know what part of the brain it comes from.
@Korinthian: i don’t lose sleep over it buddy. i’m just saying that “i’m not sure” is a more reasonable answer. i was saying that i can’t deny the existence of God or a force unknown that guides our lives, not that He is the One True God and all should obey His Holy Word the Bible. that is exactly what many atheists on this site wanna put in your mouth, if you talk about God.
NO ONE KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS AT OUR DEATHS! ABSENCE OF PROOF IS NOT PROOF OF ABSENCE!
Not that I am one, but Christianity is very radical, simply because of the principle of unconditional forgiveness - even forgiving your enemies. I think atheists accomplish nothing but talking a whole lotta shit down their nose at their fellow man
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 6, 2008 @ 2:59 pm
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We all got hunches we follow. and that’s all i gotta say.
Comment by Dyna-Mole — August 6, 2008 @ 3:00 pm
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You know nothing with 100% certainty, that doesn’t mean “NO ONE KNOWS IF LEPRECHAUNS STEAL OUR SOCKS!” is more reasonable than assuming they don’t exist.
So basically you are just being silly. Giving certain myths and fairy-tailes a free pass makes little sense. Time to grow up and all that.
Comment by Korinthian — August 6, 2008 @ 3:17 pm
Atheism - Good Enough For These Idiots
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I almost was offended.
Comment by Pants — July 31, 2008 @ 6:27 am
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Mark Twain - Cynical of organized religion. But religious and in no way an atheist. Believed in God. Proud of his presbyterian upbringing.
Einstein - Had a spiritual leaning. Not an atheist in the strict Dawkinite sense, but he didn’t believe in a human-like god. Guess what? Neither do many tribal religions in Canada.
Ben Franklin - Very very sceptical of organized religion and Christianity. None the less, never stopped speaking of reverence for his creator.
“I never doubted, for instance, the existence of the Deity; that He made the world, and governed it by His providence; that the most acceptable service of God was the doing good to man; that our souls are immortal; and that all crime will be punished, and virtue rewarded, either here or hereafter.”
Darwin - Originally intended to be a pastor, got his degree in divinity. FLIRTED WITH *SOFT* ATHEISM after the death of his daughter and a string of other personal tragedies.
“never been an Atheist in the sense of denying the existence of a God… an Agnostic would be a more correct description of my state of mind.”
I’ve had atheists tell me that that kind of attitude was “worse than Christians” “pussy” “cowardly” “idiotic”, etc etc. Most modern Atheist dislike Darwin’s sort of agnosticism.
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Lincoln… I am looking for evidence that he was an atheist, but I’m having a very, very hard time finding any. I’m not an expert on the man, but someone is going to have to provide me solid proof that contradicts this:
“In regard to this great book (the bible), I have but to say, it is the best gift God has given to man. All the good the Saviour gave to the world was communicated through this book. But for it we could not know right from wrong. All things most desirable for man’s welfare, here and hereafter, are to be found portrayed in it.”
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Richard Dawkins: Invented the word “meme”. General asshole. Whoop-de-fucking-doo.
Hemingway: An hero to atheists everywhere
Hey, three out of eight ain’t bad.
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BY THE FUCKING WAY I’LL HAVE YOU KNOW ATHEISM IS *FACT BASED*
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You got trapped.
And you did a bunch of work during too.
*clap*
Only one clap for you, I’m afraid.
Comment by Pants — July 31, 2008 @ 6:49 am
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Any religion or belief in things like god, the easter bunny, and such is tragic and dangerous. Let reason rule!
Comment by Supernaut — July 31, 2008 @ 7:30 am
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Supemaut, I’ve yet to see a hard atheist say something reasonable.
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They forgot my favorites: Robert Green Ingersoll and Mother Theresa.
Comment by Gary Scenario — July 31, 2008 @ 7:51 am
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this pict fails.
Beleive me, I love God, I just can’t stand his fan clubs sometimes.
Comment by TGGeko — July 31, 2008 @ 8:25 am
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Bizarrely enough, Mother Teresa would have been more appropriate than half these guys.
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That’s not Dawkins in the picture, its Carl Sagan, an atheist.
Einstein, an atheist who hated the fact that religious types used his quotes to justify their god.
Jefferson was a deist.
The common thread is their dislike of organized religion
Comment by tormato — July 31, 2008 @ 8:31 am
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Atheism is just as bad as religion, you have no proof for the non-existence of God, just as religious people have no proof for the existence of God.
Agnosticism ftw.
Comment by Ben1605 — July 31, 2008 @ 8:34 am
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@Caio
soft atheist? hard atheist? why are you being penises into the situation?
Atheist : there is now god
Soft AtheistAgnostic : there might not be a god
Hard AtheistAtheist : there definately no god. -
Einstein on Spirituality and Science:
“Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.”“The finest emotion of which we are capable is the mystic emotion. Herein lies the germ of all art and all true science. Anyone to whom this feeling is alien, who is no longer capable of wonderment and lives in a state of fear is a dead man. To know that what is impenetrable for us really exists and manifests itself as the highest wisdom and the most radiant beauty, whose gross forms alone are intelligible to our poor faculties - this knowledge, this feeling … that is the core of the true religious sentiment. In this sense, and in this sense alone, I rank myself among profoundly religious men.”
“I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts; the rest are details.”
“My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.”
“Every one who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe-a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must fe
Blow it up.
Comment by diabeetus — August 26, 2008 @ 8:05 pm
Yellow van.
It’s like Fox News foretold the future.
Comment by Billy Manic — August 26, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
That van has two things going against it, problem #1 it’s a Scientology Van, and problem #2 it’s a ford.
Comment by GrimGrimes — August 26, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
Report it as a suspicious vehicle and then post the phone number to various sex sites.
Comment by Marrock — August 26, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
“Hey, there’s no candy in here!”
Comment by Kidrythm — August 26, 2008 @ 9:11 pm
OH MOFO… it’s soooo Molotov Cocktail time!!!
Comment by Elepski — August 26, 2008 @ 9:36 pm
It’s times like this i wish I could shell things with artillary fire.
Comment by Seth_Dracovitch — August 26, 2008 @ 9:53 pm
BOOM!
Comment by awfulintentions — August 27, 2008 @ 1:57 am
That is some outstanding parrallel parking.
Also, why do you want to blow this up? Why not start first with the militant Mosque down the street? Oh, that’s right, that would be hate crime, but to kill Scientologist is perfectly acceptable, sorry my bad.
Comment by gor — August 27, 2008 @ 5:26 am
@ gor
nobody said anything about killing scientologists, just blowing up/burning down their van. just a little civil disobediance and malicious violence against property. nothing to see here, move along
Comment by DasMaus — August 27, 2008 @ 11:40 am
Wow. Xenu’s ’spaceship’ sure looks a lot like a ford van.
Comment by koopa — August 27, 2008 @ 11:43 am
Your right Das, I was incorrect, no one said they wanted to intentionally kill scientologist, but my original meaning stands. Why not start with the militant Mosque? Could it be they will fight back, because I’ve never heard of scientologist fighting someone just because they don’t believe in their stupid sci-fi religion.
Comment by gor — August 27, 2008 @ 1:27 pm
Ford vehicles must be much more high tech than I thought. If the spaceship people drive them, that’s high praise.
Comment by storminator — August 27, 2008 @ 2:08 pm
“I’ve never heard of scientologist fighting someone just because they don’t believe in their stupid sci-fi religion”
Then you haven’t been paying attention. Operation Snow White was the largest infiltration of the US government ever. They’ve been legally threatened a number of websites over trivial matters (which is where a lot of the current hate comes from). And there are several unproven allegations that they killed dissents.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....l_behavior
Comment by reboot — August 27, 2008 @ 7:58 pm
I’m not saying these weirdoes are great people, reboot, but unproven allegations and 30 year old conspiracies is little reason to reek violence on a group when there are more worthly religious nutbags that, without question, deserve it.
Oh well, fuck’em, you gotta start somewhere I guess.
Comment by gor — August 28, 2008 @ 5:51 am