oh man, I’m going to watch this as much as I did the original one!

aka, not at all. why remake crap tv shows that no one watched to begin with?

Comment by tiki god — July 26, 2008 @ 9:14 pm

Tiki, I agree. Crap. The unfortunate thing is that a lot of people did watch it. That is why the remake. I sure as heck was not one of them and will not be in the future. Contrary to what some will say I *do* have some standards.

Comment by gmscooter — August 4, 2008 @ 1:10 pm

HOWEVER

You cannot deny that this show was and will be a collection of great breasts.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — August 4, 2008 @ 1:16 pm

Why not a remake of good shows like A-Team and MacGuyver?

Comment by reboot — August 4, 2008 @ 1:18 pm

The first sucked huge dong(I still watched it. Tiffani Amber-Thiessen my heart goes out to thee <3)

Not gonna watch this one. The first was primarily on when I came home from school and in that day we had but 2 channels of television.

Comment by zipfer — August 4, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

What the fuck.

Comment by diabeetus — August 4, 2008 @ 1:35 pm

probably gonna suck… there is nothing new in this world? is it part of some alien agenda? they want us to stop watching television, and read more books and exercise? I like to be fat and stupid, and will fight for my right to keep it this way…wait… no I will not fight, I’m too lazy…

Comment by hellb0y666 — August 4, 2008 @ 1:41 pm

this is what the writer’s strike did to us. we now get LAME shows because all the good writers found other gigs. that’s why we lost SMITH, and LIFE, and several other shows. now they have to rapidly deploy CRAP for us to watch.

i’ll never watch 90120…

Comment by storminator — August 4, 2008 @ 2:20 pm

@Hellb0y666
It’s not the aliens. It’s the agenda of the Illuminati to bore us into killing ourselves so the Illuminati will have smaller groups of people to control. Once these groups are controlled, the Illuminati and Freemasons will put the remaining people into concentration camps where most people will most likely be gassed. Just ask EVIL ILLUMINATI, he’ll tell you all about it.

Comment by Exacerbate — August 4, 2008 @ 2:38 pm

If the show is going to suck half as bad as the photoshop-job they did in the picture…it’s going to be really bad.

Comment by Starkiller — August 4, 2008 @ 3:20 pm

NOOOoooooooooo

Comment by outofocus — August 4, 2008 @ 4:52 pm

Yep, I admit, I admit, I watched it every Saturday. But it was, hmmm, XX century.

I was 15. People used to make many stupid things, when there’re 15. Michael Jackson’s Thriller par exemple.

OK, Brenda was hot, but what I sait, it was XX century.

Yes, this is my first comment on MCS, and I think it’s right thread

OK, Brenda was hot. But she was born in 1971.

Comment by asymon — August 4, 2008 @ 11:03 pm

Nice to see Token breaking out of the animation genre

Comment by smitha22 — August 5, 2008 @ 4:23 am

@smitha22

ROFLMFAO- you beat me to the punch!

Comment by storminator — August 5, 2008 @ 3:19 pm

Damn those shadows! The photographer needs a new lighting guy if he’s gonna get the goods!

Comment by RSIxidor — July 25, 2008 @ 9:48 am

rats, late by a few min..

Was going to post, “my kingdom for better lighting”

Otherwise will post om nom nom nom…
and admit to being clueless as to which show she is on. not that it matters, unless it is “Castrate All Men”

Comment by mld — July 25, 2008 @ 10:02 am

I used to miss the Screen Savers and hated G4 for making TechTV all ADHD… and then they made a few staffing changes.

Now I just hate G4 for playing COPS so frequently. And the japanese game shows are starting to wear thin.

Comment by Kandorr — July 25, 2008 @ 10:07 am

1. right click; save image as…
2. open in photoshop
3. adjust brightness/contrast levels
4. ????
5. PROFIT

Comment by natedog — July 25, 2008 @ 11:19 am

UGH she is such a moron and it makes me so angry i do not watch Attack of the Show anymore. I hated Sarah Lane but i would rather her come back than Olivia.

Comment by Kero — July 25, 2008 @ 12:31 pm

I agree that the ‘witty banter’ is more like ‘annoying-interruption-fest’.

So unlike X-Play, where the writing is actually rather good. I’d surrender the Live aspect of AotS to be able to skip the Kevin-Olivia blabbery.

Comment by Kandorr — July 25, 2008 @ 1:27 pm

i like layla kayligh better
http://www.myconfinedspace.com.....more-32718
but when i just wanna chill for the day
i sit down watch AOTS and just surrender.

Comment by TrikYodz — July 25, 2008 @ 1:49 pm

Seductive pose is seductive, and…

and…

*drool*

Comment by MikeBabaguh — July 25, 2008 @ 3:21 pm

i would be down there all day

Comment by Dyna-Mole — July 25, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

never heard of her.

Comment by storminator — July 26, 2008 @ 1:57 am

few days ago i learned that in some language “cola” means “glue”. in estonian “olivia munn” would mean “olivia’s dick” …

Comment by urjuhh — July 26, 2008 @ 3:13 am

alittle “exposure” tweeking in photoshop works wonders. apparently not wearing undees.

Comment by SKILLERWHALE — July 26, 2008 @ 5:44 pm

Why does every console have to “pwn” the others. Wii pwns all! No, PS3 pwns all! No, 360 pwns all! They all have fun games, they all have neat little things you can do with them. I’ve tried to think of some reason for this mentality, but all I’ve come up with is the tired old reasoning that it’s all a bunch of kids trying to justify their choice because their mothers would only buy them one.

Comment by AgZed — July 25, 2008 @ 5:17 am

Watch Zero Punctuation - Console round up.

He illustrated a good point -
Every console has to pwn the other consoles because your mom buys you only one for a generation, and if you pick the wrong one, you will die defending it.

So in my case - PC’s FTW! Lol consoles.

Anyway, Lol rumble, that is so last generation and useless. Get to the future, the wii rip-off tilty action is where it’s at!

Comment by Namelis1 — July 25, 2008 @ 5:22 am

Heh, I was actually thinking of Yahtzee when I wrote that. I was thinking of tacking on a “fortunately I’m white enough to afford all three”, but I figured I’d settle for a subtle rip-off rather than be all blatant about it.

Comment by AgZed — July 25, 2008 @ 5:41 am

eh-kind of dated post. I was really psyched for the trophy system. Luckily i downloaded the patch at 530am in the morning and had no problems before they pulled it down at noon that day and didn’t re-release it for a week.

My statement was just to let the 360 die-hard fans know that they now are on an equal playing field w/ the PS3 b/c of trophies vs. achievements. But also, by pure hardware power, the PS3 pwns the other two systems and lets not forget Blu-Ray!!

PC’s can suck my balls, yeah, I really want to spend more money on HW every six months just so I can run my game on the minimal settings and have horrible slow-down and frame-rate issues. OH and not too mention the 20 games that come out per year on a PC - what a slection!!

And yes, I am white enough and rich enough to own all three current gen consoles with over 100 games total for all three. I also own a vagina that I get to fuck anytime I want. And vagina pwn’s everything else…

Comment by token2k6 — July 25, 2008 @ 6:31 am

Your right, its just to bad that PC does every genre better but sports better(racing games included) . We can all thank pirating for the lack of titels. In the end, my computer has a Blu-Ray drive and better graphics than any of the “next gen” consoles so enjoy shit FPS’s children.

Comment by Monkey770 — July 25, 2008 @ 8:34 am

I don’t own a single console, but…

Are you taking pride in finally having the features another system has had for a long time? Why are you bragging? My head hurts…

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — July 25, 2008 @ 8:35 am

I upgraded my PC last in Dec 06, and it still plays all the new games half decent. No need ‘to update hardware every 6 months’.

I also own a 360. We know the trophies are a rip of achievements (like the 360’s new update is a rip of Miis), but ultimately the trophy system will never be as well received as the achievement system. “Wow I have 2 gold 13 silver and 49 bronze trophies!” “Well I have 3 gold and 2 silver because I played Eragon so I’m better than you because I have more gold”. Well, even though we all see that as an ‘e-penis’ childish argument (not necessarily with Eragon - most film games will do), it will happen on forums everywhere. The 360 achievement system has introduced websites such as 360voice, which I frequent and adore. I like stats, so we’ll see if Sony offers up a feed for people to use like MS did.

Token, please visit reality. Yes the PS3 has the better hardware (is the Cell that much better than 3 CPUs - not really) but what the PS3 lacks is the game support of developers and exclusive titles. Games on the PS3 - especially large and complex ones - just take too long to make. With that timescale, and the PS3 vs. other consoles user base, it makes little sense for developers to align themselves with one console.

As for graphics, well I believe GTA4 summed it up. I played both the PS3 and the 360 version, and saw no difference whatsoever. Ah, and then there’s the Devil May Cry fiasco. “I have a PS3, lets wait 27 minutes for installation” “I have a 360, lets play right away”.

The next (fall/autumn) update on the 360 will allow users to d/l games to their HDDs, speeding up load times (you still have to have the disc in to prove you own the game), as well as a more adaptive and intuitive interface.

I would say I’m aligned to the 360. Though as much as I’d like to invest in the other systems, at the current time the 360 offers the best package that I want. The Wii doesn’t offer enough solid games, and personally I don’t like the Wii’s controllers. The PS3 has had it’s problems but just doesn’t offer me the right sort of games or the experience I want.

Signed,

A gamerscore whore.

Comment by borandi — July 25, 2008 @ 8:49 am

I’m not bragging, simply stating that I can do everything and more with my PC. PS3 is a great product and so is the 360. I love the online community and games that are only available on PC. So what’s the big deal here? Sony just put rumble back into their console? And if we want to talk pricey…… $50 is a little pricy just for a rumble feature.

Comment by Monkey770 — July 25, 2008 @ 8:59 am

PC too much money
XBOX is great
Halo is the best

@ token2k6

“And yes, I am white enough and rich enough to own all three current gen consoles with over 100 games total for all three. I also own a vagina that I get to fuck anytime I want. And vagina pwn’s everything else…”

That is racist and sexist. White’s are probably the poorest people since they all live off fiat currency. Whenever the rest of the world decides they will just stop giving white people allowance. No one owns anything, the earth owns us, so you’re probably not an entitled property owner on your wife’s/girlfriend’s vagina. As a matter of fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Chinese buy your wifes vagina during the mortage recession. You won’t have anything then, no more fiat money to play games all day, no more home to store your “vagina”, and no one in your life. All you’ve left is being “white” and now you’re pwned.

Comment by EVIL ILLUMINATI — July 25, 2008 @ 9:33 am

i think people can have their oppinion about different systemz, even if their mother didnt buy it for them, cuz i bought myself a 360. I own the 360, cuz i feel it’s the best. i feel it has the most to offer. i was thinking about the Wii then i found out a lot of the technology in the Wii is the same as the Original xbox… which i also own, so why would i get a “next generation” system that wasnt any better then the last generation? and the PS3, that thing is amazing, technically speaking. everything in it is top notch, but they have nothing to offer, and even if they do end up getting a few good things, i personally think that it’s too late for them. It has been out for far too long to now become the best. so, im not shooting down other peoples systems, cuz yes they are fun, but i think the 360 is the best choice….. not to mention, when you see commercials for video games that are hosted on several consoles…. look in the corner they will tell you what console the game clip is from(itz normally a 360) just throwing that out there.

but the PC
it is, by far, the strongest console but…. i have a friend who has a gaming pc(which is really expensive, might i add) and to play his gamez he uses a game controller…. a 360 game controller…360!

Comment by infusino92 — July 25, 2008 @ 10:59 am

I dont want rumble. I didnt miss it at all. The original sixaxis controllers were ungodly awesome in my opinion. They weighed like 4 ounces and were just rumble free

Comment by Tardex — July 25, 2008 @ 11:07 am

is it me, or does the controller lean ever so slightly to the left?

Comment by natedog — July 25, 2008 @ 11:21 am

@Natedog:
*tilting head awkwardly*
@all:
When I was 12, and could barely convince my parents I needed even one system, this may have been relevant. Eventually all the kiddies here will grow up, get a job, make their own money, and hopefully stop screaming into the Xbox live mic so I have to mute you.

Until then, you’ll fight for your life that the system you chose is the best because… well cause you chose it.
The big boys just buy em all. I don’t mind spending copious amounts of money on all the systems and a new PC every year. Better then letting the money collect dust in an account somewhere. Then I also get to pwn all the ‘one trick console ponies’ with my “got em all” comments.
In other words, Get a job little monkeys.
The systems are only as good as the games, and every system has exclusive titles worth owning.
Stop whining and get em all.

As for PS3 rumble? meh… who cares. I rarely notice whether my controller vibrates or not.
Just turn up the sub and the whole room will shake. Much more ambient.

Comment by MrDooves — July 25, 2008 @ 11:48 am

@token2k6

You don’t need to actually upgrade your hardware every 6 months to run new games at minimal settings unless you are poor, and only buy the cheapest parts you could dig out of the walmart bin for your dell.

I bought my computer i am on now 4 years ago, it was pretty decent, but not really _that_ high end, and i’ve only put about $200 into it. One hundred for ram and one hundred for a new video card a while ago. And i can run new games on even medium. (Except crysis but that doesnt count).

The PC gets more than 20 games per year. (Also I’d rather get fewer good games than an onslaught of shitty games) Especially if you count the hundreds of casual games released every year. Plus we get blizzard games. Have fun playing warcraft 2 on your playstation 1, since the ps3 isn’t backwards compatable that far

Comment by Kero — July 25, 2008 @ 12:44 pm

I just don’t like messing with system settings. My PC is about three years old, and it can run pretty much everything on fairly adequate settings. I’m not a graphics whore so it’s not that important that everything is uber shiny.

I own both the 360 and the Wii, and my roommate has a PS3, and from what I’ve seen the 360 is the best all-around console. Sure, its graphics are slightly below the PS3’s, but the game library (thank you year-long head start) makes up for that more than adequately. The Wii was my first of the current-gen consoles, but I’ve played pretty much all of the good games for it, and since all I play on it now is Brawl I don’t even use the Wii remote for a whole lot more than the menu.

Plus, my consoles are hooked up to better audio and visual equipment than my PC is, and I can actually interact and have a good time with my friends (face-to-face, I mean) with my consoles on the living room couch than I can with my PC up in my room.

Comment by jmbrock — July 25, 2008 @ 1:00 pm

I find token’s argument that he’s rich enough to afford all 3 consoles, but doesn’t want to spend money on a PC rather suspect. Especially since I have all three, and a PC. Since I bought my 360, I’ve spent $1400-ish on console hardware ($600 PS3, $400 360, $250 Wii, plus applicable taxes). In the same period, I’ve spent $300 on PC hardware, and (Crysis excepted) I can run any game out there just fine.

And speaking of games, how’s bout them prices? Around here, most PC games debut at $40, $50 for the triple-A titles, while console games go for $60 and $70. And two or three months from now, those PC games will be $20-30, but the console games? Yup, still $60-70.

And 20 games a year? What pipe have you been smoking. There’s twice that number due out in the next month: http://pc.gamespy.com/index/release.html
Which is actually more than what’s due out in the same period for the PS3, 360, or the Wii.

Now don’t get me wrong. I love my consoles and my PC equally. There’s games for all four in the next few months that I’m excited as hell about. But as an overall platform, my consoles still can’t hold up against my PC. It’s just better. Though I should note that doesn’t mean the consoles are bad. I think Jessica Alba would give a better BJ than Jessica Biel, but a Biel BJ would still be fantastic.

Now I’m done. Though I’d be remiss if I didn’t point out that token’s relationship with his vagina sounds a lot more like a rental/lease agreement than actual ownership.

Comment by AgZed — July 25, 2008 @ 4:58 pm

Wii > PS3 > Xbawx 360

Comment by diabeetus — July 25, 2008 @ 5:14 pm

wow, i agree with evil illuminati? o_O that’s weird.

Comment by vutterfly — July 25, 2008 @ 6:28 pm

I can’t believe no one’s said this before me but
token:

You sound like a 12 year old idiot fanboy.

I don’t believe you have a vagina, enjoy your hand.

Comment by Max — July 25, 2008 @ 6:51 pm

I don’t know if anyone has said this yet (as I dont like to read the lengthy arguments b/c it gives me a headache). But I think the funniest and biggest failure of the PS3 is that they have blu ray yet they don’t have any movies dowloadable in Blu Ray format, only SD and HD…kinda negating the whole purpose of being a high priced media system. If I am wrong please correct me as I have been a Sony fan up until it’s recent console endeavor.

Comment by Keysersoze — July 25, 2008 @ 7:19 pm

i like cake.

Comment by dekay46 — July 25, 2008 @ 10:05 pm

@Keysersoze:
Blu Ray is not a video format, its the use of a blue colored laser in order to store and read more information on a single disk. Its impossible to download “Blu ray”, since that term only refers to the disk and laser technology.

The Blu Ray technology allows you to store ‘High Definition’ movies on a disk, Hence those ‘HD’ downloads you mentioned are virtually the same as Blu ray.

Should one splurge for a Blu Ray ‘Burner’, you could put HD movies onto a Blu Ray disk without losing quality. Otherwise, you just keep it on your hard drive.

Comment by MrDooves — July 26, 2008 @ 11:27 am

The piss stain on the seat would put most off.

Comment by teezy weezy — July 23, 2008 @ 5:21 am

Attempted carjacked twice. One citizens arrest, one guy running away in the night like a pussy. Surprisingly, both times without having to use a gun. Oh, wait. I don’t have a small penis. Sorry, almost forgot.

Comment by Paul_Is_Drunk — July 23, 2008 @ 7:58 am

You used your penis to apprehend these criminals… no wonder he ran… swing your non-small penis at them… I wouldn’t car-jack you either.

Some of us do have a small penis and can easily make up for it by waving a gun that makes the carjackee’s penis become smaller.

Comment by TrendyPick — July 23, 2008 @ 9:28 am

Lol.

“Attempted carjacked twice.”

–Insert line about learning from history–

Don’t worry. I’m sure when somebody finally does carjack you with a gun or some other weapon, your gigantic dong will defend you and save the day.

Comment by FlyingMantisShrimp — July 23, 2008 @ 11:06 am

magazine*

Comment by dekay46 — July 23, 2008 @ 11:46 am

i’ve shot that gun, it’s not accurate and cheaply made.

Comment by Drew — July 23, 2008 @ 5:47 pm

@teezy weezy: I think its a creampie stain. Yeah, that means I had sex w/ a chick and my cum came out of her onto my seat. so go fuck yourself.

@drew: go fuck yourself too! at least mine was made in america

Comment by token2k6 — July 23, 2008 @ 6:14 pm

Wow, token. Paul accuses you of having a tiny penis, so then you come along and remove all doubt.

Comment by Lord Cocksworth — July 23, 2008 @ 9:32 pm

If your American gun performs like American cars, I wouldn’t trust my life to it.

Comment by wombat — July 23, 2008 @ 10:07 pm

My father was killed with a gun bought for protection.
===============================================
Self-Defense: The Great Myth of America’s Gun Industry
http://www.consumerfed.org/pdfs/self_defense.pdf.

Guns have long been seen as tools of self-defense in the United States. But, contrary to gun industry hype, unintended consequences often happen when people buy guns for self-defense. Studies by public health professionals have repeatedly found that having a gun around for any reason increases the likelihood that a family member—as opposed to a criminal—will be injured or killed with a gun. A 1997 American Journal of Public Health study showed that family members that had a history of buying a handgun from a licensed dealer were twice as likely to die in a suicide or homicide as were persons similarly situated who had no such family history of gun purchase. This increased risk persisted for more than five years after the handgun was purchased.
Other studies have looked specifically at the more narrow question of keeping guns in the home for self-defense. One, published in The New England Journal of Medicine, found that having a gun in the home made it nearly three times more likely that someone in the family will be killed. This risk is particularly high for women, who are more likely to be killed by a spouse, intimate acquaintance, or close relative. An Archives of Internal Medicine study found that, with one or more guns in the home, the risk of suicide among women increased nearly five times and the risk of homicide increased more than three times.
These and other studies have documented repeatedly the enhanced risk that comes from bringing a gun into the home. Even the gun press admits the risk in unguarded moments. Describing the demise of so-called “lintel guns,” firearms hung over the door ready for immediate action in frontier times, Shooting Sports Retailer noted:
“Today, guns in a home used for self protection are not hung over the door but are more likely in a desk drawer or beside the bed in a night stand. When a child is hurt in a firearm accident it is often the self defense gun that was found, played with, and ultimately fired by the youngster.”
But how often do people use guns successfully to protect themselves from criminal acts? Does it justify the deaths and damage that comes with guns? Apparently not. Most studies have found that guns play a relatively minor role in preventing crime but a major role in facilitating it. For example, the US Department of Justice study found that, on the average, between 1987 and 1992 only one percent of actual or attempted victims of violent crime, or about 62,000 people, attempted to defend themselves with a firearm. On the other hand, criminals armed with handguns committed a record 931,000 violent crimes in 1992. Data from the FBI’s Crime in the United States reveals that for every time in 1998 that a civilian used a handgun to kill in self-defense, 50 people lost their lives in handgun homicides alone.

One advocate of the value of handguns for self-defense is Gary Kleck, professor of criminology at Florida State University in Tallahassee. Kleck and his colleague Mark Gertz claim their survey research indicates that civilians use guns in self-defense up to 2.5 million times a year. Naturally enough, the NRA and the gun industry have widely cited Kleck’s work as proof of the value of owning a gun. But Dr. David Hemenway, a professor at Harvard’s School of Public Health, dissected the work of Kleck and Gertz in The Journal of Criminal Law & Criminology, concluding that their survey contained ”a huge overestimation bias” and that their estimate is “highly exaggerated.” Hemenway applied Kleckand Gertz’s methodology to a 1994 ABC News/Washington Post survey in which people were asked if they had ever seen an alien spacecraft or come into direct contact with a space alien. He demonstrated that, by the application of Kleck and Gertz’s methodology, one would conclude that almost 20 million Americans have seen a spacecraft from another planet and more than a million have actually met space aliens.

Comment by uttermost — July 24, 2008 @ 12:08 am

Whilst I agree with the spirit of that article, and certainly am against all things gunnish, it’s important to note that drawing direct correlations such as those in this article can be misleading. For example, you would probably find that a high proportion of “protection” gun owners live in areas with a low quality of life index. This would account for the high level of crime that might have inspired them to buy a gun. But such areas might also have a higher incidence of suicide, mental illness and all other kinds of things that could cause the effects these studies have seen. Obviously, I’ve got no data to back this up, but worth bearing in mind.

Comment by daviest11 — July 24, 2008 @ 3:43 am

All I have in my glove box is a roadmap. And maybe some gum and a couple of CDs.

Mind you, I live in the UK where we have less car-jackings. And more importantly, less gun-loving Americans carrying weapons of death around, because it’s there right to be surrounded by lethal objects.

Comment by phantomwhale — July 24, 2008 @ 8:15 am

i’m glad your faggot father died from a handgun.

Comment by Drew — July 24, 2008 @ 10:47 am

Thanks Drew.

Comment by uttermost — July 24, 2008 @ 11:01 am

@ uttermost
Sorry, that was rude.

Comment by Drew — July 25, 2008 @ 12:56 pm

are you two gonna hold hands and cuddle now?

Comment by dekay46 — July 25, 2008 @ 9:41 pm

I grew up hunting with guns and still enjoy it so I don’t think I am so much anti-gun, as maybe I am more pro-trigger-lock. Since my father’s death 20 years ago I’ve collected many stories and reports.
================================================
Man Accidentally Kills Neighbor While Cleaning Gun
24 Sep 2006
Posted By: Mandi Bishop
WOAI.com San Antonio news. Texas

Jesse Hernandez says he was cleaning his M-16 when it just went off. The bullet went through his wall and killed 24-year-old neighbor Salvo Garcia. This all happened late Friday night into Saturday morning on Bandera Road near Hillcrest. Garcia’s wife found her husband when she got home from work just after midnight Saturday morning. Police aren’t sure if any charges will be filed in the case but they do say the shooting does look accidental. Hernandez says he feels bad for the Garcia family and wishes it never happened. He also says he is getting rid of his gun. He bought it a few months ago for protection.

Comment by uttermost — July 25, 2008 @ 10:56 pm

a gun is a responsability just like anything else, you can kill someone or commit suicide with an automobile, and there are far more car deaths worldwide then gun violence yet nobody is protesting cars.

Comment by SKILLERWHALE — July 26, 2008 @ 6:02 pm

He is prepared for the zombie uprising I see.

Oh yes my friends, they are coming. They are coming.

Comment by Ben1605 — June 22, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

Are they still called AR-15s if they have the M4 conversion done? Or was that purchased like that?

Comment by angrymatt — June 22, 2008 @ 1:22 pm

@Angrymatt

Yes, they are still AR-15s if they have the retractabnle stock. The difference between an AR-15 & M4 is barrel length. The 15 has a 20″ barrel and the M4 has a 16″ barrel.

This *looks* to be an AR-15A3 as the 16″ barrel usually has a little narrow spot & I don’t see one here.

Comment by evildick — June 22, 2008 @ 2:09 pm

evildick: If you don’t know shit about guns, then don’t post shit about guns. dumbass.

The M4 has a 14.5 inch barrel and the cutout on the barrel for the M203 grenade launcher. This is a standard AR-15A3 with 16″ non-m4 barrel.

Comment by m92 — June 22, 2008 @ 2:34 pm

People who know about guns LOL

overcompensating?

Comment by teezy weezy — June 22, 2008 @ 2:37 pm

Well, yeah, it’s a good gun. I see it has one of those long things, a barrel or somesuch. And a looking glass, and a clip-containing device. Is that a lantern I see?

This gun is entirely unnecessary. By the time he hefts it into his underworked shoulder, jerks off over it, and works up the balls to actually confront someone instead of cowering under his bed, an intruder will have carved an apology into his chest.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 22, 2008 @ 3:29 pm

YOU’RE ALL FAGGOTS.

Real men get the .223 for zombie invasions because the ballistics of that lighter round will make is go through the skull but not out the other side, bouncing around like a golfball in a raquetball court scrambling the brains.

GOD DAMN YOU GUYS ARE IDIOTS.

[/sarcasm]

Comment by DemolitionsGeek — June 22, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

Luke V1-5 - You fucktard, how could this not be a viable option in a home defense (zombie or person)? I think he can easily hear a windows break, get out of bed, pick it up, cock it and shoot whatever he fucking sees. Why don’t you leave guns to the people who know and go back to your capgun … dumb fuck.

Comment by ttudrew98 — June 22, 2008 @ 4:27 pm

How do i shot gun?

Comment by Pants — June 22, 2008 @ 4:35 pm

@m92..

Well, aren’t you a fucktard…

I’ll accept the 14.5″ barrel comment as Iwas only ever issued full 16s and only got to fire a 203 in basic because I had an IQ high enough to have an MOS other than 11B.

But if you bother to carefully read my comment, I did peg it as an AR-15A3.

Retard.

Comment by evildick — June 22, 2008 @ 4:42 pm

evildick: LOL, you’re in the army…

I’m in one of the other branches of service who actually requires an ASVAB score of above 15. What the fuck is an 11B, LOL.

Comment by m92 — June 22, 2008 @ 5:01 pm

The weapon was designed as a “Katrina” gun not as an instant home defence weapon. The gun is a Panther DPMS model a4 chambered in .223, it has a 16″ barrel. It has a 3-point tactical sling, and a streamlight flashlight with a CAA quick detach mount, with a streamlight pressure switch. The forehand grip is also from CAA. Again the i built the rifle not for immediate self-defense but for a “Katrina” hurricane like situation in which law and order have collasped. For home defense I have a thompson submachine gun chambered in .45 cal. which has far superior terminal ballistics in the short range.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 22, 2008 @ 5:22 pm

“LOL, you’re in the Army. My branch sucks less cock than your’s! LOL!”

@ttudrew98
You really want a high powered assault rifle for home defense? That’s pretty irresponsible. That’s a good way to shoot somebody you didn’t mean to and/or cause some good property damage after your errant rounds go through a few walls.

Comment by FlyingMantisShrimp — June 22, 2008 @ 6:18 pm

Jesus, this has been one of the most shit-talking posts i’ve seen in a while! sorry to get everyone so riled up and thanks DHG for setting the record straight. next time i’ll try to peg the headline title a little better.

Comment by token2k6 — June 22, 2008 @ 6:41 pm

First off, fuck you token2k6.

FlyingMantisShrimp: Yes I would want that as home defense. If it goes through walls and kills others then so be it.

Comment by ttudrew98 — June 22, 2008 @ 6:44 pm

@ttudrew98: just getting off the phone with DHG, seems like I will be borrowing something of his after that last comment. May God help you now….

Comment by token2k6 — June 22, 2008 @ 6:52 pm

Move that forend grip further out, its more stable. That tape switch on the 1913 adaptor looks wild, never seen anything like that before.

And a thompson doesn’t have far superior ballistics is short range. But frankly at home defense ranges, anything in the .380 and up range is gonna be enough, its all about shot placement. A .22 to the tear duct is gonna do a whole lot more damage than a .45 to the shoulder.

There are plenty of rounds available for the .223/5.56 cartridges that will not go through two pieces of drywall, whereas only frangible pistol cartridges have a chance at not doing that.

But really the thing that makes gun more appropriate for zombies than home invaders is the ACOG looking optic on top. A red dot sight on top would be far superior than an ACOG at conversation range, thanks to the red dots having no magnification and unlimited parallax.

You may want to try something like a “redi mag” vs that magazine clamp youve got.
http://www.redi-mag.com/redimagii.php

Comment by Nimbo — June 22, 2008 @ 6:59 pm

In response to NIMBO:

I didnt say the .45 cal had better ballistics, I said it had better terminal ballistics at short range, which is an indication of how much damage it does based on the amount of energy it is transfering to the target. The .45 APC round is one of the best man stopper ever produced. As for the second part of your comment you are partially correct, there used to be lots of frangible rounds in .223, however LE sector has basically sucked up all the supply. I also have a red dot, but as I described in an earlier post the weapon is designed as a tactically flexible weapon meant to deal with a Katrina scenrio.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 22, 2008 @ 7:36 pm

“Why don’t you leave guns to the people who know and go back to your capgun …”

I don’t need to. See, I have this thing called, “Upper Body Strength”, and I know how to, um, what is it, “Fight”. If you need an unfair advantage to protect yourself, you don’t really deserve to.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 22, 2008 @ 7:44 pm

Oh, and I never said it wasn’t viable. If anything, it’s over viable. What I really meant to say was , ahem, “GUN NUTS CAN SUCK MY BALLS”.

ahem.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 22, 2008 @ 7:54 pm

@ LukeV1-5:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
How original! That’s the first time an anonymous internets posters said they were built. I bet you are!
You can suck my balls fag fucker.

Comment by ttudrew98 — June 22, 2008 @ 8:21 pm

@LukeV1-5

you keep swinging champ. while your ass is being gnawed on by the zombies, I’ll be picking them off from 100 yards.

BOOM HEADSHOT.

Comment by tiki god — June 22, 2008 @ 8:57 pm

Aaaand my respect for the MCS community just hit an alltime low. Wasn’t this a place we could hang out and look at cool shit? Not watch jocksniffing bags of homophobic testosterone verbally brawl over who has the biggest nutsack? Fucking pathetic.

Comment by TrayShadix — June 22, 2008 @ 9:02 pm

Uhhh, Yeah. Zombies.

About that…

And I never said I was buff. I said I was strong. I’m not a jock, I don’t go to the gym. But I work hauling big-ass pieces of wood around. And sanding, that does good for the muscle that punches. I think it’s called the hitting muscle.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 22, 2008 @ 9:11 pm

listen all the gunphobies (I’m just guessing your a typical northern liberal) should move to canada or australia where everyone is like you. and that way when you get in a fight you wont get shot for being such a jackass. I can just see you there with a gun pointed at your head saying oh come on dude dont be a pussy, then bang…

Comment by dhg4983 — June 22, 2008 @ 9:29 pm

Weird. This whole flame-war was between people who though an assault rifle was overkill for a middle of the night junkie burglar and those who love their right to bear arms…and now you’ve gone straight from “I’m protecting my home!” to “You’re going to get shot in a fight for being a jackass!”

Maybe people who are so afraid of their own inferiority and socially intellectual ineptitude should stop CLAIMING their guns are for anything else. I love the freedom of gun ownership. It’s like anything else, cars, electronics, we love our toys. I just don’t want to hear a friggen’ flame war over it on a website we all just come to hang out and enjoy.

Comment by TrayShadix — June 22, 2008 @ 9:54 pm

To be fair, my love of firearms does not stem from “socially intellectual ineptitude” or general “inferiority” (Did someone ask for some extremely generalized pyscho-babble, who the fuck are you a lamer Dr. Phil?). If you dont like the direction MCS is going, head on over to myspace you can hang with all the pedophiles and prepubescents.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 22, 2008 @ 10:09 pm

LOOK AT MY COCK
IT’S BIGGER THAN YOUR COCK
BECAUSE I KNOW MORE ABOUT GUNS, COCK.

Comment by DemolitionsGeek — June 22, 2008 @ 10:36 pm

@m92
@ttudrew98
@evildick
@LukeV1-5

You all are such douchebags it’s embarrassing. You make the rest of the MCS community look as pathetic as you are. FFS it’s a picture of a gun.

Comment by pedantic — June 23, 2008 @ 12:07 am

In response to NIMBO:

I didnt say the .45 cal had better ballistics, I said it had better terminal ballistics at short range, which is an indication of how much damage it does based on the amount of energy it is transfering to the target. The .45 APC round is one of the best man stopper ever produced.

In modern hollowpoint rounds a 9mm, .40 cal, .45 is all the same. The .223 does more damage at close range to living tissue than any of those rounds.

As for the second part of your comment you are partially correct, there used to be lots of frangible rounds in .223, however LE sector has basically sucked up all the supply.

Frangible arent the only ones in the .223 man. PLENTY of other loads will. I recommend Hornady TAP, 55gr loads are probably the best.

I also have a red dot, but as I described in an earlier post the weapon is designed as a tactically flexible weapon meant to deal with a Katrina scenrio.

Your thompson is nice piece of history, but as a HD gun it is severely outclassed by many modern weapons, your AR being one of them. Your .45 will overpenetrate, hard to mount a light or an optic on.

Comment by Nimbo — June 23, 2008 @ 12:52 am

@pedantic

…

niccceeeee

Comment by caffino54 — June 23, 2008 @ 1:19 am

http://www.myconfinedspace.com.....un-thread/

Comment by Billy Manic — June 23, 2008 @ 1:59 am

still no one tells me how i shot gun

Comment by Pants — June 23, 2008 @ 5:45 am

Actually nimbo at close range the .223 has some problems because the barrel twist has been dramtically increased. During the vietnam war, it was 1:6, now it is 1:9 this has improved accuracy but all but reduced the famous tumbly (end over end) effect the .223 used to make at close range. It still has a tendacy at medium ranges but at close range it has been compared to a flying ice pick, going way to fast through targets and not transfering much energy to the target. Now tests have shown at medium and long ranges the round will also “yaw” which produces odd shaped wounds. I stand by my comments about the .45 cal. The round was created to deal with drug addled Philipeono (sic) insurgents in the early 20th century. Traditional .380 smith and wesson revlovers were not stopping them thats why the army created the .45 to put people down and keep them down. While modern hollowpoints (I use .45 hollowpoints) have dramatically increased the damage to scare tissue they dont increase the amount of energy that is transfered to a target this is a crucial aspect. The key to the .45 is its dramatically increased weight over rounds like the .38, 9mm, or .40 SW.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 23, 2008 @ 7:04 am

@dhg:

When choosing a bullet requires a postdoctoral thesis, you may as well just KILL IT WITH FIRE!1!!!!!

Comment by nathanj37 — June 23, 2008 @ 9:22 am

@ttudrew98

Lol. Great response.

“WHO CARES IF I SHOOT ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE BURGLARY!? IT’S THEIR FAULT FOR NOT SLEEPING IN A COFFIN OF KEVLAR AND TITANIUM!!!”

Look, an assault rifle is a POOR choice for civilian home defense. The response of “oh well” to killing/injuring somebody who had nothing to do with what’s going on in your house is pretty fucking stupid. Insisting that you absolutely *HAVE* to use an assault rifle pretty much proves that you have some severe compensation issues and you just want a rifle like that so you can look like a “badass.” Grow up.

Comment by FlyingMantisShrimp — June 23, 2008 @ 11:06 am

I LOVE THIS THREAD, LMAO!

And as for the ballistics debate - how about you just buy the caliber that you feel works best for your particular situation.

If you get this worked up just discussing the merits of your favorite weapon/round then I’m betting that you’ll probably end up shooting yourself in the foot if you ever have to confront a bad guy in the middle of the night.

Comment by DasMaus — June 23, 2008 @ 11:07 am

@ FlyingMantisShrimp
My comment was dripping with sarcasm.
I don’t need a gun, I’m a Jedi.

Comment by ttudrew98 — June 23, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

@Ballistics debate

It’s a bullet. Hitting someone. They won’t be wearing body armour, because they’re thieves. Anything will do.

Hell, who needs ammo. A pistol whip would be enough.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 23, 2008 @ 2:47 pm

@DasMaus

Actually i consider people who debate ballistics and the merits of different firearms to be an indication that they are capable, experianced and not likely to shoot themselves in the foot in the middle of night at the first sign of a disturbance.

@lukeV1-5

Your dismissal of different caliburs as “its a bullet. hitting someone” to be a really good indication of your total lack of knowledge when it comes to firearms, which in its self is not a bad thing, but maybe it would be a good idea for you to stick to topics that concern: bareknuckle fighting, hauling lumber and sanding objects. Go with your strengths!

Comment by dhg4983 — June 23, 2008 @ 3:13 pm

@lukeV1-5

I bet you have another “developed” muscle that you forgot to share with the community. Your mouth is probably pretty strong from all the dicks you suck.

Comment by ttudrew98 — June 23, 2008 @ 4:36 pm

@dhg
We all know about arguing on the internet. And I know quite a few people who are very knowledgable about ballistics who I won’t let handle a firearm - being knowledgable does NOT translate into being capable. There are some that are both however

Comment by DasMaus — June 23, 2008 @ 4:36 pm

@dhg

You can include Physics and Mechanical/Electrical engineering.

@ttudrew

You really do fail at this whole debate thing. Seriously, “You’re gay lol” is /b/ level. I didn’t think MCS was that low.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 23, 2008 @ 4:41 pm

Well good for you luke! you want a prize? who cares? Again stick to posting about those things then, as oppossed to posting about firearms or anything else in which you have no knowledge or interest. And lay off drew he went Texas Technical community college, their debating program was sadly underdeveloped.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 23, 2008 @ 4:46 pm

picture of a gun + the internet = lulz

Comment by Ollie — June 23, 2008 @ 8:04 pm

Fuck yes I want a prize.

Comment by LukeV1-5 — June 23, 2008 @ 8:06 pm

@dhg4983,

i would love it if they came to Australia- there’s always room for sensible folk. And why does everyone call people ‘faggots’ and crack gay jokes when they don’t like someone? Gays aren’t hurting anyone, why don’t you show some maturity and acceptance of other people’s life choices

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 7:23 am

@youoxymoron

always room for sensible folk? What as long as their not wogs? Were sensible folk responible for the Cronulla riots? Or were those racists as fuck Australian folk? Listen go back to drinking your VB, meat pies and watching footie and stay out of the ethnocentric rachet. Because firearms are part of our culture, just like neighbors and home and away are part of yours (neighbors rules, H&A sucks so hard)

Comment by dhg4983 — June 24, 2008 @ 7:48 am

wow………did i say that Australia is problem free? Way to stereotype, too….. coz all i do is sit at home, drink beer and eat meat pies while beating my wife. Hey- slavery was also once part of your culture- maybe we should embrace that as well and catch ourselves a strong’un. Now YOU listen, just because you saw a 2 min. clip of these ‘race wars’ on the news does NOT mean that you know enough about it to judge MY country on it (lol can you even point out Cronulla on a map?)- it was a boiling point that was a long time coming- these people disrespected women on the beach wearing bikinis and beat the crap out of a lifeguard- and the other group was a bunch of disgruntled, drunken fools that let themselves be manipulated by a few racist tools. People in Australia don’t have a problem with muslims OR Lebanese Australians, no matter what the media try to say- however there is a horrible sub-culture in a lot of Lebanese youth (mostly men) that think it’s ok to treat women like meat, which is fuelling another terrible sub-culture in ‘white’ australian men that all ‘wogs’ are bad. All i was saying by that was that i agreed with some of the comments, so how about YOU stop being intolerant.

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 8:12 am

Actually I was there fool, and my gf at the time was getting her cell phone blown up by text messages calling for the lynching of wogs, it was a pretty scary moment (how else would i know about your tv shows). So I dont think OZ is racist but it is not the liberal utopia it likes to think it is, and many of the actions taken by aussies in their daily lives is an indication that their has not been a modern civil rights movement (I heard continious and numerous racial ephitats shouted at an essendon footie match).

Comment by dhg4983 — June 24, 2008 @ 8:22 am

ok sure you just keep basing your opinion on text msgs and football matches- i’m sure its a valid and accurate census of Australians. Btw no modern civil rights movement? Hmmm maybe you should check up on the subject before you say things like that, coz there has been. Anyway whatever- you disagree, i disagree, we’re not going to change each other’s mindset. Just keep in mind that you can never know all the facts, even if you were there, and maybe i’ll do just the same.

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 8:31 am

i’m just terribly nationalistic, i guess.

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 8:33 am

Listen man I love australia, and lets be frank both your culture and mine have treated our respective native populations pretty terribly. I’m just saying you would never ever hear people in the states shouting racial slurs at a public sporting event of any kind, or really in public at all. And by modern civil rights movement I guess I am imagining something akin to the American movement which lasted for decades was highly visible, produced iconic leaders like MLK, and dramatically improved the lives of minorities. Then again Australia has a much smaller minority population than the states. I experianced a similar if but much worse situation while living in England, as the “n’ word was tossed around pretty freely at any pub I went into that had a soccer match on the tele

Comment by dhg4983 — June 24, 2008 @ 8:46 am

ok fair enough point taken. No doubt we still have barriers to overcome, just sick of hearing people call my country racist coz of high-publicity events and bogans- i guess i consider it calling me racist as well. England eh? never been, but my friends tell me they like anything deep-fried (especially mars bars). Ok group hug- ahh, i feel like we’ve just made a turning point in interweb relations.

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 9:01 am

And let me say, as you pointed out in your original post the USA is terribly homophobic, or more precisely parts of the states are homphobic and the country is still working through that. Right now the US is really trying to sort a lot of things out and it is a very polarizing time and it seems to cover the full spectrum of issues: gay rights, energy use, global warming, global role of the country, race, economic policy. It is very tense here right now.

Comment by dhg4983 — June 24, 2008 @ 9:08 am

yeah, sounds like it is tense. Our dollar’s worth more than yours now- never thought that would happen. Might come over on exchange and sink some of my big aussie bucks into the economy Ya the next few years are really going to be crazy- for us as well

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 9:21 am

Horray! finally a smiley face and a resolution. good job you two!

Comment by token2k6 — June 24, 2008 @ 9:32 am

lol well i couldn’t leave your post on a sour note could i!

Comment by youoxymoron — June 24, 2008 @ 9:34 am

LOL looks like I’m a little late posting, but to answer an earlier question, 11B is Infantryman. It is an extremely demanding MOS both physically and mentally. The Infantry is the heart of the fight, wherever, whenever. Follow me!

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