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    GreedyDrunk
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    First let me say I have a firearms licence, so I am invested in certain privileges not being taken away.

    That being said is the dailyanarchist (where this picture comes from)really a source we want to be citing? Especially given how he came by his numbers?

    Also I would be totally happy if we didnt have pro and anti gun control pictures posted every few days until a Republican enters office.

    Nurgen
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    Nurgen

    Tiki has worked out that he gets more traffic if he posts stuff that people will argue over… I suspect that’s the only reason for it. Can’t say that I blame him.

    HoChunk
    Member

    Any time somebody provides a link to back up their argument –but not before running it through tinyurl.com/ in order to hide the original site name– you are guaranteed a stroll down Bullshit Lane.

    Grendel
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    Grendel

    Those numbers are interesting.
    Where do the states come from….?

    Enemy_Of_the_cause
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    Enemy_Of_the_cause

    Perfect picture for the image. You know what stops criminals? Random dudes with guns in their pants, walking around with the barrel pointed at their dicks.

    Not trained professionals. Unflinching dicks.

    derek
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    derek

    trained unflinching super dicks

    Godfry
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    Godfry

    Your dick is on the outside of your thigh?

    Might want to see a cosmetic surgeon about that birth defect.

    Enemy_Of_the_cause
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    Enemy_Of_the_cause

    Just the tip…

    derek
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    derek

    have to wrap it around a couple of times, you don’t?

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    It is called cross draw appendix carry. ( I know the appendix is on the other side but still)
    Not unheard of. Not blazingly common. People of smaller stature might find it more comfortable than some of the other options. Most people I know do not use appendix carry because there is the potential to shoot your leg or crotch.

    TsJ
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    What I find interesting is that it says “keep civilians armed” as if someone had plans to disarm civilians. Outside of the NRA’s paranoid fantasies, no one in government envisions completely disarming the citizenry, just registering and regulating guns like we do cars, trucks and other dangerous things.

    When the premise is delusional, the numbers are irrelevant.

    derek
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    derek

    you mean like chicago and d.c.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Bullshit. State legislatures are proposing bans and confiscations left and right, well left and farther left. Assorted members of Congress are working on bills to ban dozens of weapons and DoJ has a report which states that bans will be ineffective without confiscation. Just because they are lying to us doesn’t mean we should believe them.

    faithless
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    faithless

    Spurious definition of ‘left’, old chap. I know over there it’s hard for people to understand that economic and political freedoms are inextricably intertwined with the fetishisation of small arms, nevertheless there is no ineluctable link. It’s perfectly possible for people on both sides of the political spectrum to conclude that unrestricted access to firearms in the US is a bad thing, and from there to decide that restrictions are an acceptable thing.

    outlanderssc
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    How do you equate “dozens of weapons” with “completely disarming the citizenry”? Do you realize that there are more than four thousand individual models of firearm sold in the US, and you’re bitching about a few dozen?

    Plus, politicians “propose” stuff all the time, less than 1% actually become law. And DoJ reports are worthless without laws being enacted.

    I don’t know about you, but I can defend my home just fine with a plain 12 gauge pump, an I’m not worried that anybody is going to try and take it away.

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    One state has a law pending that will ban all tube fed pump shotguns

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    nothing..?
    No reply to that?
    The state is Colorado.

    maxcw
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    That’s because the rampages that are stopped by the police are in schools where helpless kids are gunned down, not adults who are going to fight back by any means necessary.

    Wildman7316
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    Wildman7316

    Think about that for a moment. If the Loon perpetrating the Massacre faced the Possibility of somebody ELSE being armed (Teacher, Custodian…) would they even TRY it?

    faithless
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    faithless

    Think about what you are saying. You would rather live in a society where teachers must be prepared to lay down their lives and/or kill intruders rather than one in which access to weapons is restricted. Have you asked the teachers about this?

    Already the rest of the world is saying “Wait. There are parts of the US where they have to have armed guards in schools? What kind of fucked up shit is that?”

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    Just maybe the rest of the world is saying “You mean the liberals want armed guards at the bus stations and armed guards at the banks and armed guards at museums but…you know…FUCK those children. They aren’t that important anyway”

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    In all honesty my children go to school in a state where teachers are not only allowed but encouraged to be CCW. I personally believe that if a teacher isn’t of high enough moral character that I can trust her with my children’s safety and well being I definitely don’t want that teacher dicking around in my children’s heads.

    outlanderssc
    Member

    Maybe we should just eliminate the police entirely since they’re obviously ineffective and replace them with civilian posses like in the old west.

    DrEvil
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    DrEvil

    Every mass shooting in the last thirty years or more has been in gun free zones. Next time a mass killing takes place at a gun shop, gun show, or firing range you may have a point.

    Korinthian
    Member

    Imagine what could be accomplished if we made the entire USA a gun free zone.

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    korinthian we have had this conversation.
    The border with Mexico and the border with Canada preclude any such declaration. There are already hundreds of entire groups of people who cross those borders illegally every year. To imagine that one or two of those wouldn’t choose to make money selling a rifle or handgun when they get here and the price is inflated because of a moronic weapons ban is just imbecilic. People risk death running heroin and cocaine inside their bodies….Why would they not risk running a rifle across in a backpack?

    Korinthian
    Member

    Sorry, I don’t tend to remember people without a name.

    faithless
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    faithless

    Again, same thing. You want to turn the whole of the US into a place which is as problematic for sociopathic/suicidal killers as a gun show, and for the same reason? What is wrong with you people?

    outlanderssc
    Member

    “Every mass shooting in the last thirty years or more has been in gun free zones”? The 2012 Aurora shooting was in a theater, not a gun free zone. The 5/20/2012 in Seattle was in a coffee shop, not a gun free zone. The 8/3/2010 shootings in Manchester, Connecticut were in a beer warehouse, not a gun free zone. The 3/29/2009 killings in Carthage, North Carolina were in a nursing home, not a drug free zone. And while I don’t know of any at a gun show, there have been plenty of cases of armed, trained police officers being gunned… Read more »

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    The Aurora theater banned concealed carry. Signs were evident on the doors even in the media shots of the theater after the shooting. Seattle coffee shop also banned concealed carry. Beer warehouse banned employees even having guns in the parking lot in their cars. I have no information on the old folks home but I imagine that they didn’t allow decrepit old people to have firearms in their rooms. Fairchild Air Force Base and Fort Hood are both gun free zones. All arms not in the hands of active on duty MPs are locked in an armory. To retrieve your… Read more »

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    Bravo.

    slimnoche
    Member

    This is just dumb. How do you know half of those 14.3 where not armed, but just unable to stopped gunman?

    Wildman7316
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    Wildman7316

    Because those Places which averaged out to 14.3 were all “Gun Free Zones”. Schools are by Law. Virginia Tech had a very Strict “No Gun” Policy, as did the Theater in Arvada. The Nutjob in Arvada did NOT go to the Theater nearest his Home, nor the the Biggest in the Area, both of THOSE allowed Concealed Carry. But NOT the one where he did his Deed.

    Enemy_Of_the_cause
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    Enemy_Of_the_cause

    Are there signs up directing the crazies to the gun free zones? How crazy is crazy.

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    You have obviously never met crazy. Crazy can be crafty, like a meth head that evades police for weeks and can keep on cooking even though he sometimes can’t remember to unzip his pants to take a piss. Crazy can plan and use strategy. The Main Stream Media reported that the nutbag in the Aurora shootings had planned it for weeks before he acted. He reportedly had scouted out the location ahead of time so he know where to park and which theater he wanted to attack. He booby trapped his apartment and had back up firearms when his crappy… Read more »

    Saborlas
    Member

    Total amount of shooting rampages stopped by armed civilians: ZERO.

    ColdWarBatman
    Member

    I was going to make a pun about the civilians having arms but it wasn’t worth it…

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    Don’t be QUITE so full of shit. 11/15/1995 – Jamie Rouse used a .22-caliber semi-automatic rifle to fire indiscriminately inside Richland High School in Lynnville, Tennessee. He killed 2 people before being tackled by a football player and a coach. 2/2/1996 – Barry Loukaitis entered Frontier Middle School in Moses Lake, Washington with a rifle and two handguns. He killed 3 people before the Gym teacher, Jon Lane grabbed the rifle and wrestled the gunman to the ground. 10/1/1997 – Luke Woodham put on a trench coat to conceal a hunting rifle and entered Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi.… Read more »

    TGGeko
    Member

    My[Gun]Space

    ColdWarBatman
    Member

    Fucking exactly

    Eainsdad
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    Eainsdad

    You Don’t Have to Read The Comments….



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