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    crewmanguy
    Member

    Whoever wrote this should know that Congress includes Senators & Representatives. Right on with the term limits though. I’d also add that Congress has to abide by the same laws and benefits that citizens do. Meaning they would lose their Congressional Health Care benefits and pensions in favor of Obamacare and Social Security.

    Anonymoose
    Member

    We’re voting in a representative democracy, not sending Santa our fucking wishlists.

    bytehead
    Member

    86% want Obama gone? Really?

    They want the borders closed now? Why not about 500 years ago? Oh, that would exclude the fuckers that wrote this!

    Also, the Bill of Rights IS part of the Constitution!

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    It would but it would also have prevented the whole country from being built. America is more than just dirt. To Americans anyway. The injins were just living in the dirt and killing each other over it too.

    Close the borders now because open immigration is poisonous to current economic conditions.

    LordDoug
    Member

    [citation needed]

    Nurgen
    Member
    Nurgen

    Apparently you think that speaking languages other than English is also poisonous to current economic conditions… whoops no, that’s just some racism accidentally slipping out.

    Enemyofthecause
    Guest
    Enemyofthecause

    I absolutely HATE to agree with Magnus for once, but…

    Put aside his usual bigotry, and realize that 12.5 million Americans are out of work at the moment. Bringing in more people of any kind, foreign or domestic, is not what the country badly needs. Tighter borders for a few years isn’t the worst idea ever, neither is telling the parents on those reality shows that having 14 kids isn’t in everyone’s best interest.

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    What’s to stop an American citizen getting a job that a Mexican would get otherwise? Low pay and personal pride? If a Mexican can make enough to survive mowing lawns and painting fences then so can the average American. The only difference is to a Mexican enough to survive is enough to afford a home and food for the table, to an American it means enough to run 3 cars, get cable TV piped in and pay Mexicans to mow your lawn.

    Why can’t you just mow your own damn lawns?

    jonblaze81
    Member

    Actually it is. Do you know how difficult it is to provide goods and or services to an entire population who immigrate here and yet refuse to learn the local language? When you immigrate, you’re supposed to intergrate. Ever hear the phrase “When in Rome, do as the Romans do” That’s old school knowledge. When you enter into a new culture, you adapt to that culture. It is utter and complete bullshit thinking that we as English speaking Americans should have to learn to speak Spanish or any other language just because they haven’t bothered to learn our language. It’s… Read more »

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    America is entirely constructed on a single act of invading and completely destroying a foreign culture.

    Not that your point is wrong, I agree to a certain extent, I just enjoy the irony of your post.

    Zeku
    Member
    Zeku

    You seem like an intelligent person, Magnus. Unfortunately you use your powers to be a gigantic cunt…Maybe you’re really Magneto in disguise.

    100110110110010
    Member
    100110110110010

    Don’t even think that hard. Just downvote him on sight. Its funny seeing all his comments censored.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    16 downvotes

    from 4 IP’s this time.

    lol

    timtim
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    timtim

    I downvoted you just because you whine so much about downvoting.

    Normally I don’t because you dedication to being an ugly person is amazing.

    outlanderssc
    Member

    Comcast has 18.582 million internet customers. The idea that 16 votes would come from ONE ISP is highly plausible, that they might come from four seems downright reasonable.

    Your point?

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    OMG you are stupid

    Why would the same provider matter?

    fuck you’re just so fucking stupid

    my point is you don’t understand the initial comment and you’re a fucking loser

    just give up. this is starting to feel like I’m bludgeoning a retarded person

    outlanderssc
    Member

    Go ahead, bludgeon a retarded person – I’m durable.
    and while you’re at it, fill me in on where you get the IP information – do you have access to the server logs? Is Tiki making the IP addresses of people who vote public?

    I’m not surprised that the software saves the IP addresses to verify that you haven’t voted before, but I didn’t think that info would be shared with the general public.

    xpartsx
    Member

    electoral-vote.com/

    Yup, obama is still going to win.

    Rotatebilly
    Member

    It could still swing either way, the problem is that there are too many people who are too set in their predjudices foe either party they aren’t even willing to examine the policies, they just vote on principle.

    bastet44
    Guest
    bastet44

    i would rather deal with Obama than the other moronic twit. that brainless asshole makes a 2nd rate Las Vegas used car salesman look honest!!!!!!!

    absent
    Member

    Don’t you mean, mormonic twit?

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    Get over your conditioning.

    Basically you have a guy who is blasted by every media outlet save one and still looks like the best option vs.

    A propaganda reliant failure who is finishing off a term so disastrous his campaign is spending most of it’s time apologizing for the last 4 years.

    rylock
    Member
    rylock

    No, dude, stop. Just stop. Whatever world you live in, it isn’t the real one.

    If Romney’s being blasted by the media, it’s because he’s an out-of-touch MORON.

    politicalhumor.about.com/od/mittromney/a/Mitt-Romney-Quotes.htm

    Ep
    Guest
    Ep

    Oooooo, I love this! Have you ever heard this in the original German? Dolf really knocked it out of the park, and Goebbels gave it, “Zwei thumbens upen!”

    Nelson
    Member

    so many isms in one post.

    Gotta ask though, why drug tests for welfare? why not for everyone? not that I agree of-course just wondering why.

    Zeku
    Member
    Zeku

    Costs, drug test are not free good sir. (Don’t quote me on this) But its (supposedly) costing Florida more to drug test for welfare than it is saving. I genuinely hope that isn’t true though.

    no
    Guest
    no

    Yeah but theill just make the poor people who want support to pay for it. What, you want other people to pay for them? That’s ‘ism of whatever version were shouting today!

    Wicked69
    Member

    It is true, and to an extreme cost.

    www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24/3/welfare-drug-testing-yields-2-percent-positive-res-ar-252458/
    and
    colorlines.com/archives/2011/08/98_of_florida_welfare_applicants_pass_newly_implemented_drug_tests_discrediting_governor.html

    “Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.”

    Zeku
    Member
    Zeku

    Oh and before I forget, ism.

    Nelson
    Member

    I meant ism plural, in reference to his nationalism, classism, racism etc

    And I’m wondering why people on welfare rather than another group. Why not test the people with money rather than poor people?

    hamm172
    Member

    It means test the Welfare recipients. The objection is that TAXPAYERS don’t want to pay for welfare recipients drugs. Do you pay taxes? Do you WANT to be paying for someone else’s drug habit? Obviously you don’t pay taxes.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    A drug testing strip costs about a buck.

    Telling someone they can’t have free money because they’re a drug addict makes sense.

    Drug addicts don’t get jobs.

    So in order to get free money they get clean. After getting clean they get welfare while they look for a job which they can do because they’re not high any more.

    This is so simple and obvious yet libtards play stupid (as with everything) and time has to be wasted rehashing the obvious.

    This is why nobody worth a damn takes a cause head seriously.

    jonblaze81
    Member

    Because retard,

    People who work for a living aren’t receiving public assistance, they are in fact paying for those who do. Also, it is an established fact that those who do live off of public assistance are involved in drug abuse and other criminal activity than those who are not on public assistance, so the point of drug testing welfare and other public assistance receivers is so that we as the workers who are getting taxed to pay for those who will not work, are not subsidizing their crack habit.

    Nelson
    Member

    I see It’s because you think that people on benefits are the spongers in society more so than the upper class. You don’t mind your taxes going to fund the ludicrous coke habbits of the corrupt wealthy fucks at the top or really what anyone does with their money as long as they earned it through the ^totally fair^ emplyment system you guys have over there. After all you would make less money for the economy if you put someone wealthy to work in the prison slave trade, but poor people, that makes sense. Americans really don’t understand the concept… Read more »

    crewmanguy
    Member

    Many jobs require you to submit to drug testing. That covers a good portion of everyone except Charlie Sheen. Sheen doesn’t get tested for drugs, the drugs get tested for him.

    Nelson
    Member

    Just had another great idea. Why no raid the homes of all people on benefits at random but at least once a week. That way even 1 downloaded song would give an excuse to throw tham off benefits and save tax money 🙂

    outlanderssc
    Member

    I do have to think that if the Republicans want Obama “gone” that they shouldn’t have fielded a candidate with no national political experience, no foreign policy experience, no military experience and a history of voting against the very platform the GOP supports. Remember, Romney is the guy who signed the first pro gay marriage order in the US, the guy who campaigned for Obamacare (and the individual mandate) back when it was called “Romneycare” and was governor of the state with the tightest gun control laws in the country. Even this month, when the GOP platform called for “no… Read more »

    Korinthian
    Member

    And here I thought you were on our side, outlanderssc!

    outlanderssc
    Member

    Can’t deny the truth – Romney is just “Obama light” – same ideas with less experience. The only real reason to vote for him is he’s the white guy, if you care about that stuff.

    They should have brought in Jeb Bush for 2012 instead of holding him back for 2016. THAT would have been an interesting contest –

    Luke Magnifico
    Member

    I wouldn’t find that contest interesting because I honestly wouldn’t mind who won. A Republican candidate with a strong record on education reform married to a Mexican? It boggles the mind, which is a sad indictment of the direction the Republican party has gone.

    GrandAdmiralThrawn
    Member

    You are of course completely right.

    And Conservatives don’t want to vote for him. But Conservatives are also terrified of what another four more years of Obama would bring. They’ll vote for Romney because not voting for him would be nearly treasonous.

    Conservatives refused to vote for McCain, otherwise he would have likely won. The problem is that the Republican party as to many people like Romney in KEY positions. And they loath Conservative Republicans.

    Watching politics, both locally, State, and nationally, conservatives have been regularly shit canning Romney style Republicans. But it takes time.

    outlanderssc
    Member

    Four years of Romney are likely going to bring the same thing as four years of Obama – the economy will recover slowly as personal debt gets paid off, nothing will happen in congress as both sides demand everything, Romney won’t find the “magic tax loopholes” he wanted and as such either taxes will go up or the debt will go up. My guess is the debt as taxes are unpopular and Romney hates it when people don’t like him. The only big issue is if something really bad happens in Europe or Iran, and I think Romney is completely… Read more »

    jonblaze81
    Member

    Yeah because Obama going around and kissing the asses, and apologizing for America’s technological and social progress is way better right? Obama does not believe in American exceptionalism, and wants us to be an equal with the rest of the world. Here is the problem with that, we would have to dramaticly lower our standers of living, and go heavily into wealth distribution to do that. Why should we lower our standards? We got to be #1 in every front because our forefathers had the vision to set high standards to begin with. They also set up our constitution based… Read more »

    tiki god
    Admin

    Do you even know what a socialist is?

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    Which kind?

    Because there is no such thing as just a “socialist”. Because of how all the varying sub categories conflict and differ.

    outlanderssc
    Member

    So much wrong – where do I start? Obama apologizing for America’s social progress? The only quote I could find that comes close is when he said “We sometimes make mistakes. We are not perfect” Do you really think America has never made a mistake? Seriously. This is just a Karl Rove manufactured talking point. Here’s what Obama really said – www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-touts-american-exceptionalism-end-of-wars-in-air-force-graduation-speech/2012/05/23/gJQANN2zkU_story.html Obama ruined the economy? Jan 2008- Dow crashing, banking industry crashing, insurance industry crashing, GM and Chrysler going under, economy losing 800,000 jobs a month Jan 2012 – Dow up 60%, banking industry stable, insurance industry stable, GM… Read more »

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    Southern Sweden has an immigration and rape crisis. Norway…are you not paying attention? The forced socialist platform is what drove that guy to do what he did. Denmark is not socialist. I suggest you visit each. Check out Holland Finland too. Just don’t preach you hippy bullshit or you’ll get your ass kicked. I was just in Holland about a month ago. Looooota resentment against multiculturalism goin on there. Lotta hate for the left. I hadn’t seen real skinheads in forever but as soon as I saw the arab cabbies (btw never take a cab with an arab driving in… Read more »

    100110110110010
    Member
    100110110110010

    What’s terrifying is, even though every thing he said is a joke, this person is not joking.



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