tiki god — November 13, 2008 @ 12:32 am

warp nacelles are too close to the saucer section, the warp field is going to be disrupted by their proximity and it’ll never be able to go over light speed.

which sucks, cause it’ll take them the entire movie just to get to the end of our solar system.

BowToMe — November 13, 2008 @ 12:39 am

Man they sure switched up the look of the Millenium Falcon. I was always kind of bigger Star Trek fan anyway …

RSIxidor — November 13, 2008 @ 12:46 am

You mean the guys that make tanks make spaceships, too?

efraiel — November 13, 2008 @ 12:56 am

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4164654080/tt0796366

MikeBabaguh — November 13, 2008 @ 1:01 am

I am cautiously optimistic this will be good. I’ve learned to trust Abrams when it comes to quality entertainment, but…him doing Trek? I dunno.

And I agree. The nacelles are too close to the saucer section.

wartoaster — November 13, 2008 @ 2:06 am

Abrams, what the hell. this is not even CLOSE to what an X-wing looks like. X wing, meaning the wings are in an X… its like you’ve never seen star wars…

dub_1211 — November 13, 2008 @ 2:55 am

that is the most futuristic bong i have ever seen.

thelotuseater725 — November 13, 2008 @ 3:21 am

So JJ Abrams is directing the Remake of Starchaser: the legend of Orin eh? I’m guessing this is Dags Ship

vanvelding — November 13, 2008 @ 5:59 am

So what is the radius that warp nacelles need to function properly? 10m? 20?

garbledxmission — November 13, 2008 @ 10:26 am

JJ Abrams is the current king of fucking over his fans. (he took the crown from David Lynch) While from what I have seen preview wise of this movie gives me hope that maybe, just maybe this once he might not treat the viewers like something other than with his usual utter contempt I’m not going to hold my breath.
Lost is the ultimate inside joke where the joke is on the viewer. And JJ and his cronies are laughing at them all the way to the bank.

Not that I have strong feelings on the subject or anything.

aarpie — November 13, 2008 @ 10:49 am

@garbledxmission:
For the record, the fact that Lost is sucking ass at this point is ABC’s fault. JJ wanted to do three seasons, then end the series with a movie. ABC gave him the old “fuck no, you make us money!” response, so he told them right then and there he was going to destroy the series. I think we can all agree that season four is pretty much where Lost reached the “WTF” zone. And I’m not getting that off of forum fodder, a friend of mine worked for ABC at the time and was privvy to the coversation. Good times.

@tiki god
Actually, the closer they are to the saucer section, and the more streamlined the ships shape is, the better the warp field will be. Which means, this design is even more kick assier… yes, I am that big of a nerd…

MikeBabaguh — November 13, 2008 @ 12:24 pm

Are you kidding? Season 4 was lightyears better than seasons 2 and 3.

garbledxmission — November 13, 2008 @ 12:55 pm

@aarpie. No, you are wrong and here is why. I’ll even do it point by point for you.

1) You stated that JJ wanted to end at three seasons and do a movie but ABC said “no we want more money, do more seasons”. Ok, think about that. He wanted to stop making a TV series which makes decent money and move to a movie format which would make shitloads of money. How exactly is that less greedy than what ABC wanted?
2) When ABC told him to make more seasons he told them he was going to destroy the series. So he’d rather ruin a series beloved by millions and (once again), fuck over his fans because he was having the producer version of a temper tantrum because he wasn’t getting his way. BTW, if he had a contract with ABC for more seasons as part of the TV deal, then how is it right that he reneges on said deal so he could make a movie so he could gain more fame/attention/money?
3) His entire producing/directing/writing style is lazy and sloppy at best. He purposefully makes things overly mysterious, weird, dramatic and gives as little information out as possible while raising 5 questions for every answer he deigns to provide. It’s a style of writing that preys upon the human need to know things, especially that which is purposefully kept hidden from them. (you know, like a kid wanting to know what’s in his Xmas presents) It’s all action/reaction on the part of the characters, (who are all pretty one damn dimensional btw), and no real development of a real story. This way he doesn’t really need a real storyline, plot, story logic, real character development, dialogue, etc. He can just dribble tidbits of info out from time to time, keeping the fans wanting more like a bunch of junkies. David Lynch did this for years, which makes JJ derivative and unimaginative. He couldn’t even come up with an original way to fuck people over, he had to copy someone else’s style of doing it. The entire feel of “Cloverfield” screamed that aforementioned style.
4) JJ Abrams has on many occasions openly expressed his loathing and contempt for his fans, likening them to “rubes” or “suckers”. He treats his entire career like a gigantic inside joke played on the masses who are stupid enough to come back for more of his bullshittery. How do you feel knowing the person that created this show you like so much thinks of it as a meal ticket and has no respect for you, the person that paid for said meal? So little respect that he’d rather destroy the show than not get his way like some kind of child. This is the man you are so vociferously defending.

Like I said, I am a ST fan so I will give the new movie a shot. Since it’s a very different type of story his normal style of directing may not be applicable to it. We will have to wait and see. I hope, I really, really hope he doesn’t fuck it up. But I’m not betting against it.

MrPsychic — November 13, 2008 @ 5:23 pm

@tiki god: The nacelles could be angled back, like the refit Enterprise from TMP. Personally, I think the secondary hull is too short, it needs to be a bit longer to sort of balance it out. No other starship designs end right where the nacelles connect to the hull.

Phyreblade — November 13, 2008 @ 11:54 pm

Srsly, if you are going to make a film based on one of the most popular and widely canonized sci-fi franchises ever, you’d think they’d do at least a *little* warp drive engineering research first before designing the spacecraft…

PrometheusUnbound — November 14, 2008 @ 4:42 pm

Man, I’m not even going to see this.

Puulaahi — November 7, 2008 @ 4:00 pm

Oscar bait. Looks pretty good.

JamesTuskGeorge — November 7, 2008 @ 6:05 pm

Fuck you, I’m a double oh seven!

Dreth — November 7, 2008 @ 6:20 pm

Bond vs. Sabertooth

goblin0 — November 7, 2008 @ 7:43 pm

look at that bell on the right

BowToMe — November 7, 2008 @ 11:58 pm

November 14th … I can make it. I can make it. I can make …. FUCK! I want Bond NOW!!!

Rocko — November 9, 2008 @ 3:29 pm

Can it be worse than Quantum of Sausage or whatever it was called?

AlecDalek — November 4, 2008 @ 10:02 am

Watch out Kirk, Sylar’s right behind you!

ack — November 4, 2008 @ 10:13 am

Damn! Looks like its Star Trek - 90210 time!

I hope Spock gets it on with Jenny Garth at some point… chicka-bah-baaaa…

AbNo — November 4, 2008 @ 10:16 am

WTF is this shit?

pantscomeoff — November 4, 2008 @ 10:21 am

Why does the new Kirk look like a smarmy little prick?

twosticks — November 4, 2008 @ 10:31 am

Because he’s good at impersonating Bill Shatner.

natedog — November 4, 2008 @ 11:00 am

SURPRISE VULCANSECKS

vanvelding — November 4, 2008 @ 11:02 am

@twosticks: FTW.

But seriously, caption might read:
Left: Captain and XO of Starship Enterprise
Right: Ken and Barbie, 2430

I mean, whose portrait can be put beside William Shatner’s Captain Jim “Half my scenes are shot in unfocused romanta-vision” Kirk, and make Kirk look manly?

jascas_ — November 4, 2008 @ 11:33 am

lol @natedog

Special Kail — November 4, 2008 @ 11:40 am

who are sylar’s eyebrows supposed to be?

Elepski — November 4, 2008 @ 11:42 am

I can’t wait for the new film!

mintymadness — November 4, 2008 @ 11:57 am

@ jascas_:

Don’t encourage him…

AbNo — November 4, 2008 @ 1:09 pm

No, seriously, WTF is this shit?

WistfulD — November 4, 2008 @ 2:23 pm

@AbNo
Seriously, AbNo, this is a side-by-side shot of Nimoy and Shatner as Spock&Kirk, and their counterparts in the next Star Trek movie, which features new actors playing the cast of the original series during their starfleet academy days.

Like most retreads, it has drawn a lot of “can’t be as good as the original” scorn from superfans. I, for one, am in wait and see mode.

AbNo — November 4, 2008 @ 2:31 pm

I’m…. going to go vomit now.

I wonder if they will have a refrigerator on hand to hide from photon torpedoes.

And I haven’t even watched TV in about 8 years…

Paul_Is_Drunk — November 4, 2008 @ 2:45 pm

This movie gives me a lot of Lost in Space: The Movie vibes. I’ll check it out second weekend if I hear good things.

H4p10 — November 4, 2008 @ 3:04 pm

From the pics, this movie is going to be incredibly gay

ack — November 4, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

@H4p10:
From the pics, this movie is going to be incredibly FABULOUS!

Rocko — November 4, 2008 @ 4:14 pm

Needs more eyebrows…

It’s like Spock has had a facelift and a clean shirt. As for Kirk, he has a lot to live up to.

outofocus — November 4, 2008 @ 6:34 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

vanvelding — November 6, 2008 @ 12:32 am

@H4p10: First good thing I’ve heard about it.

Also waiting and seeing. Setting my enthusiasm to ’shut the fuck up.’

Vipershot — November 19, 2008 @ 11:45 am

You know Spock has a kid in the new movie right?? Born with 3 ears! A left ear, a right ear and a final front ear! XD

Camiam321 — October 22, 2008 @ 4:49 pm

Have to say, I’m really not excited for this movie. I’m not trolling here, but after falling in love with the book… the trailer just seems like a fanboy’s misinterpretation of the tone that Alan Moore established. It’s like Snyder’s trying to make the Watchmen cool, when really they are supposed to feel more like real people. Again, im not trying to piss people off… just worried that Snyder is making mistakes (changing costumes, changing the end of the movie, removing The Black Freighter, etc…)

Ben1605 — October 22, 2008 @ 5:11 pm

I have no idea what Watchmen is/are.

But I’m sure the next few comments will be full of people who do know telling me, while flaming me for my lack of knowledge about American comics originating from before I was born.

JazzyJazzyJazzHands — October 22, 2008 @ 5:12 pm

I’m not either. I like the comic, hell I enjoyed it a lot, but I dunno, I don’t think it can made into good movie now. I think if it was done in the 80s and early 90s when things were made to be gritty, hell it could have been good, but not now.

JazzyJazzyJazzHands — October 22, 2008 @ 5:18 pm

@Ben1605

It’s a gritty noir-ish visual novel based on the what-if factor, if super heroes really existed in our time, what things would be like, taking place during the Cold War and on the verge of a nuclear war.

Almost every character is a realistic version of a famous superhero, and even more fucked up than the superhero they’re based on.

Camiam321 — October 22, 2008 @ 5:27 pm

@Ben1605: hahaha true

Camiam321 — October 22, 2008 @ 5:30 pm

Yeah Jazzy’s got it right. Based on his description, Snyder seems to be trying to do his versions of current superheroes… Night Owl looks a little too much like a bad take on Nolan’s Batman, Silk Spectre looks a lot like Electra to me… the only character who looks a lot like he did in the graphic novel is Rorschach.

Paul_Is_Drunk — October 22, 2008 @ 5:31 pm

Ugh, I fell into Ben1605’s stereotype…

@JazzyJazzyJazzHands
The characters can be interpreted as analogs of popular heroes, but they were original based on the Charlton comic book character recently bought by DC. When DC wouldn’t let Alan use the character because they had plans for them, he created very similar characters.

Rorschach = The Question
Nite Owl = Blue Beetle
Dr. Manhattan = The Atom
Comedian = Peacermaker
Etc, etc, etc…

Camiam321 — October 22, 2008 @ 5:38 pm

Paul has it right pretty much, though I’d also give Alan Moore credit for taking the characters beyond their inspirations. Dr. Manhattan is much more of a living god than The Atom, because people really wouldnt be affraid of The Atom, even if he was the first super powered human to show up.

In many ways, the book is about the implications of the first real superhero showing up in history.

outofocus — October 22, 2008 @ 5:48 pm

I just reread the book since it had been more than a decade since the last time I did so. I’m not sure how I feel about the movie. There are tons of movies that have come out and/or are being made that are just ripping off great stories. Instead of the industry putting the effort into realizing these stories in ways that inspire as the books did… they just americanize it (ie: dumb down the ideas while glossing the visuals). It pisses me off that all the technology we have is often put to waste… for all the wrong reasons.

*ranty*

elzarcothepale — October 22, 2008 @ 10:16 pm

all valid points- but the only thing that I think is truly important to people who loved the novel is that when they watch it, it makes them feel the same way.
No offense to those who get bent out of shape over the loss in translation, but c’mon- you have to realize (and i’m sure you already do, in a grudging way) that most of these changes HAVE to be made. They have to be made because you can’t make a movie for purist fans. you have to broaden the scope of the film’s appeal, or it won’t get made at all. You can’t put the Black Freighter in the main body of the film because it’s an editor’s nightmare- trying to flip from one to the other- no virgin audience would be able to follow what the hell was going on, and it’ll choke the censors even at the R rating
*(if it’s done properly, amirite? Correct me if im wrong, but I was under the impression they were filming an animatic and putting on the DVD?)*
These are the handicaps that the film industry has- editing for time, and audience appeal- without them money doesn’t get made, and without the promise of a return on investment, no studio would make it.
Some of us fans would even go so far as to say: “fine! good! whatever- i’d rather it didn’t happen than have it not be the way it should be”
But I, personally, think that this would be a tragedy- think how many new readers this movie will pull in for the original novel- I’d rather have a movie that missed the mark, buy it on DVD, look at whatever cool shit comes on the Features and then re-read the book- knowing that the odds of a random person being able to talk to me about this fantastic piece of literature have just jumped- AND if they haven’t read it yet, they’ll be much more inclined. I sure as hell had no need to read “I Am Legend” until I saw the movie.

tl;dr: movies have to make compromises in order to get made- and i’d rather we see it come close and miss than just say fuck it.

Mayyday — October 22, 2008 @ 10:49 pm

@Camiam321:
>changing the end of the movie

wat

bright green — May 9, 2008 @ 9:23 am

Starwars has been getting worse since they made episode one. [ the one with jajarbinx ]. I wish they’d just stop making them and move onto something better.

Camiam321 — May 9, 2008 @ 9:28 am

I’d like to see some Expanded Universe animated movies, but George gets grumpy when he can’t top Vader. He doesn’t really like knowing that people took his ideas and refined them better than he could have.

Camiam321 — May 9, 2008 @ 9:29 am

But yeah, I think they should leave the Anakin era behind and tell some other interesting stories.

Exacerbate — May 9, 2008 @ 10:11 am

Luke kinda looks like Chase from House.

Mack — May 9, 2008 @ 10:16 am

Ever since CG arrived for star wars it got more and more computerised. This is just the inevitable arriving

“act with your eyes! The computers will do the rest!”

TrikYodz — May 9, 2008 @ 10:43 am

thats not luke you dum dum

morbo — May 9, 2008 @ 10:45 am

They look like bobble heads!

Exacerbate — May 9, 2008 @ 10:50 am

Well whoever the hell that is looks like Chase. I thought all the Star Wars movies sucked so I never followed them.

acid_monkey1 — May 9, 2008 @ 11:19 am

take back what you just said take it back you idiot if you havent seen the movies the least you could do is not talking about the characters. idiot. ajo. probably episodes 1 2 3 werent all time good but not all the movies sucked you moron.

Darthmalt — May 9, 2008 @ 12:02 pm

These look like CG versions of the clone wars animated series, which IIRC were supposed to be pretty good.

/never saw them

Jaypeezy — May 9, 2008 @ 12:43 pm

I never really cared much about the jedi stories on episode 1-3. I just like the whole clone wars thing.

goblin0 — May 9, 2008 @ 12:52 pm

The animated series was pretty damn good, to be honest it shat over episodes 1-3. That is purely due to the reduced involvement of George Lucas, whichis the same here, so hopefully it will carry the same wit and style as the clone wars series.

Also a live action series is being made with totally new characters from the universe.

Ben1605 — May 9, 2008 @ 1:28 pm

Starwars has been getting worse since they made episode one.

Of course it has. Have you never thought why Episode IV was made first? Because George Lucas couldn’t get anyone to produce the first three because they sucked so much.

goblin0 — May 9, 2008 @ 1:48 pm

Here is the trailer:

http://gizmodo.com/379190/leak.....ce-hotness

natedog — May 9, 2008 @ 2:09 pm

the trailer rocks. gracias, goblino

and also, i call bullshit on how so many people dog Ep’s 1-3. although 4-6 were teh shit, i love all 6 of them, and can’t wait for this new movie to hit

deuce — May 9, 2008 @ 2:53 pm

Episode IV was made first cuz Lucas only had a vague idea what was going to happen in I-III, actually.

And don’t forget how awesome the Clone Wars 2-DVD movie was… proof that if Lucas keeps his meaty hands out of it, some good stuff can come out of his universe.

TrikYodz — May 9, 2008 @ 3:18 pm

@ darthmalt
my cousin has the animated clone war series
and may i say
ITTS SO BADASS
really really good
MACE WINDU WHOOPS GENERAL GREIVOUS’S ASS

TGGeko — May 9, 2008 @ 3:23 pm

The animated series was epic. Greivous was truly awesome.

TrikYodz — May 9, 2008 @ 4:08 pm

the animated series of clone wars made Kitt Fisto my official favorite jedi ever

TrikYodz — May 9, 2008 @ 4:09 pm

and i fully and wholeheartedly agree w natedawg

vutterfly — May 9, 2008 @ 6:38 pm

also agree with natedog

zondron — May 12, 2008 @ 1:45 pm

star wars: clone wars was the 2d animated series, this is star wars: THE clone wars, hope it will be as better as the old one

bright green — May 1, 2008 @ 2:44 pm

See that blue mug on the window. I have one like that. x]

natedog — May 1, 2008 @ 2:46 pm

OMG!!!

when you see it
you’ll shit brix

Error401 — May 1, 2008 @ 2:52 pm

Pedobears on the bed, or the B on the TV?

natedog — May 1, 2008 @ 4:02 pm

nope.

and WTF is B?

xNephilim — May 1, 2008 @ 9:45 pm

Haha. Shat brix when I saw it. Then I was all ‘awww’

For the retarded by the foot on the ground, look in the shadows.

Phyreblade — May 2, 2008 @ 1:18 am

Ok, so seeing as how I’m severely retarded, what exactly am I missing in them there shadows that would elicit and “awww”??

pedantic — March 21, 2008 @ 12:12 pm

Mooovin’ on uuuup!

Max — March 21, 2008 @ 12:59 pm

LCD ftw

hvymetal86 — March 21, 2008 @ 8:44 pm

FUCK NO! I wouldn’t.

hvymetal86 — March 21, 2008 @ 8:45 pm

Damn hippies…