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    TheStone

    So that’s why the Jews crucified him? He was masturbating too much?

    notspamming

    No. He was undermining their comfy power structure.

    WistfulD

    No. They never actually did. He was preaching sedition, so the authorities (Romans) crucified him. However it was the Romans who could have wiped out the early church, so a different scapegoat was needed.

    TheStone

    Actually the “church” didn’t exist until around 300 AD and was created BY the Roman emperor himself. Read a book!

    jonblaze81

    First off I really hope that picture is a shop. Otherwise that particular sect is as fucked up as Islam. That being said, , you fail at history. The Jewish religious leaders had a big problem with Jesus as he was taking away from their power over the people by preaching the freedom of god as opposed to their control by their stringent rules. The Jews used the Romans in the form of Pontious Pilot (the ruling Roman in the area, think of him like a governor) to dispose of Jesus without getting their hands dirty.

    The Jewish leaders went to pilot and said that Jesus was breaking local Roman law by stating that he was preaching to not adhere (or being subversive) to Roman law. Pilot has Jesus arrested, talks to him, and realizes that Jesus was not a threat to Rome or her local authority. It just so happens that there is a Jewish festival happening when all of this is taking place. The tradition in this festival is to ask the local authorities (at the time it was the Romans) to forgive a prisoner of his crimes and release him. Pilot puts Jesus up against another prisoner who actually committed a crime and asks the crowds who they want released in relation the traditional prisoner release. The Jewish leaders demand that the other prisoner be forgiven & released while demanding that Jesus be put to death for his “crimes against Rome”. Pilot sees through the BS, but being a politician he goes with the crowds demands and releases the other prisoner. Pilot then goes on to wash his hands in front of the crowd in relation to Jesus and basically tells the Jews that “If Jesus dies, it’s on you” (paraphrased). The leaders demand Christs execution, and Pilot gives the order. Christ is ultimately put up on a stake (hands above his head, not crossed like most religions have dead wrong) and a sign is put on the stake above him in three languages (Latin, Aramaic, & Hebrew) that read “Here stands Jesus, king of the Jews” where he later dies.

    So while you did have right that he was accused of sedition, it was not by the Romans, it was by the Jews. The Jews scape-goated Jesus and had the Romans do their dirty work.

    And now you know, because “KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!”

    Dyon 86

    Well said Sir, but did you mean to say that Wistfuld failed at “fiction”?

    Jac

    How we got to that from this post I don’t know, but before we start running around resurrecting death camps you should know that that view of history as been refuted by just about every organized religion.

    “Repudiation[edit]
    As a part of Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), the Roman Catholic Church under Pope Paul VI issued the declaration Nostra Aetate (“In Our Time”), which in part repudiated the traditional belief in the collective Jewish guilt for the Crucifixion.[1] Nostra Aetate stated that, even though some Jewish authorities and those who followed them called for Jesus’ death, the blame for this cannot be laid at the door of all those Jews present at that time, nor can the Jews in our time be held as guilty. I’d love to see a citation for that view, here is wikipedia on the subject:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide

    On November 16, 1998, Church Council of Evangelical Lutheran Church in America adopted a resolution prepared by its Consultative Panel on Lutheran-Jewish Relations urging any Lutheran church presenting a Passion play to adhere to their Guidelines for Lutheran-Jewish Relations, stating that “the New Testament … must not be used as justification for hostility towards present-day Jews,” and that “blame for the death of Jesus should not be attributed to Judaism or the Jewish people.”[12][13]

    In his 2011 book, Pope Benedict XVI repudiates blaming the Jewish people, and also questions the historicity of the passage found only in the Gospel of Matthew which has the crowd saying, “Let his blood be upon us and upon our children”.[14][15]”

    Jac

    Speaking of Jesus, Jesus that post got shredded!

    This was out of place:

    I’d love to see a citation for that view, here is wikipedia on the subject:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide

    jonblaze81

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    I wasnt attacking modern Jews for what their ancestors did. That would be like calling a german kid born in 2014 a nazi because his great grandfather was.

    My point was the Jews back on Nissan 14th (Jewish Calendar) are the ones who used the Romans to kill Jesus. I don’t have any problems with modern Jews. They didn’t do it.

    RalphTheDog

    I don’t get how this is supposed to work. Doesn’t this just make it easier for a priest to jerk-off on him?

    Saborlas

    Known fake.

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