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    Insanely Rational

    Yes, because everyone knows the owners of those Mexican restaurants have spent the last 1200 years screaming for the death of all those who aren’t devout Mexican-food eaters.

    (And notice how 99% of all the posts after this will commit the “No True Scotsman” fallacy.)

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    dieAntagonista

    You mean like most people who belonged to the major religions have done? In America you are not a criminal simply for belonging to a religion which was or is being used by others to commit crimes. Bombing an abortion clinic doesn’t make any other Christian guilty except for the ones who did the bombing. Shooting 30 people and then yourself doesn’t make anyone else a criminal but the shooter. The crusades are not a valid argument for denying an American Christian the right to build a church if he legally bought the property like any other American. If you want laws that discriminate against someone because of their beliefs, regardless of the crimes they didn’t commit, I suggest you move to Iran.

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    conan776

    One of the most annoying things about being Catholic is being yelled at by Protestants because we don’t read the Holy Bible on one hand, while being yelled at by Atheists who for some odd reason think we do.

    You’re really stretching here, imo.

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    Puulaahi

    Well the Mexicans were there first until the kick ass American Army(If you could even call them that because the number of troops that purged this land of Mexican governing were tiny) kicked their asses out of there. Same goes for New Mexico, California and Arizona.

    But damn, I love Mexican Food. Chile Verde and Carnitas Super Burritos are the foods of ze gods. Nachos, Guacamole, Tamales, Quesadillas and that Ceviche thing. Although maybe these restaurants are an elaborate plan to make America fat. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!! They succeeded.

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    Drunkin

    Your knowledge of history is fail. First it was a variety of primitive natives who learned how to live off the land. Than it was Spain/France (mainly Spain) who forcefully converted and/or killed thousands of natives across what is today Texas and Mexico. Spain fucked up by allowing a bunch of Anglo settlers move to Texas. Mexico won their first independence then had some asshole named Santa Anna conscript thousands of Mayans to march across Mexico and attack San Antonio and he rofl stomped those in that little mud mission on that map. Of course this is all after Santa Anna decided that Tejanos and the Anglo settlers did not have the best interests in Mexico in mind so he taxed the shit out of them and even arrested leaders for no reason other than his own paranoia. Even executing hundreds of settlers for no other reason than defending their families.

    In the end a drunken womanizing fighter and right hand man of Andy Jackson who moved to Texas years before found Santa Anna hiding in some bushes. Ended that war with the border at it’s current place. Every president has a statue in Mexico except that guy, since all he did was rape the people and the land for his own gain.

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    Puulaahi

    I generalized and said nothing about “interests.” Besides you are talkng about Mexico. I was talking about America. Way to Fail drunkin. Have another brew.

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    nyoki

    Scare tactics never change, nor the people who use them.

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    Lamb

    5secondfilms.com/watch/just_a_game

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    NotMe

    I wish we had more Mexican restaurant here.
    You guys should send a few north.

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    bstaples

    Don’t worry OP. They’re starting from Arizona, they’ll get to you soon enough.

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    natedog

    do muslims even have restaurants?

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    Puulaahi

    Yes. Ever had Falafel?

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    Bushman

    The root of the issue is this: The Muslim religion teaches that “All Infidels must die”. That means YOU if you are not a Muslim.

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    dieAntagonista

    And the bible teaches that murdering or raping you is ok if you practice almost anything that is common in the first world. Like having sex without being married or wearing clothes that are made of two different fabrics. That means YOU if you live in a first world country.

    The root of this issue is that not every Christian is a murderous rapist just because his bible preaches such. Just like not every Muslim wants to kill non Muslims.

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    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    No its doesn’t at all.

    That’s just completely made up.

    Whereas the Koran does teach that because you don’t have a pecker you’re basically not human.

    I really don’t know why women ever defend Islam. Its the scapegoat reasoning for millions of crimes against women.

    The bible (and I’m not religious of course) does not preach physical violence and while it is another religious text its the lesser of two evils in this case.

    Plus religious reasoning aside I think everyone knows by now (if they didn’t already) this is more about not allowing some idiots to celebrate the religion their friends killed in the name of right next to where they committed a massive terrorist act and have been gloating about every since.

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    dieAntagonista

    Hm there might be a few lines here and there in the bible that advocate murder, rape and torture. That could be how they were able to justify the crusades. I’ve got a bible right here and it tells me I should kill you for not being religious but it’s in German so here’s what I found in English:


    Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.” (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

    They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

    Is that enough preaching of physical violence in the bible or do you want me to go on?

    Anyway I wasn’t defending Islam, I was defending the American constitution, ’cause I think the constitution is hip. Religious tolerance is important, so is separation of church and state and presumption of innocence. Man I love American law. 😀

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    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca

    Deuteronomy: Hebrew bible.

    Leviticus: Hebrew bible.

    2 Chronicles: Hebrew bible.

    Those aren’t the books most Christians in America follow.

    www.biblesforamerica.org/

    I don’t really so much want you to go on as start, please.
    I guess I should have been specific and said that since we’re dealing with Americans here we should use the bible the Christians in America use or at least the ones used most. Not least or not at all.

    America’s constitution vs. 85% of its population and growing. Laws get rewritten a lot more than religious texts do.

    From what I’ve read if there are portions of the bible followed by Americans that advocate violence nobody is following them aside from a few people protesting.
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    Millions of screaming and cheering Muslims after September 11th celebrating their victory in the name of their fucked up religion.

    If they wanted to build there they should have begged. Trying to strong arm your way in is insulting. Though it would work in Canada.

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    GrandAdmiralThrawn

    DieA: Keeping in mind that Judge means just what is says: Judge, as in a court system & the rule of law. That is not really any different from today.

    Yes, Homosexuality is a sin according to the Old Testament. Whores to were to be killed, but Jesus told us we should be forgiving, and try to teach them the error of their ways. Something about let he who is blamless cast the first stone.

    – OF course God is blameless, and any man on man action is going to land you in Hell, unless you find Jesus.

    Yes: Mediums and fortunetellers are conversing with the Devil himself, or lessor demons. Since this is a big sin, it leads to being killed.

    As to the last one, I’m going to have to look it up 😛

    And there is of course, no separation of Church and State in American Law. Just religious tolerance within the framework of Judeo-Christian Values.

    would hae been in sooner, but the damn site keeps breaking

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    dieAntagonista

    I didn’t say there was separation of church and state in American law, just that I think it’s important. You do have the 1st Amendment though, that’s pretty fundamental right there. No man made law is perfect, but the American constitution is a good start and I’m very fond of it.

    So the Muslims just need a new koran were they remove (almost) all the barbaric passages like they did with the old testament and you’re cool with them? That’s fine by me, I wish they did that. But I know that you’re aware what the old testament says about editing any part of the bible, so maybe keep that in mind too. 😉

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    deuce

    Lol, people dissing Islam while defending Christianity… like they don’t basically come from the same source.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

    It’s all basically still the spooky superstitions of a bunch of long-dead cavemen.

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    conan776

    Willful ignorance is a helluva drug.

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    RageDoll

    not to mention the Japanese with their restaurants (A day of infamy! A day of infamy for bombing Pearl Harbor, we will never forget!!), the Germans and their Octoberfests (Inglorious Nazis!), the white people owned stored (I don’t know what their religions were [christians, probably], but I will never forget the Oklahoma bombing of the federal building. Can someone look up on wikipedia how many kids died in the daycare center there… Oh forget it, almost all of them), and how about the Greeks (I may have relatives that got feed to lions a thousand years ago)? God help us all if the Blacks start getting uppity about us hanging them from trees, our only defense is while we sat idly by doing that (not consenting to the violent acts of a few is no excuse, see a million Muslums getting painted by a fraction of their population), we can throw in their faces that their enemy tribes sold them to the dutch for rum and they need to raze the Dutch, not americans.

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