With all the gun crazy shit going on, tell me your gun experiences

So the left AND the right have been going ape shit crazy since the Newtown shootings. I’ve been shooting rifles and pistols for a few years now and don’t fear guns as much as many lefties seem to, so tell me, what experiences have you guys had with guns?

How would you describe an “assualt rifle”. This is a phrase that I giggle at every time I see it due to how ridiculous it sounds.


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    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    I can tell you from personal experience that my Glock-17 probably saved my life (and my wife with me)about six months ago. A man attempted to rob us in my car. He was entirely unprepared to be face to face with the muzzle of my weapon. He threw his hands in the air and cried “NoNoNoNoNo!” I let him run away. As for “assault weapons,” I own two guns that would fall into Feinstein’s category. I don’t see a problem with them. Their role in homicide in America is so small it’s not even a whole tenth of a percentage… Read more »

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    guest

    Guns represent the worst possible fear for a leftie. Not the idea that someone else might use a gun on them (you’re 100 times more likely to die in a car crash than by gunshot), but the idea that their own survival might be on their own hands. They fear that they will rightfully be regarded as worthless cowards if a thief breaks into their house to steal their stuff and threaten their family and all they did was to hide under the bed hoping for Mommy Government to come and save them. The very existence of guns is contrary… Read more »

    fracked again
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    That is so cute. You think you could resist a tyrannical government.

    wadewilson
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    wadewilson

    Thanks. Valuable input.

    Retard.

    fracked again
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    lol. Whatever, Deadpool.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Look up the American Revolution, Viet Nam war for just two examples of locals resisting a much more powerful military force. Happens throughout history. Some times the rebels/revolutionaries win and sometimes the military powerhouse wins.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    I don’t have to resist the whole Government.

    Just the parts that get close enough to cause harm to me and mine.

    Generally that harm is within shooting distance.

    kezia347
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    my boyfriends best friend has a permit and a bunch of guns…took us to a shooting range and showed us about gun safety and how to shoot and what not… got to shoot a .22, a 50cal, and a really big one we rented (dont ask me i dont remember what it was)… i almost got knocked on my ass from the big one and since i was wearing a v neck shirt, a casing from the .50 landed on my chest and another on my neck, but it was cool and i look at guns differently now. That is… Read more »

    Nurgen
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    Nurgen

    My gun experiences: I’ve never seen a working firearm in the hands of anyone other than police officers. Boring, eh?

    gak67
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    gak67

    I live in a country that has reasonably tight gun control – hand guns are pretty much impossible to get and you need a licence to own any sort of gun. That said, it’s a rural based economy and most farmers would have a shot gun and/or rifle and there are plenty of people with hunting rifles. Our police force do not carry side arms, although most squad cars carry lock boxes with weapons. Because guns are hard to obtain there is not much of a black market so guns are seldom used in crimes. I have never owned a… Read more »

    WhiskeyTango
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    I grew up around guns and have been firing them since I was about five. My dad collected guns and hung out with other people who collected guns, so I’ve gotten to fire a huge amount of various types from tiny handguns to a mounted .30 cal machine gun. I’ve always enjoyed shooting, but it was always drilled into me that guns were not toys and if you point a gun at someone and pull the trigger the consequences will be dire. Oddly enough, none of the guys my dad hung out with felt the need to carry a gun… Read more »

    Falbert
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    Falbert

    I grew up in a very rural part of the USA. There were always guns in the house – locked in a cabinet, but with the key in a known location at the other end of the room. My father didn’t hunt much, but I had a number of aunts and uncles that did. Most of Dad’s guns were inherited, so he didn’t use them much – they were more heirloom pieces. The two guns that saw a lot of use were the revolvers, which were used to kill the cattle and pigs that we slaughtered – one bullet to… Read more »

    A&L
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    A&L

    I have 2 shotguns and 3 rifles
    love hunting and target shooting. I live in SWNY and only 400 people in the village, i’d say over 90% have guns, stupid cuomo is making “assault weapons” illegal, if it has a pistol grip then it’s not allowed ( a brick can be an assault weapon) and only allowed to have 7 rounds in a mag. He needs to go

    Tinker
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    Tinker

    I saved 12 people from a mentally unstable guy that showed up at the animal rescue I was working at. He pulled a shotgun out of his truck, and started yelling that we had his horse, and he was there to take it back. Actually, animal control had removed the horse because it was nearly starved to death. I drew my handgun, told him to stop where he was. He swung around to aim at me, and I double tapped him, just like I had been trained. Spent the day at the police station, and was let go with no… Read more »

    hvymetal86
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    Why so many downvotes on a totally legitimate use of a firearm by a law abiding citizen to protect himself and others? It doesn’t make any sense to me.

    Tinker
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    Tinker

    I guess I should have let the guy blast away until the police got there. Considering the remote location in a very rural environment, we would have had a 45 minute wait in good weather.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Many on the left wold prefer to see a dead victim or victims rather than a dead criminal as it does not support their view that ordinary people are not capable of defending themselves utilizing a weapon. And that the only option is to wait for the police to arrive.

    HoChunk
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    What’s really great about this story is that the guy you killed was likely just as pro-gun as most of the folks posting in this thread.

    Too bad about his horse.

    Tinker
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    Tinker

    Your comment makes no sense. Criminals tend to be pro gun, because it makes their job easier.
    The discussion is controlling guns for law abiding citizens.
    Are you trolling me because I actually did defend myself within the law?

    HoChunk
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    You say I make no sense, then agree with what I said.

    What part are you having trouble with?

    Korinthian
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    I’d love to see the census that told you criminals are pro gun. Isn’t it true that guns make their job harder/riskier?

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Criminals, in general, are pro-gun control for the simple fact that it disarms potential victims and the criminals will continue to use firearms, other weapons or simply physical force. A young strong criminal is physically more than a match for just about any woman older person, male or female, and even most young , fir males, since the criminals are prepared to use violence whereas normal people are unprepared to use violence. Firearms equalize everyone a 100 pound woman or an 85 year old man can defend themselves against a 200 pound thug. Take away the firearm and those people… Read more »

    DaftGhosty
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    I’ve been around guns since I can remember. I have memories of going to the range with my dad and shooting his M1 car. I was taught gun safety since I can remember as well. And as such I treat firearms as they should be treated by anyone who owns them. As for what I own now. I have a Ar15, a Ruger P89, and a Glock 36. I also have an assortment of old single shot long guns. I have a CWP, and carry the G36 everyday where I’m legally able to carry. As for my mentality on carrying… Read more »

    ArabianShark
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    I was brought up with a very anti-weapons mentality first and foremost. As a child, I wasn’t allowed toy guns (a single exception in the mid 90’s was coerced out of my mother at the expense of several days worth of childly tears. It merited me a cap pistol that broke after one day of playing). I still failed to regard weapons as intrinsically bad. In all fairness, my mother dating a gentleman who shot clay pigeons for sport didn’t help. It wasn’t until December 2011 that I fired an actual gun (25 gauge shotgun, I think). It was at… Read more »

    hvymetal86
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    I very much appreciate your presentation of the non-firearm-owner but firearm-respecting person’s viewpoint. I’m glad that the only people voicing support for 2nd amendment rights aren’t those who own firearms. I would like to point out something in relevance to your “assault rifle” comments. You are correct in your definition of them in that to be consider such they must be capable of fully automatic fire. Semi-automatic firearms (defined by the media and democrats as assault weapons) aren’t actually assault weapons. As to your assertion that true assault weapons shouldn’t be readily available, they’re actually not. In 1986 laws were… Read more »

    WaltherKid
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    As a kid my father had an assortment of revolvers and hunting/plinking rifles. We spent a lot of time with ATVs out in the SoCal deserts so we had plenty of room to plink soda cans. In the early 2000’s a manager at my employer heard about a training class and I joined him for a day at the range. We continued to train with that school for a number of years, eventually becoming staff and in turn help teach the new folks who came to this school. The paradigm shift came when one of took a course with Sabre… Read more »

    downvotethis
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    After a lecture about always paying attention to which way the barrel is pointed and always assuming the gun is loaded, my first time squeezing a trigger was lethal to the gopher I was aiming at. I was 8 years old. Twenty five years later, I can’t even begin to contemplate how many thousands of rounds I’ve fired since then… be it plinking with .22’s, shooting silhouettes at the range with pistols, training and qualifying with several different automatic weapons as a young enlistedman, zeroing rifles at the range, shooting clay pigeons, or hunting pheasants, turkeys, deer, and elk… I… Read more »

    Anon
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    Anon

    Never owned, fired or even held a gun. Never felt the need either, and I’ve been in some pretty rough places.

    If it makes you feel safer then I have no problems about folks owning a gun. I dont really see the need for what people are classing as assault weapons, to be held by private individuals though.

    I would like to see National Service, that way we can make sure people understand and have a heathy respect firearms.

    Just my opinion you understand.

    GreedyDrunk
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    10 Years in the Military and my Firearm just became another piece of kit that could never be clean enough for inspection.

    Now that I am long out of the forces I am saving up for a Sig P229.

    I notice that a lot of people posted their experiences with firearms here without any political commentary and still got down voted. Seems silly to downvote someones experiences in this case…

    Robert Spam
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    Robert Spam

    Little road rage incident. Guy blocked my car with his and got out. When he walked to my window, I held up my pistol shaking like a leaf but never pointed it at him or fired. The thought of what would actually happen if I shot a guy that turned out to be unarmed frightens me to this day. Never the less, he followed me to work where I was arrested for having a gun and pulling it on someone. Lost my job that day too. I was lucky I could find someone to bail me out as I was… Read more »

    hvymetal86
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    If you were arrested for just having the gun, you weren’t carrying it legally in the first place. That part is totally your own fault and avoidable.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    You would have been much better ff getting your ass beat by the road rage idiot?

    hvymetal86
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    I’ve grown up around guns somewhat. From cub/boy scouting to my dad having a scoped bolt action .22 LR and a 12 gauge pump. I’ve had my concealed carry permit for nearly 5 years now although I’ve only starting carrying everywhere it’s legal to do so in the last 8 months. My fiancee is getting her permit very shortly for which I am grateful as myself and my firearm cannot be with her every time she leaves the house. I have a Mosin-Nagant, TT-33 Tokarev, Mossberg 500, and I’m just about done building an AR-15. As far as “assault weapons”… Read more »

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    Two things, first, to the guy who thinks the idea of resisting a tyrannical government is “cute,” currently about a third of our population in this country is armed. That’s a third of 313,914,040, or roughly 104,000,000, making for what generally works out to the worlds largest potential standing army (compare, for instance to Russia, currently the worlds largest, with 1,027,000 active troops). Secondly, and more to the point, this entire debate boils down to the question of whether government should have an exclusive monopoly on deadly force. Based on historical examples, that course is the road to disaster. I… Read more »

    fracked again
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    Grow some balls and don’t be anonymous. I promise, Obama won’t come for you in the night. (BTW, learn how the respond button works) Gun laws were loosened for everybody but Jews and Gypsies in Nazi Germany, despite what you might have heard.

    I am a gun owner. But I’m not a paranoid whackjob that fantasizes he can be Rambo.

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    It’s not fear or reprisal, I just don’t have the sort of ego where I comment enough to justify either my name, or putting up a cute photo. I’m sorry if this denies you the opportunity to harass me on a more personal level. I apologize if I don’t spend enough time here to automatically hunt down a “respond” button. I have a life. I honestly don’t know if you do or not, but I can tell you have mistaken contempt and sarcasm for rational discourse. You also seem very willing to write off people who disagree with you as… Read more »

    fracked again
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    I’m so sorry that I hurt your feelings. You seriously think that somebody would harass your ‘nym if you took two minutes of your precious time to make an account? You may be kinda paranoid. But don’t let me take more of your precious time. Gotta check the use by dates in the bomb shelter food stash, I understand. Go ahead. (That was a joke, anon. I don’t literally believe you have a bomb shelter. I just think it is funny to say. Glad you found the reply button. The internet can be a tricky thing.) I find your position… Read more »

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    My my. That’s quite a mouthful. Since Perhaps you could use your google-fu to look up places like Vietnam, Operation Barbarosa, and other failures of tanks, planes and other modern technology against determination and sheer weight of numbers. Technology has limitations, especially when you can’t be assured of the loyalty of your troops. I’m not sure how many people in uniform today could fire on their fellow citizens, but the people I served with would be a coin-toss. If you think ridicule is a weapon of any meaning to me, you’re mistaken. I’m a 41-year-old Infantry Marine. Your internet tough… Read more »

    fracked again
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    Internet tough guy? Lol, I’m just another asshole in a sea of assholes. And you are actually making my point for me. The US military isn’t coming after us, even if your paranoia suggests that half of it might. Even a partial nut like you knows that the conspiracy theory believers are complete nuts.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    I may have to invent another interweb name to give this another thumbs up.

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    Wasn’t really my point at all. My point was that at least half of the military would refuse an unlawful order requiring them to fire on citizens. The other half? Drones who would shoot their mother if they got an order. That really doesn’t say anything either way about the person giving the order. Sadly, not every conspiracy out there is a hoax. There’s the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. www.npr.org/programs/morning/features/2002/jul/tuskegee/ There’s Watergate (guessing you can find that one). There’s the FBI COINTELPRO program www.monitor.net/monitor/9905a/jbcointelpro.html …and a few others. The discussion has taken a sharp turn out of subject, so I’ll nudge… Read more »

    #makecasemdsgreatagain
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    glad I could help

    fracked again
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    I grew up target shooting and killing pest animals on the family farm. Target shooting wasn’t plinking at cans on a fence or shooting holes in pieces of paper, it was tossing wormy apples into a creek, leading the target, squeezing the trigger, and as fast as you could, pull the bolt back, chamber a round and knock the apple back under water. Over and over, box after box. Most gun ranges are boring to me. Hey, look at that. I can hit a piece of paper that doesn’t move. I’ve shot rabbits, squirrels, and deer for food, and skunks,… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    I cry bullshit. I can tell you the caliber of every good shot I ever made in my life. You talk about a .227 with a scope? Try again. Unless you are talking about some obscure 5.8 mm or a really old weapon from before the first world war, you made that up. .227 IS the outside diameter of a number of .22 caliber bullets. But they are not ever referred to as .227 and you would know that if you were actually a shooter. And it is PS90. The P90 is the select fire non-legal in the US for… Read more »

    fracked again
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    Huh. So I got the rifle type wrong, despite not having . You really care that much? I haven’t hunted in a few years, as I said, and haven’t shot that rifle in about 20 years. Please excuse me for my honest mistake. I typed in some numbers that I thought were right, saw that 227 came up in a search and didn’t bother looking further. Looking a bit further, it looks like .223 is what I meant. I could be wrong. Do you need me to drive to my parent’s house and check? And I got the PS90 wrong.… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    First off. The phrase in debate is “assault weapon”. The phrase used in EVERY add you showed is “assault rifle” a serious distinction. The reason it is a distinction is that ‘assault rifles’ are fully automatic weapons and already heavily regulated and etc. The liberals and apparently you want to conflate semi-automatic rifles with machine guns in order to make them scarier. *Exactly as I said.* AND you are making claims about firearms and shooting and claiming growing up shooting with all kinds of weapons. Yet you don’t remember the caliber of the rifle you used to make the shot… Read more »

    ArabianShark
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    “First, nobody needs a folding stock unless they are trying to conceal a rifle, or need to keep a gun close to their body, perhaps as they move through a building. Second, nobody needs more than a few bullets in any gun unless they are a really bad shot.” I will, for the sake of argument, agree with that, even if I don’t see things as black and white. There’s another point I’d rather make. Nobody needs a car that can go faster than the speed limit, but that doesn’t stop people from buying expensive sports cars, which is legal.… Read more »

    fracked again
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    There are limits to what is considered road legal, so I don’t think that is a good argument. You agree to keep your lawn maintained to a certain level if you move into a neighborhood with a home owners association. You have agreed to a contract, and must follow through, even if it seems silly. If you move into a community with codes requiring that your lawn at least not be up to your knees, that is just part of living in a society. So, not a good argument. And I need my 50 inch flatscreen. That is an absolute… Read more »

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    You talk a lot about what people need or don’t need. It is not the place of you, me or even the government to determine what we need. It is the Bill of Rights not the Bill of Allowances, Entitlements, Privileges or Needs.

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Bravo.

    Sin Eater
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    Sin Eater

    I have owned a shotgun and a .22 rifle since I was nine and inherited them from my father. Shot them every so often, squirrel hunting or rabbit hunting. I have worked at one job or another since I was 14 and basically didn’t have time to hunt or shoot a whole lot. When I was 19 I was embroiled in a situation where a biker who was entirely too drunk to ride kept knocking over his Harley. I offered to put his bike on a trailer and give him a ride to wherever. He took offense and waved a… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
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    I’ve fired a couple of handguns and a few rifles but none of them compare to the satisfaction of sawing up tree trunks with a chainsaw. If you’ve never done it then you should, it’s an immensely enjoyable activity and you actually end up with something useful instead of a piece of paper with bulletholes in it and a lot of spent casings.

    Korinthian
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    Also, you can probably defend yourself from burglars with a chainsaw, or a chainsawed piece of wood.

    Goldfinger
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    I just imagined the face of some twit trying to force my front door open with a crowbar when he suddenly hears a chainsaw starting behind that same door. MMD 😀

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Great idea. Until it actually happens. A chainsaw is an ungainly weapon on its best day. A steel pipe or a crowbar can beat a chainsaw based on speed and dexterity. And if you are too squeamish to shoot someone, you are too squeamish to pick bits of intestine out of your hair after you ‘accidentally’ swiped a chunk out of that burglar’s abdomen. And can you imagine how that will stack up in court? The District Attorney will ask what exactly you thought you needed that ‘assault weapon chainsaw’ for in front of the jury and you will be… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
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    I never said anything about attacking anyone with a chainsaw. I said using a chainsaw was enjoyable.

    Even coming down to that, you’re assuming that the final objective is to kill the other person. Surely scaring them off is better? A chainsaw is big, loud and highly visible – much scarier than some inconspicuous gun, regardless of whether or not it’s a better weapon. Do you really believe that whatever a burglar would pick up in your house is worth his or her life?

    Oh America.

    Goldfinger
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    Same goes for chopping some firewood with an axe 🙂

    EmilyMI
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    EmilyMI

    Personally I do not believe in guns personally, and really think its sad that we live in a society where we need guns to feel safe just going outside! I can kind of understand having ‘some types’ of guns to protect us but honestly who really needs an assault rifle for anything? There is no one reason that I can think that that an assault rifle would be needed for anything.

    Korinthian
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    I’m going to upthumb you preemptively because people who don’t like guns around here must be censored(!), apparently.

    EmilyMI
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    EmilyMI

    I am from the US, and OMG I don’t like guns? Something must be wrong with me right? Sorry if I believe in a more passive way with dealing with our own personal self or the worlds issues.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    You have the mentality of a serf. Better men than you ensure that you are relatively safe.

    fracked again
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    Damn your voice of sanity!

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Did you read the article about the woman out jogging who was eaten by a mountain lion? How about the mother and child who were attacked in their home? www.realtree.com/hunting/articles-and-how-to/outdoor-news/mountain-lion-invades-home-kills-dog What about the people who are attacked by bears? latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/10/female-bear-attacks-woman-north-of-ojai-as-she-walks-her-dogs.html Ever try to shoot a pack of wolves tearing into the rectum and abdomen of one of your young calves while it is still alive? www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bgHYxQw74Y Coyotes actually live in urban areas as well as rural areas nowadays. Two coyotes can clean out an entire neighborhood’s cats and dogs in a month. Leaving little steaming piles of what used to… Read more »

    ep
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    ep

    “I like guns! I like blowing things up.”

    -Adam Lanza

    RepairmanJackX
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    RepairmanJackX

    I come from a rural area, where guns are common. My aunt’s biker-boyfriend accidentally blew his head off with a shotgun “defending” his home. My mom’s boyfriend (after her separation from my dad) was murdered in his own house with a gun. I grew up with my dad. My friends were all deer hunters. I’ve handled plenty of shotguns and 30-06 rifles and gone target shooting with .22 pistols and rifles. Yet, I’ve witnessed a friend’s rifle discharge and blow a hole in his roof. I was upstairs at a friends house when his pistol discharged accidentally and left me… Read more »

    downvotethis
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    Wow. Having never been around an accidental discharge in my life, I can safely say that we don’t hang around the same kind of people.

    Luke Magnifico
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    www.newser.com/story/164899/boys-kill-baby-in-stroller-while-robbing-mom-cops.html

    Nope, no gun problem there, those prepubescent children would have found some way to get a gun, it’s not like criminals obey the law.

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    The UK just switched to stabbing instead. Now you have to be 18 to buy a silverware set because it contains a butter knife.

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Well Here we go. 1. No one under the age of 21 in the United States may own or carry a handgun legally. (They broke a law) 2. Killing people is illegal. (they broke a law) 3. Robbing people is illegal. (they broke a law) 4. Threatening someone with a deadly weapon is illegal. (they broke a law) 5. Assault and battery is illegal. (they broke a law) 6. Leaving the scene of a crime is illegal. (they broke a law) 7. The gun was no doubt stolen. (they broke a law) So what law would they decide to follow?… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
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    It would have been different because a gun is a ranged weapon. You can overpower or run away from a 10 year old with a knife fairly easily. A 10 year old with a gun isn’t much different from anyone else with a gun.

    Besides, how could they have illegally acquired that gun and broken all those laws if someone they knew hadn’t owned it legally in the first place?

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    Clearly, you don’t spend a lot of time around moms with strollers, or around ten-year-olds. Either way, she was facing TWO assailants, one of which appears to have been 17. She could not have run away from either one of them on her best day. On the other hand, she could have, if properly armed, gunned both of them down. Guns exist in America. We can’t actually put that genie back in the bottle. We MIGHT someday know if their weapon was black market purchased, or stolen from a legal owner. In the meantime, I still, don’t see where I… Read more »

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    w4rb4dg3r (UID# 6722) Poorly-rated. Like or Dislike: 1 4 March 23, 2013 at 5:34 pm Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see. My son is 14 and is on the school basketball team. He weighs a hundred pounds less than I. We wrestle a lot. He has friends who have been trained in various martial arts for several years. Some of that has rubbed off on him. Wrestling with him (I am 5’7? and 250 pounds and can out lift him every day with weights) is a tough thing. I was mugged when I drove for Pizza… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    My son is 14 and is on the school basketball team. He weighs a hundred pounds less than I. We wrestle a lot. He has friends who have been trained in various martial arts for several years. Some of that has rubbed off on him. Wrestling with him (I am 5’7″ and 250 pounds and can out lift him every day with weights) is a tough thing. I was mugged when I drove for Pizza Hut as a college student by a 16 year old. The cops thought it was funny until the guy was brought in. He was 5’10”… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    I notice you exclude the 17 year old from the argument. Nice choice.
    They could have stolen it from a police car. They could have stolen it from a pawn shop.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    What are you talking about?

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Exactly why guns are needed for defense. A physically weak person can match a much stronger person.

    ep
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    ep

    Have you ever used your gun to pleasure yourself? Betcha have 🙂

    WHOOPI GOLDBERG
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    WHOOPI GOLDBERG

    IM A THUG A RULE YOU ALL IM WHOOPI GOLDBERG YOU WILL ALL BOW TO ME I HAVE ALL THE GUNS I WIN POOP ON YOU

    ep
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    ep

    IM A THUG A RULE YOU ALL IM WHOOPI GOLDBERG YOU WILL ALL BOW TO ME I HAVE ALL THE GUNS I WIN POOP ON YOU!

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    so is this whole thread the ‘ask questions later’ part that comes after ‘shoot first’

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    No. That is on another thread.
    This is the people who don’t like guns versus people who believe in self defense.

    Jack
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    Jack

    No, this seems more like a discussion where the reasoning trends towards either thinking that since criminals break laws, everyone should have the right to own military weaponry. And if one doesn’t agree, then being robbed/murdered/rapped is the fault of victim.

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Just for fun…
    Are you aware that the amount of violent assaults and murders that do not involve firearms outnumber the firearm related assaults and murders eight to one?
    Are you aware that statistically somewhere in the United States a woman uses a firearm to defend herself about thirty times a day?
    And absolutely no one brought up military weaponry.
    We are talking about civilian rifles and shotguns.
    None of these are fully automatic and no mention of grenades or rocket launchers or nukes has been made.

    WHOOPI GOLDBERG
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    WHOOPI GOLDBERG

    I AM THE KING YOU WILL BOW TO ME

    Anon
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    Anon

    I think its very clear from this thread that if youre anti gun you are going to be down voted.

    What this boils down to is a culture thing, Americans dont think they are able to function without access to firearms, think baby and dummy, try to take them away and you get a screaming snotty mess that has a tantrum.

    Theres no reasoning with them. So why bother.

    WHOOPI GOLDBERG
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    IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM THIS THREAD THAT I RULE YOU ALL AND I WILL DESTROY YOU, YOU ARE DOOMED!! YOU WILL BOW TO ME WHOOPI GOLDBERG I AM THE KING!

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    So if I understand you correctly, you wish to decide for other people what they may own and use to protect themselves, while SIMULTANEOUSLY bemoaning about the tyranny of the majority on this board.

    You have just personally justified the 2nd Amendment, which is the instrument by which we negate tyranny by the majority.

    Korinthian
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    Because the gun is the tool which gays have and will use to get equal treatment in USA.

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Well… Technically no one is saying people can’t be gay. They *are* refusing to let them have a religion based ceremony to agree to live together. I honestly believe that if gays were allowed to be married they will soon regret it. I have been down that road and it is not for everyone. I kinda think that civil unions are the best road for the future. No more involvement between church and state. Make it so you can set the union for a number of years and make it renewable. No more divorce. No more shooting (or cutting up… Read more »

    Korinthian
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    You clearly don’t understand the issue. Marriage is not the property of the religious, and doesn’t require a religious ceremony.

    wulfgar0351
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    Nope, but it does tend to send retarded rednecks with baseball bats running home to mama in short order.

    Anon
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    You do not understand me correctly. IF people were willing to have a constructive discussion about this issue then I would be all for it, but you and the others like you are not. All we get are fanciful stories about how people have been saved by owning a gun, and from what I have read on this thread, shooting people, and the laughable Amendment/Bill of Rights rubbish that gets dragged out and flogged to death like some poor abused horse every single time. The world has changed, isnt it about time The United States of America caught up? Or… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    TLDR Version: When the citizens of your country can mind their own business without asking for US foreign aid dollars and military help then they can *still* mind their own business. When the Navy Seals or the Army Rangers are not ever sent to rescue your citizens and politicians from aggression by enemies foreign or domestic then you can *still* mind your own business. Your country enjoys prosperity and freedom from the rule of Communism or Naziism exactly because of the fighting spirit of Americans. WE are the tip of the spear that eliminates terrorists and WE are the shield… Read more »

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    Yes the magnanimous spirit of the USA, you waited until Europe was in flames and only one Nation stood before Nazi Germany, then gave the UK arms and troops which they only finished paying back the USA for a few years ago. If you can say nothing thing for America at least you know how to make a “buck”, even when its at the expense of an ally. You are not the tip of the spear, youre the petulant little boy that stomps around telling everyone how wonderful you are. Whilst knocking down the ants nest. This is one of… Read more »

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
    Godwin’s law involves calling someone a Nazi or comparing them to Hitler. I did neither one.

    -1 for being wrong.
    AAAAANNNNDDD we get involved in wars because countries populated with wankers like you beg us to rescue them when they are being invaded by Muslims or Fascists or Communists or whatever. We have spent *DEVASTATING* amounts of our money and time and people to defend the rights of wankers like you to not be under the heel of some truly depraved individuals in the past.

    wulfgar0351
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    wulfgar0351

    Okay. Since you were “brilliant” enough to open the can of worms that is “modern” Europe into the discussion, along with the founders the United States. I’ll address both for you. First, every European economic and social success, and success is debatable, has only been possible because most of Europe hasn’t actually had to PAY for their defense in the last half-a-century. Believe me, I’m all for us abandoning Europe to the tender mercies of their nearest neighbors, ditto with foreign aid dollars. We’ve got better things to spend our money on. As for the framers of the Constitution, here… Read more »

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    America is Governed by self-interest, which is why they station troops in Europe, because they were afraid of a strong USSR, not because you wanted to help Europe.

    This world has been developing quite nicely with out the USA for millennia.

    The truth about America? It was founded by traitors, they swore an oath of allegiance to their King, which they broke, and for why? Because they didnt want to pay taxes.

    So basically the founding fathers were either selfish traitors or proto communists.

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    The only thing Europe as been doing for thousands of years is killing Europeans and the populations of other continents over the whose version of Jesus is correct, and you’re right, it didn’t take a lick of assistance from the USA, until someone had to put a stop to it. The USSR hasn’t been a threat for better than 20 years. In all that time, you’re right, we should have abandoned you, taken our billions of dollars in defensive material, foreign aid, and local spending by military personnel and booked. What will happen next? I can’t say for sure, but… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
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    You’ll watch us burn? That’s funny, since we’re not currently engaged in land wars with volatile islamist nations.

    wulfgar0351
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    Nope. No active war going on in Europe. Your own legislators are handing it over without a fight. Also, I’m amused that you look around, see what’s happening “now,” and are satisfied that everything’s fine. Sarajevo looked just fine in 1984. Good luck.

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    And according to the Bureau of Statistics, an average of 600+ US citizens per year are killed in firearm related accidents, with the majority of those victims being school-aged children.

    Just a tiny percentage of the population. Nothing to really worry about.

    I wonder what they would say if they could post here.

    fracked again
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    “Braaaains! Braaaaains!”

    Because they would probably be zombies if they were dead and had something to say.

    w4rb4dg3r
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    w4rb4dg3r

    Yes. And that number has grown monstrously large since the liberal policy of refusing children any familiarization with weapons during schools. The Eddy Eagle program and other programs made great platforms for teaching young children that firearms are not toys and that there are rules for dealing with them safely. Just as there are rules for crossing the road safely and for starting a fire in the fireplace safely and for cooking and for everything else. More children drown in swimming pools every year than are killed in firearm accidents. MANY MANY more children are killed by medical malpractice in… Read more »

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    So, you’re approach to conflict resolution is violence?

    Allllllllllllllllrighty then!

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    My Grand-Father was killed with a 12 Gauge Shotgun at point blank range when he came home from work. He was killed because his wife wanted a divorce, but since divorce was an unforgivable sin, it was not an option. She would go to hell. Murder was of course, completely forgivable. Given this, I was raised to be more afraid of good practicing Catholics, then I was of guns, although we never had one in the house. Tiki as you know I’m in the U.S. Army. I carried a M9 (Beretta Pistol – POS), an M4 – 5.56 Nato every… Read more »

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    i never had a good catholic in the house either man good for you

    jburge
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    I grew up around guns, all members of my family,Aunts,uncles ,cousins, every body in the family had guns and hunted. I am totally familiar and comfortable around guns. I had an occasion to protect my neice form a very abusive ex-husband. He had been in and out of jail for threats and trying to take me with his hands,(big mistake) former open martial arts competition, and self defense. He showed up with a gun screaming and yelling he was going to kill her and the rest of us. When he tried kicking the door in I met him with a… Read more »

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    lotta killers in this here thread
    braggin bout their killin
    youd sooner turn the country
    into the o k corrral
    than realize that when everyone has guns
    justice wont belong to the righteous
    but to the quickest draw
    and next time you want to tell us about
    the killin you done
    write a fuckin rap song

    wulfgar0351
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    It might be a good time to look up at the original post, the one that asked about people’s personal experiences. I’m pretty sure that every one of them would have preferred not NOT have gone through what they went through. I can tell you from the instance when I had to draw my weapon, and decided NOT to fire, that it’s kind of like whether or not you’ve had sex. If you haven’t experienced it yourself, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

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    blah blah ‘he needed killin’ blah blah
    yeah man thanks for sharing

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    WHAR TITTY PICTURES?!?

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    Hitler liked guns too!

    Just sayin’

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    He also liked titties.

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    Titties and guns, guns and titties.

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    How cool would it be if a girl had guns for titties?

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    “Suck on these, Bub.” BLAM BLAM!

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    But, I digress.

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    Oh, wait…. that’s me.

    SORRY!

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    Your hobby kills children.

    But, you knew that already.

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    Tonight, at midnight, I’m gonna post Walt Whitman’s Song of Myself line by line by line.

    BE THERE!!!

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    you could spam a lot smarter by doing this as replies to others tldr posts further back

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    COOL!

    Thanks for the tip, Brah!

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    My takeaway from this thread is that gun owners are also pro censorship.

    Just look at the number of downvoted posts.

    Hitler liked guns and censorship.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    Many of the Downvoted threads are completely random nonsense like

    “im a thug”

    BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!

    Tonight, at midnight, I’m gonna post Walt Whitman’s Song of Myself line by line by line.

    BE THERE!!!

    You really need to take a step back. Look at what is really going on, not what you “think” is happening.

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    Thou shalt not kill (unless it’s self defense and therefore legal under the laws of man).

    -Exodus 20:13 (NRA version)

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
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    Exodus 20:13 Thou shalt not murder.

    The Bible is pretty clear that killing is fine for all sorts of reasons.

    Korinthian
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    The bible is pretty clear that murder is fine for all sorts of reasons, too.

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