Why are a few of the counties in Ct & Ri colored black?

Comment by phantasm — September 5, 2008 @ 8:46 pm

Because they don’t bother voting as it’s just a formality and the president is decided by some guy in a sweater.

Comment by AlecDalek — September 5, 2008 @ 8:56 pm

No, it’s some guy in a shack on a backwater planet. He lives alone with a cat and is totally nuts.

……..read the Hitchhikers’ series, philistines. :p

Comment by Tyger42 — September 5, 2008 @ 9:35 pm

At the very least this is a tad inaccurate. It shows my county as red and we’re one of the few counties in WV that consistently votes democratic…ummm well, as long as the democrat isn’t black. We’re not that evolved yet.

Comment by nyokki — September 5, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

Where is Alaska? Why are we always left out of these things? And stop putting us sw of Texas!

Comment by Frznagn — September 5, 2008 @ 11:05 pm

No Hawaii either. I have a feeling they are blue and purple.We need a Purple Party President. Screw the Red and Blue people. See I said people!

Comment by Puulaahi — September 5, 2008 @ 11:24 pm

I got it from here: http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/civilwar.asp
It is indeed accurate, sorry about your state being what it is.

Comment by kiltedforbes — September 6, 2008 @ 12:17 am

I wonder, what does this map look like to the colorblind?

Comment by Lord Cocksworth — September 6, 2008 @ 1:23 am

This map shows voting percentage of the presidental election, not party affliation.

WV consistently votes mostlydemocrat in all it’s offices, except of president, which it is than known as a ’swing state’. Maryland, my home, is firmly entrenched in the Democrat party and our high taxes are a great indicator of what happens in a single party state.

Comment by gor — September 6, 2008 @ 2:24 am

i’m 100% neither.

Comment by dookie_booty — September 6, 2008 @ 3:06 am

Jesus Christ you can literally see the bible belt in bright red.

Comment by Caio — September 6, 2008 @ 9:13 am

The Loyal Order of Water Buffaloes Lodge No. 26?

More bacon for the one who guesses the reference!

Comment by the3g_ipwn — September 5, 2008 @ 5:53 pm

That’d be from the Flintstones.

Though I must say, these look like people I’d hang out with.

Comment by AbNo — September 5, 2008 @ 6:46 pm

What does the technoviking have to say about this?

Comment by Marrock — September 5, 2008 @ 6:50 pm

Hey man it’s chilly in Alaska.

Comment by Caio — September 5, 2008 @ 10:00 pm

http://www.myconfinedspace.com.....g-fagotry/

Comment by Phyreblade — September 5, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

these are the type of voters we should be paying more attention to.

Comment by dookie_booty — September 6, 2008 @ 3:10 am

Proof that TITS or GTFO defies even politics.

Comment by the3g_ipwn — September 4, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

Something about drilling?

Comment by jadechimera — September 4, 2008 @ 10:02 pm

she wants american drilling. in her ass.

Comment by tiki god — September 4, 2008 @ 10:10 pm

Her teleprompter went out halfway through her speech, and she still did an amazing job. Obama without a script is pure comedy.

McCain and Obama are both douchebags.

If only Colin Powell’s wife would let him run for office. Make him world Tzar.

Comment by Nimbo — September 4, 2008 @ 10:11 pm

@Tiki

I want ME drilling in her ass, or where ever else, for that matter.

And you would hit dat too!

Comment by the3g_ipwn — September 4, 2008 @ 10:21 pm

@Nimbo:

If people want a black man and a woman in office,
Powell/Rice now that’s a ticket!

Who ever wins the election, I hope they keep Condi on. Condi don’t take no shit! Bad perm and all!

Comment by the3g_ipwn — September 4, 2008 @ 10:25 pm

Condi is about as bad as it gets….
If you missed her being called a liar to her face by the senate…

Comment by gx5000 — September 4, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

Condi tied herself quite close to 43’s line after becoming Secretary of State. Too many people have a lot of sand in their vaginas over Bush Jr. Personaly, after the patriot act, I dont care what else he did, he needed to be put down.

A zombie washington/lincoln ticket would loose to powell/whoever. But his wife says no.

Bitch

Comment by Nimbo — September 4, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

“As for that VP talk all the time, I’ll tell you, I still can’t answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?” -Sarah Palin

Best quote of the election!ROFL

Comment by Puulaahi — September 4, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

You know those movies where the mom teaches the daughter how to please her boyfriend…

Comment by Theo11 — September 4, 2008 @ 10:51 pm

I know those movies.
And I’ll take “The Mom looks like Sarah Palin FTW!”

Comment by the3g_ipwn — September 4, 2008 @ 10:57 pm

@nimbo

that’s the first i’ve heard about that. I’m nearly 100% sure that you’re wrong about that though, cause her speech was 100% canned right wing bullshit that was 95% utter bullshit that nearly every media team tore apart after she gave her presentation.

she sucks and was full of shit. How can someone lie outright and expect the American people not to realize?

Comment by tiki god — September 4, 2008 @ 11:38 pm

@Tiki
The American people get lied to all the time, and not just by politicians.

Most of the time, people are just going to believe what they want to believe. That’s why you see a speech like this an immediately start calling her a lying whore or whatever, whereas somebody else sees it and thinks she did a great job.

Comment by FlyingMantisShrimp — September 4, 2008 @ 11:50 pm

@flyingmantisshrimp stop lying to tiki

Comment by asdf — September 5, 2008 @ 12:35 am

@asdf
I TOLD HIM THAT IF HE PLANTED THE BEANS CORRECTLY, THE STALK WOULD GROW TO EPIC PROPORTIONS. IT’S NOT MY FAULT TIKI SUCKS WITH GARDENING.

Comment by FlyingMantisShrimp — September 5, 2008 @ 1:19 am

@Nimbo

You mean like when Obama talks candidly to small groups of people in open parks as he tours the country? Who’s holding the teleprompter, the squirrels?

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — September 5, 2008 @ 4:45 am

Paul must die. He has discovered obama’s teleprompter secret.

Comment by 8870949 — September 5, 2008 @ 6:31 am

Creationist = automatic fail.

And I would love to see how an anti-abortionist would react if she was raped and became pregnant.

Comment by Foggy — September 5, 2008 @ 6:45 am

“american, cunt, lier, McCain, palin, patriotic, piece of shit, Politics, shithead, slut, traitor, usa, whore, working mother”

Gotta love the tags there, diabeetus. Getting enough fiber in your diet. X-D

Comment by AbNo — September 5, 2008 @ 7:05 am

“Hi! My name’s Sarah. I don’t really know what Mr. McCain wants me to do, but what I DO know is that I hate women having the right to decide what goes on inside their own bodies; I know I want stone-age religious mythology force-fed to kids in schools; I know I think it’s wrong to teach kids about sex so that even more kids will end up like my own darling daughter who’s such a teenage-mother role model for the rest of America’s youth and I know that that ‘global warming’ thing the tree-huggers talk about is just a fantasy caused by having pieces of broken-off ice-shelf cooling down their brains as it floats south to melt.

So…thank God I’m cute! Cos then you’ll spend the election campaign coming up with stuff like ‘VPILF’ and telling yourselves I’m just a harmless soccer mum at heart; until one day you wake up with me in office. And then you can kiss your rights, your environment and your fucking asses goodbye.”

Comment by Svartmetall — September 5, 2008 @ 7:19 am

i luvz her much.

Comment by Kidrythm — September 5, 2008 @ 9:25 am

ALL POLITICIANS AND NEWS REPORTERS ARE PUPPETS

THEY DONT WRITE THE SHIT THEY SAY

THEY SIMPLY REPEAT WORDS WRITTEN DOWN BY THEIR HANDLERS

Comment by natedog — September 5, 2008 @ 10:03 am

Little too subtle there Svartmetall

Comment by Caio — September 5, 2008 @ 10:20 am

@Paul
Paul, I talk candidly to small groups of people in parks without a teleprompter, can you write me in on your ballot?

Comment by spindoctur — September 5, 2008 @ 11:17 am

Paul, I expose myself frequently to small groups of people in parks without a teleprompter or underwear. Can you write me in on your ballot?

Comment by garbledxmission — September 5, 2008 @ 11:38 am

i lived in Anchorage, AK for 20 years. Wasilla, where she was mayor, was a po-dunk place and a 50+ mile commute to Anchorage. she got $27 MILLION for WASILLA? She is an ass kicker. that’s amazing. and when they say she supported the “bridge to nowhere’ - that bridge went to Wasilla- and cut 30+ miles off of the commute. we ALWAYS wanted a bridge there…

Comment by storminator — September 5, 2008 @ 9:28 pm

Have you actually watched all in the family?

Comment by Caio — September 4, 2008 @ 10:14 am

Yes. I even watched The Jeffersons. Occasionally Maude. Some Batman reruns too.

Comment by cap811 — September 4, 2008 @ 10:37 am

So what’s the joke here? One of the guys is white and the other one is black? Is that the joke?

Because if that’s the joke I’m gonna go George Jefferson on your what I assume is a cracker ass, god damnit.

Comment by Caio — September 4, 2008 @ 11:10 am

??

You should consider taking more Vitamin C and less crystal meth.

Comment by cap811 — September 4, 2008 @ 11:24 am

Obama can only dream of being as cool as Sammy.

Comment by Marrock — September 4, 2008 @ 11:32 am

This is a man who can give an entire speech about the wars America is fighting, and never use the word “victory” except when he’s talking about his own campaign. But when the cloud of rhetoric has passed … when the roar of the crowd fades away … when the stadium lights go out, and those Styrofoam Greek columns are hauled back to some studio lot - what exactly is our opponent’s plan?

- Alaska Governor and Vice-Presidential Candidate Sarah Palin

Comment by diabeetus — September 4, 2008 @ 3:22 pm

Don’t get me started on Sarah Palin’s speech… she’s nothing but a pretty attack-dog. Along with all the other Republicans, all they’ve been offering this year is about 10% “change” that doesn’t qualify as change by even the most liberal standards, and about 90% attacks on Obama. They’re going to shoot themselves in the foot with all this overt negativity.

Comment by deuce — September 4, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

one big fucking facepalm.

Rudi was the high water mark

Comment by natedog — September 3, 2008 @ 10:52 pm

i love plateforms.

Comment by dub_1211 — September 3, 2008 @ 10:55 pm

Well it’s not like the GOP has a leg to stand on. So what else would they talk about?

Comment by Puulaahi — September 3, 2008 @ 11:05 pm

oye, Rudi was worse then this Palin chick. Hur hur hur i’m america’s mayor, hur hur hur

Comment by tiki god — September 3, 2008 @ 11:06 pm

We need to have John McCain as the next President of the United States. Obama seems like a smart guy and I agree with a lot of his policies, but do you actually think he’ll be able to solve anything of the problems that we’re facing? Do you think that anybody could?
The only solution is to KEEP MAKING IT WORSE. Keep destroying our liberties. Keep selling out our education system. Keep crippling our economy. Stay the course until it all burns to the ground.
Then we can rebuild from scratch.

Comment by reboot — September 3, 2008 @ 11:25 pm

@reboot
That’s pretty much the plot of Ayn Rand’s “Atlas Shrugged”.

Comment by nyokki — September 3, 2008 @ 11:29 pm

@reboot

I’ll bring the smores!

Comment by Puulaahi — September 3, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

Some part of me agrees with reboot. Hell, I know the ghost of Thomas Jefferson agrees with him. I say it’s not too late to at least TRY to fix things.

A revolution may be inevitable, but shouldn’t we fight to fix things until the very end?

Comment by MikeBabaguh — September 3, 2008 @ 11:30 pm

Hey Tiki, why don’t you go and join the Obama campaign. You’re doing enough mudslinging as it is.

Comment by diabeetus — September 3, 2008 @ 11:31 pm

I thought she did exactly what a VP is expected to do during the conventions. Bash the other guys.

That said, I’m still on the fence. They both say lots of nice things that make me feel good about them, and bad about the other guy.

I’m seriously scared of the national health care plans. At one moment they promise tax breaks, but then say they’re going to provide health care? With the money we’re supposedly not going to be paying in taxes?

The energy crisis especially has me on edge. I don’t agree with long-term drilling, but I’d rather be independent of foreign oil sooner than it takes to develop the millions of jobs promised in regards to new energy and fuel sources (damnit, algae is the way to go!)

I agree on a lot of things for both sides regarding our actions in the middle east. Pulling out to early in Iraq is definitely bad, but if we have actual intelligence showing al-queda building back up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that is a serious concern. Iran is a scary scary scary serious concern. North Korea is also rebuilding there nuclear facilities, I understand.

Damnit. I’m voting for Mickey Mouse this year.

Comment by RSIxidor — September 4, 2008 @ 12:00 am

I wish Teddy Roosevelt was up for election again.

Comment by thelotuseater725 — September 4, 2008 @ 12:06 am

Fuck it i’ll vote for him anyways.

Comment by thelotuseater725 — September 4, 2008 @ 12:07 am

“9/10 mudslinging”
Oh and just what are the Dems doing?

I was just going to vote against Obama, but after watching both conventions I’ve changed my mind and am voting FOR McCain/Palin

Comment by DasMaus — September 4, 2008 @ 12:15 am

I’m at least waiting till the end of the damn week to say that.

Comment by RSIxidor — September 4, 2008 @ 12:20 am

I am voting for Andie Valentino.

Comment by Puulaahi — September 4, 2008 @ 12:22 am

I was very impressed by the parade of straw men that the GOP put together for tonight.

Comment by jadechimera — September 4, 2008 @ 12:26 am

i’m with reboot

i say we start by making it illegal for any politicians to serve more than one term in any major office

Comment by natedog — September 4, 2008 @ 12:32 am

@DasMaus
are you fucking kidding me?

not once did I hear the dems say untruthful things. Painful, sure, but not out and out lies.

Also, we now have the VPILF quoted saying “I don’t know what a VP does” and Rudi (aka, america’s mayor) saying that he doesn’t know what a “present” vote is.

And did they really compare the liberals to big brother? Really? I don’t think they really knew what that phrase meant if they were serious.

Comment by tiki god — September 4, 2008 @ 12:36 am

First off, for a bit of perspective, I’m not attached to any part, I simply prefer policies that seem reasonable to me.
Second, and more directly relevant, I’ve seen far more, and far STUPIDER mud slinging from the right, just being out and about, without actively looking for anything political.
While I’m at it, I’d also like to say that the VP is probably going to wind up being the most important thing that gets overlooked this election. For my money, both candidates would kick the bucket once in office. Obama’d be assassinated by a racist, and McCain would get done in by stress and age. Either way, their VP takes over.

Comment by Seraph — September 4, 2008 @ 1:12 am

Oh, and Reboot, I’m starting to think you’ve got the right idea.

Comment by Seraph — September 4, 2008 @ 1:12 am

tiki your head is so far up your ass it amazes me. the point of the democratic and republican national conventions are simply to rally the troops. how do they do that? by slinging mud at one another. obama’s a great speaker so his mud slinging seems a lot more refined and intelligent. either way, you’re no better than a console fanboy that likes to get on an xbox 360 site and splooge over how much better the ps3 is because it has better graphics and so on. we get that you want to have obama’s babies, get over it and just shut the fuck up.

Comment by wizardoffahz — September 4, 2008 @ 1:45 am

Oh man…It’s not a good idea to insult the owner of the website.

tiki, with all due respect the obama stuff is pretty lame. I mean if you support him that is fucking great but don’t be so dogmatic in your political beliefs, it isn’t good for you or the country. I mean the democrats are noble in that they want to help out those who are disadvantaged but the sad truth is that they are every bit as corrupt as the republicans. But i think you are smart enough to realize that.

Comment by thelotuseater725 — September 4, 2008 @ 2:20 am

Ok. I’ll join the fray, I suppose. I think that Obama sucks less than McCain, which is not saying much. He’s nobody’s damned savior. He won’t be able to do a single damn thing. He’ll be an incompetent, inneffective president. However, he won’t ACTIVELY TRY to screw us over, whileas McCain will. They are both lying, cheating scum, but McCain is more evil. On the other hand, I almost have to agree with Reboot. A revolution is inevitable, but it will come too late. People are too damned lazy. We’ve got reason enough for a revolution right now, but people won’t rebel because they aren’t capable of thinking straight for long enough. Oh well.

Actually, fuck it. I’m just going to get out of the USA the first chance I get. I’m not going down with this one.

Comment by brisingre — September 4, 2008 @ 2:21 am

Even if we did have a revolution we wouldn’t be able to adequately arm ourselves if obama gets his gun control laws passed. And even then there are probably 5 shadow organizations making sure it doesn’t happen.

Comment by thelotuseater725 — September 4, 2008 @ 2:30 am

@thelotuseater725

5 Shadow organizations!!!! And you are worried about Obama!? Can you even list 3?lol

Comment by Puulaahi — September 4, 2008 @ 3:06 am

@Gun Toting Republitards….

…In the event of a revolution…

What the fuck are you going to do with your hand guns and automatic weapons (if they were legal) against a sophisticated fighting force with large scale explosives, unmanned aircraft, and non-human trigger fingers? Not a fucking thing, that’s what. Your desire to arm yourselves to the teeth is senseless and will only get you killed. For self defense all you really need is a hand gun, a shotgon, and a high powered rifle. Anything other than that is just retarded.

Comment by twotone — September 4, 2008 @ 4:33 am

My favorite part was the “USA” chants. Like somehow they’re real America. Y’know, the crowd of mostly white older rural Americans. I should have tried that when I was in school.

“Young Paul, 2 + 2 does not equal 5.”
“USA, bitch! Now give me an A!”
“But…”
“USA! USA! USA! USA!”

Oh, and here is a great vid of Republicans on a hot-mic commercial break ripping into their ‘amazing’ VP pick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrG8w4bb3kg

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — September 4, 2008 @ 6:20 am

@twotone

First of all, shoot stupid-asses like you. (Congratulations on setting the tone for this response in your own wording)

Second of all would be to know that loyalty to country and loyalty to government are two separate things.

In the Oath of Enlistment I’d taken a few years back, I never swore to uphold or defend the government.

There’s a reason why “all enemies, foreign and domestic” is part of that oath.

Then again, a stuck-up bigot like yourself wouldn’t understand something like that.

(Yes, I get a little cranky after I’ve been up all night)

Comment by AbNo — September 4, 2008 @ 6:33 am

@AbNo

The funny point is, if you actually read what twotone wrote, you would realize that you just admitted that you need high powered weaponry to take on your fellow Americans.

Pretty ineffective with handguns and rifles, huh?

That’s okay, those of us who are actually half way decent with normal weaponry will defend the likes of you when the revolution really comes.

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — September 4, 2008 @ 7:10 am

@Abno:

nothing twotone said was about loyalty to country vs. loyalty to gov’t.

If some “Militia” or other club of gun nuts tries to take on the ARMY, they would die. Simple as that.

How is bigotry involved? now you’re just making up insults with no backing at all.

Comment by Max — September 4, 2008 @ 8:14 am

I’m not saying that there should be a revolution, as in march against the US Army while singing Yankee Doodle. That would be suicide. I’m saying that when the time comes, there won’t be an Army to march against. Our society is at an unstable equilibrium, direct intervention is not necessary for it to collapse. Some monkey-wenching might be fun though

Comment by reboot — September 4, 2008 @ 10:37 am

If a revolution comes I will be using my Fijian War Club whilst inhaling tons of alcohol to make me superhuman.

Comment by Puulaahi — September 4, 2008 @ 12:47 pm

To my two detractors…

Actually, from what I saw on TT’s message, it appeared he was talking about a large-scale violent coup of the government.

My point was, an overthrow came about, there’s a good chance the military would help. There’s a mistrust of the fed miles wide in the DoD’s ranks, and as I said before the flag is not The Hill.

And this Libertarian would consider “Gun Toting Republitards” to be bigotry, typically defined as hatred against another that makes life choices different than someone else’s.

Comment by AbNo — September 4, 2008 @ 4:50 pm

Secondary: Large-scale explosives? Not terribly useful on your own turf, unless you like rebuilding a lot.

Remember, the non-opinionated public gets war-weary fast. It’ll happen even faster if they see other citizens being attacked with A-10s and MOABs.

Comment by AbNo — September 4, 2008 @ 5:10 pm

Impeach, hang, repeat.

Comment by Ejones — September 4, 2008 @ 8:53 pm

It appears that the relatively low tech approach of the Taliban and Iraqi insurgents has worked well for them and it would only be more true in our own country, where the soldiers would not want to fire on and/or destroy it’s own citizenry.

Comment by nyokki — September 4, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

*applaud* This is the kind of comedy I come here to see! YES!!!

Comment by j_bryon — September 3, 2008 @ 2:41 pm

As far as having a woman as President goes, she is a far sight better than Hillary IMHO…

So I fail to see the humor.

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 4:06 pm

Is it my imagination of does McCain always look like he’s trying to swallow a banana sideways?

Comment by Marrock — September 3, 2008 @ 4:39 pm

“or does”…

I used to be able to type, see what drinking does to you?

Comment by Marrock — September 3, 2008 @ 4:40 pm

I lul’d fuckin hard.

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 5:20 pm

“As far as having a woman as President goes, she is a far sight better than Hillary IMHO…

“So I fail to see the humor.”

Well, Bilbo, either you failing to see the humour stems from your own stupidity and low-level reading abilities, or you are genuinely butthurt really hard.

Either way Bilbo’s comment is the cherry on top of this delicious cake of a macro.

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 5:26 pm

jesus caio.

really?

how much longer are you going to think that is clever?

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

This is my impression of Bilbo seeing this image and discovering that not all Americans hold the exact same 3rd-grade reading-level, opinions and world view as himself: :*(

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 5:38 pm

Apparently longer than anyone else.

lol.

“GO BILBO!”

“BILBO ‘08″

BIIIIIILBOOOOOO!

I am the Bilbo.

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

bwahahahahahhahahahaha!

He’s really Lemmiwinks, the gerbil King!

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 5:46 pm

Oh Dildo Douchebaggins, you are tons o’ fun.

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

His nickname is Bilbo because on the forums we were making fun of him and he really lost his centre and started saying he was wicca and he knew some wicca spells and we wouldn’t laugh so hard at him when we woke up with boils and warts.

And he started spelling everything with extra e’s. Like ‘boiles and wartes’. It was really weird. Guy really lost his centre.

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 5:51 pm

Oh sweet baby jeebus no way! Which forum? I’ve gotta see this! Nothing like Olde Tyme Spells and Magicks! Roflmao!

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 5:56 pm

Next he’ll be saying he graduated the head of his class from Hogwarts or some other gayness of biblical proportions.

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 5:58 pm

ugh, man children giving high fives over children’s fiction flames…

it is so full of

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 6:24 pm

Well Kidrythm, child health experts try to tell us that the kids should be kids when young, or they will experience periods of immaturity later on in life,

and when these kids hit 40 they might finally grow out of it and act mature, lose their virginity, etc

Comment by KommissarKonrad — September 3, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

Oh look, tards of a feather flocking together. I hope the two of you live happily ever after….in Hobbiton or wherever you choose to settle down.

Kommissar, has it happened to you yet? Remember, your hand, mom, sister and family pets don’t count.

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 6:37 pm

quite a few of the members here will be excited to know that they will finally see the parts of a woman covered by underwear…

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 6:38 pm

garble made another children’s fiction flame…

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 6:39 pm

I lol’d.

Still waiting for the “I’m sure no one will believe me…” joke on this one.

Kidrythm, as far as HRC goes, HRC has more brains in her pinky than the entire Mrs. Palin. And I really don’t like HRC.

Comment by bytehead — September 3, 2008 @ 8:07 pm

I am sure you are life long friends with both ladies therefor highly qualified to make that judgement in a post on the interwebz.

Comment by Kidrythm — September 3, 2008 @ 10:19 pm

I think you’re missing the joke, Biblo: Your wicca beliefs sound as childish to us and Harry Potter does to you.

No offence but wicca isn’t even a real religion.

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 10:53 pm

Hmm, dirty, bastardly, and underhanded.

But really feckin’ funny.

Comment by AbNo — September 4, 2008 @ 6:41 am

Ad hominem.

Comment by Exacerbate — September 2, 2008 @ 9:39 pm

It was all ruined by the misspelling in the end of the chart…

Comment by Thrella — September 2, 2008 @ 9:43 pm

Ok, let’s skip over the ad hominem attacks and point out that Palin is a creationist who thinks Global Warming is a conspiracy.

I think the choice of Palin was the best thing to happen in this election. Not only does it look like pandering, but it will thoroughly alienate moderate Americans who live in swing states. Swing states have virtually 0 support for creationism, and fuck even Bush is moderate enough to give lip service to Global Warming.

I think I’m going to sell President Obama some flowers, because he’s won this thing.

Comment by Caio — September 2, 2008 @ 9:48 pm

*sell = send

Comment by Caio — September 2, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

What exactly is a galdiator?

Comment by Goldfinger — September 2, 2008 @ 10:08 pm

Man even i stop trolling after i leave work… jesus.

Comment by Thrella — September 2, 2008 @ 10:15 pm

“Ad hominem.”
Don’t try and use smart words, it only makes you look worse. If someone makes crazy decisions in their personal life, it raises legitimate questions about whether they are fit to government.

Comment by reboot — September 2, 2008 @ 10:20 pm

While I am not in support of Palin… this is a stupid thing to attack her on. The woman has given birth to a LITTER of children and made the choice to have her baby where she wanted it. Her water breaking where there was only a slight leak is not something to worry about if one has the option to get into the hospital that’s part of the “birth plan”.

It’s the sexist and arbitrary attacks on Palin for things specific to her being a woman that are going to make women (even those who don’t agree with) rally for her. I’ve already seen it on some of the pro-Clinton forums. Women who are disgusted by Palin’s beliefs are speaking up for her on subjects such as this.

Comment by outofocus — September 2, 2008 @ 10:22 pm

Your savior, Obama is a creationist too. There’s no way in hell an atheist could ever be president. Not right now anyway. People are still too attached to their imaginary friends to vote for the immoral, baby-eating atheists.

Comment by Exacerbate — September 2, 2008 @ 10:28 pm

1) There is a difference between religious and creationist. For example Pope John Paul II was a famous supporter of the theory of evolution.

2) Obama, to my knowledge and Google abilities, does not support teaching creationism in school.

Comment by Caio — September 2, 2008 @ 10:33 pm

Correction: Obama believes in evolution, and doesn’t want religious doctrine taught in schools:

http://blogs.discovermagazine......evolution/

—-

Not every religious person is a crazy fucking fundamentalist like Palin.

Comment by Caio — September 2, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

@Exacerbate
Not necessarily. It is only an Ad Hominem attack if it is unrelated to the argument or factual claim at hand.

From my perspective however, her actions in this scenario would still certainly call her priorities (as well as common sense) into question. Getting medical care, if not for herself, but for the babys’ sake, should have been her first priority.

Why it wasn’t, I don’t know, but I’d consider that a question I’d really like to have an answer for before I’d vote her into office as a VP…

@Thrella
Werd. Phail chart is phail.

Comment by Phyreblade — September 2, 2008 @ 10:44 pm

Geeze… I shoulda known this was going to turn into a political $h1t$t0rm… in under 10 posts… never mind me folks, carry on…

Comment by Phyreblade — September 2, 2008 @ 10:47 pm

@outofocus
I agree. I think the choice of Palin will win the election for McCain. He only needs to bring in a few percent of the former Clinton supporters to tip the scales, plus it shores up his core constituency of trailer trash.

Comment by reboot — September 2, 2008 @ 10:53 pm

Exasberate, I just realized something: for you to not understand the difference between ‘religious’ and ‘creationist’ you must be like 12-years-old.

Man, I wish either that parents would be more responsible about monitoring their children on the internet, or else the mods would get more serious about underage b&s.

Comment by Caio — September 2, 2008 @ 10:56 pm

i want a vagina of a gladiator!

Comment by TrikYodz — September 2, 2008 @ 11:31 pm

@reboot
are you out of your fucking mind? last I checked, the GOP has a 30% approval rating, the president has a 26% approval rating, and McCain can’t remember how many homes he lives in, had only met his VP choice ONCE before giving it to her, can’t remember where we’re currently at work at and with, and is really just an all around fuck up.

if he wins this election then it’s been rigged and there will be trouble in the streets. which is where I’m from, cause I’m hardcore like that.

Comment by tiki god — September 2, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

Oh noes!

Asked by the Anchorage Daily News whether she believed in evolution, Palin declined to answer, but said that “I don’t think there should be a prohibition against debate if it comes up in class.”

“I’m not going to pretend I know how all this came to be,” she said.

Comment by gudis — September 3, 2008 @ 12:12 am

um. i’m pretty sure you’re not supposed to fly when you’re further along than the second trimester. actually being IN labor? yeah.

Comment by silverflux — September 3, 2008 @ 12:44 am

@ Tiki God,

I counter your argument and claim that the Democratic Party lead Congress has a lower approval rating than both the President and the republican party!

Comment by njch412 — September 3, 2008 @ 1:05 am

@silverflux

Flying during third trimester is okay if the pregnancy is going well.
http://www.pregnancy-info.net/.....lying.html

@Phyreblade
The baby was not in any danger. It’s not like the water breaks and suddenly the baby can’t breath. As long as labor hasn’t really started (as in, contractions are pretty far apart) and the baby hasn’t begun it’s journey outward, waiting a little while is okay. Edumicate yourself before you speak.

Comment by outofocus — September 3, 2008 @ 1:34 am

yea those democratic controlled house rebate checks really boosted the economy…to the tune of a weaker dollar. what would obama do for the state of this country other than turn us more towards socialism anyways? his tax proposals won’t do anything but hurt the value of the dollar even more than it has been damaged under bush. like it or not, obama would be the worst possible thing that could happen to this country at this point of time.

Comment by wizardoffahz — September 3, 2008 @ 1:48 am

Alright time for a mom to chime in. 4-6 hours after the waters break you run the risk of infection, meaning the unborn child could get very very sick, unless you have doctor intervention to prevent it. 9 hours after the waters break, the loss of fluid (even with a “tiny rip”) will cause the weight of the baby to press down on the cervix, which could cause nerve damage to the unborn child. At this point unless you’re in a hospital being monitored, you shouldn’t be sitting upright, let alone flying on a plane, doing speeches and ignoring hospitals. 12 hours without a contraction or corrective surgery (meaning they close the leak) a C section is required. My point? The woman is a retard who cares more about her career then her kids.. And after the crap with her daughter getting preggers at 17.. I can already tell the kind of role model shes going to make! Burn in your own fire McKain.

Comment by KyrusRose — September 3, 2008 @ 3:29 am

how does a mom control her kid getting pregnant at 17? i don’t see how a choice her kid made (or mistake, we don’t know) directly reflects upon palin.

kyrus
if you’re kid ended up dealing crack to all the other kids at school and sleeping around with everyone, would it be fair for everyone to call you a terrible parent even though you had no idea they were doing that and didn’t condone her actions? same goes with palin so back off. likewise, how are we sure there was no doctor intervention immediately? i would like to see your credentials to back that up, not just the mother aspect or wikipedia

Comment by wizardoffahz — September 3, 2008 @ 3:39 am

Just out of curiosity, Wizard, how will Obama’s tax reforms socialize the country and weaken the dollar. I’ve been known to dabble a bit in economics and I’d like to hear your perspective on this.

Comment by Caio — September 3, 2008 @ 3:50 am

wizardoffahz 12 hours in labor are my credentials, can you do better? And if my girl was selling crack and got herself pregnant, it would be MY fault. As a parent I have a responsibility to TEACH my child right from wrong and set examples. If I can’t read the signs that shes doing drugs, or ignore her questions about sex and pregnancy, I’m not a very good parent and I would expect to be attacked for any actions she takes. Maybe not on such a wide scale, but by her teachers, her friends and my co-workers. She is my responsibility, and I’m not going to cop out and say “I didn’t know she was doing it”. Palin’s girl is 17! What 17 year old doesn’t mess around? Are republicans immune to human nature now??

If you weren’t aware, Palin is against sex ed, and there is the problem. She didn’t give her daughter the tools, so the blame falls on her shoulders. So yes, it would be fair to call me a terrible parent in that case, because I was there from day one.. no.. before day 1. If she doesn’t have the time to raise her kids right, she doesn’t need to be fixing the country’s problems. No.. she isn’t able to fix the country’s problems.

Comment by KyrusRose — September 3, 2008 @ 4:13 am

…After wrapping up the speech, Palin and her husband consulted with her physician about possibly flying home on an earlier flight. After being granted permission from her doctor, she and her husband proceeded with the trek home.

At that point, Palin was only having minor contractions and was not showing signs of active labor, Sharon Leighow, the governor’s spokeswoman, said on Monday.

After the baby was born, Palin told her staff members that her experiences from four previous pregnancies made her comfortable with the signs of active labor. She felt that neither she nor her baby were in any danger, and so she flew home as scheduled.

Comment by gudis — September 3, 2008 @ 4:14 am

…After wrapping up the speech, Palin and her husband consulted with her physician about possibly flying home on an earlier flight. After being granted permission from her doctor, she and her husband proceeded with the trek home.

Her physician? Over the phone? Pfft.. that’s reliable.

Comment by KyrusRose — September 3, 2008 @ 4:18 am

I think I see some more straws over there, grasp, grasp, you’ve almost got it!

Comment by gudis — September 3, 2008 @ 5:19 am

Late joining the argument, but…

@reboot

Polls show that less women are supporting McCain because of Palin, and that was before the pregnant 17 year old debacle.

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — September 3, 2008 @ 6:59 am

The only straws being grasped are those belonging to Palin and her spokesperson.

These were blatantly the actions of a self absorbed, opportunistic, cutthroat person that puts her career and ambitions above anything else.

All the statements that gudis posted were exactly that–statements. Also known as “spin”, “P.R.”, or as I like to call it, “bullshit”. Did her ob-gyn actually make a public statement? Probably not, as any doctor with an ounce of credibility would not publically admit to giving that kind of medical advice over the phone to a woman with a fetus with known, pre-existing health problems. The pressure changes associated with flying, (and it was two flights remember, not even one), could have fully ruptured the placenta. We won’t even get into the risks of infection, nerve damage, oxygen deprivation, etc., that could have occurred from waiting so long to seek medical care.

Any way you look at it, this was a selfish and irresponsible decision from a person with a long history of similar behavior. Hmmm… kind of like her running mate…..sounds like a match made in heaven! You know, that heaven she wants taught in schools.

P.S. You all know she was probably secretly hoping that if she waited long enough, the baby would die. Can’t have her picture perfect political family marred by a handicapped child. Or a pregnant teen for that matter….ooops, too late.

Comment by garbledxmission — September 3, 2008 @ 10:28 am

You all know she was probably secretly hoping that if she waited long enough, the baby would die.

The same thing crossed my mind as well, that she was trying to have an indirect abortion, but I thought I was being overly cynical. Good to hear that other people are suspecting the same thing.

Comment by reboot — September 3, 2008 @ 11:06 am

I had that same thought. wondered if maybe she wanted something to happen. As for the doc. You ask anyone who has EVER had a child and they will tell you that as soon as you’re water breaks or you feel contractions (even the false ones) you go straight to the hospital for an exam.. not call one on the phone!

Did I read that right?

She got permission to tak