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August 21, 2012 at 6:10 pm
Enterprise, of course. Federation ships are shielded against energy weapons, while Imperial ships are not.
August 21, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Death Star Vs Borg?
August 21, 2012 at 6:30 pm
Borg, DS doesn’t have that good of weapons like the Borg
August 21, 2012 at 9:58 pm
The Death Star Vs. Borg would end with the Borg having a Death Star.
August 21, 2012 at 10:00 pm
That’s not a good thing, either.
August 22, 2012 at 2:47 am
That would a fucking horrible thing, they’d probably turn it into something that assimilated entire planets instead of destroying them.
I’ve always wondered why they couldn’t just beam their nanites over instead of having to us that direct contact probe they all have. Be a lot easier to assimilate a ship if half the crew was already on your side by the time you got there.
August 21, 2012 at 7:22 pm
“A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away….” remember that bit? So, if you’re going to pull this little argument, think of how much more ADVANCED the Star Wars tech would be compared to the Federation’s “Human Future” level of advancement.
Advantage: Lucas
August 21, 2012 at 7:30 pm
Everything is relative. That bit about a long time ago could be from the relative view of someone far into the future.
August 21, 2012 at 7:40 pm
Nope. You have to go with what is presented. And what is presented is “… long time ago..”. “Relative” really has nothing to do with it all in that it’s would STILL be considered “…long time ago…” no matter what time the Federation was in operation (relative to it’s position on the timeline).
Unless we want to trot out the Roddenberry Ultimate Nullifier and go with OMGTIMETRAVEL. In which case… whatever gets you off, fanboy/girl.
August 21, 2012 at 7:49 pm
What is presented is relative, because everything is relative. We just may not know what it is relative to.
And arguing the technology level is bunk, because we don’t have the technology level of Star Wars now. There’s no way to properly compare the technology level of the two fictional societies without contriving lots of jumps of reason.
Basically, this is a senseless argument, and can not be won by either position.
August 21, 2012 at 7:51 pm
Saying “Welp! Everything is relative so derp!” is intellectually lazy.
“… long time ago..”.
August 21, 2012 at 7:53 pm
It’s not like I didn’t then explain my position.
The two fictional societies have no relation to each other, so comparing them is not really possible.
And besides, breached warp cores, like I said, win every engagement.
August 21, 2012 at 10:06 pm
All fictional battles happen in a neutral space/time. The battle is an Imperial Star Destroyer vs. a Federation Galaxy Class Starship.
These are not the flagships of anyone, in other words, No nameable characters are on either ship.
August 21, 2012 at 7:31 pm
All the Enterprise has to do is launch a breached warp core. Those things are pretty much a win against anything.
August 21, 2012 at 8:39 pm
Arent star destroyers massive compared to the Enterprise?
August 21, 2012 at 8:46 pm
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Size is not always an indication of combat ability, of course.
August 21, 2012 at 8:50 pm
Victory SD about the length of DS9, IIRC.
August 21, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Correct
August 21, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Yes
August 21, 2012 at 8:52 pm
1= SD’s have a serious design flaw, the dome on the bottom is the bottom of its power reactor( and pretty crappy shielded too, 2 mimes and a torpedo can take it out. but i don’t want to waste mimes like that). 2= Who in the hell would use a fed design considered 30+ years old. 3= fed rules of engagement would dictate do not fire unless fired upon. 4= Is the Rebel Alliance involved with this, if so, then feds back out saying that this is an internal matter. and 5= i have the deck plans of an ISD in an old west end games Star wars rpg book.
August 21, 2012 at 9:00 pm
You bring up an excellent point. The federation would just ignore it because it’s their own damn civil war. Not like it’s spread across the galaxy or anything, right?
August 21, 2012 at 10:10 pm
Ignore all that. This is your typical “what if”. Only the fight matters, not how or why.
August 21, 2012 at 10:13 pm
The Star Destroyer would open fire and the Galaxy class would raise shields and take evasive actions trying to find a non-lethal way of coming to a resolution until their weapons are disabled and then finding a way at the very last moment to destroy the Star Destroy using…
A breached warp core.
August 22, 2012 at 12:00 am
what happened to the Sovereign-class
August 21, 2012 at 9:29 pm
SD wins hands down, it has multiple turbo laser emplacements and sheilds, and something the Enterprise does not…T.I.E Fighters, and if you want to go for a boarding action Storm Troopers would kick the Federations Mustard Shirt wearing prime directive wimps any day, as for Borg Vs. Deathstar. DS just needs one shot. They wont have time to adapt…
August 21, 2012 at 9:33 pm
But the Federation has breached warp cores.
Really, they should just design their ships to carry 40 readily breachable warp cores.
They would become a dominant military power.
August 21, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Ok, well hows about I see your breached warp cores and raise you two sith.
August 21, 2012 at 9:49 pm
I’ll see your sith, and raise you Nagilium and the whole of the Q Continuum.
Bringing the sith in doesn’t really make sense. They are not a typical attachment to an Imperial SD crew.
But then again, neither is 40 breachable warp cores.
August 21, 2012 at 9:50 pm
*on a federation ship.
August 21, 2012 at 10:00 pm
Indeed Q is pretty cool : )
Hmmmm, Ok let me put it to you like this.
If you had to exist in one of these, lets call them Universes, which one would it be?
Star Trek? You have the Q (Who Rock), Klingons, Romulans, Cardasians and the rest, and this is the major down point..The Federation. Theyre much to “Oh no we cant do that think of the prime directive” and “Ooo wont someone think of the Children!”
Or Star Wars?
Sith, Force powers, Wookies, people like Han Solo and Leia in a slave outfit, Storm Troopers, Androids, Robots, Jawas, things like the Death Star, Light Sabres and lots of cool uniforms…well if you’re on the Dark Side, I mean they have more cloaks then anyone, well maybe except the Romulans (Umm bad joke is bad)…and their major down sides are Jedi and Lucas.
So my friend which one would you choose? Hmmmm?
August 21, 2012 at 10:05 pm
If wanted to be a pilot, Star Wars.
If I wanted to be a researcher, Star Trek.
August 21, 2012 at 10:14 pm
I see your point, but I give you this, teleportation. The GC (Galaxy Class) can easily teleport a boarding party onto the SD. They could also just teleport some photon torpedoes into key areas of the SD, and warp away before the blast.
August 21, 2012 at 10:20 pm
You cant transport if the shields are up.
So they would have to knock out the SDs shielding, and then drop their own. Bit risky if you ask me, especially if they are getting swarmed by TIE Fighters. I would also suggest that the SD has a far far bigger crew, and there for more Storm Troopers than the GC would have security.
August 21, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Phasers would probably mince TIE fighters.
If they have any shielded fighters, they might have a chance. TIE advanced, TIE interceptors, assault gunboats. Left over fighters from the Clone Wars like the ARC-170 might do as well. But unshielded Tie Fighters will drop like flies.
August 21, 2012 at 10:24 pm
Right sorry to go overboard here but this is the general compliment carried by an Imperial Class Star Destroyer;
Armament
Dual heavy turbolaser turrets (6)[1]
Dual heavy ion cannon turrets (2)[1]
Quad heavy turbolasers (2)[1]
Triple medium turbolasers (3)[1]
Medium turbolasers (2)[1]
Taim & Bak XX-9 heavy turbolasers (60)[1]
Borstel NK-7 ion cannons (60)[1]
Phylon Q7 tractor beam projectors (10)[6]
Complement
TIE/ln starfighter (48)[1]
TIE/sa bomber (12)[1]
TIE boarding craft (12)[1]
Lambda-class shuttles (8)[6]
Delta-class stormtrooper transports (15)[1]
Assault gunboats (5)[6]
A variable number of Skipray Blastboats
Gamma-class assault shuttle (1+)
Repair and recovery vehicles
Theta-class AT-AT barges
Sentinel-class landing craft (12)[1]
AT-AT walkers (20)[6]
AT-ST walkers (30)[6]
Prefabricated garrison base (1)
Crew
Officers (9,235)[1]
Infantry (9,700)[1]
Enlisted (27,850)[1]
Gunners (275)[6]
August 22, 2012 at 2:34 am
The deflector shield aren’t the same as the GC shields, particularly when it’s been show that an asteroid or A-Wing fighter are able to crash though into the SD’s Bridge (ROJ). A small fighter like that wouldn’t normally get through a federation ships shields. Of course the GC doesn’t have to drop shields to fire multiple Photon torpedoes, so it should be no contest. Fire the torpedoes, warp away, and warp back to blast any escape pods, even the unmanned ones.
August 22, 2012 at 2:37 am
You mean breached warp cores, right?
August 22, 2012 at 2:49 am
It’s all clones vs. red shirts, the Storm Troopers would miss everything that aimed at, and the red shirts would die anyway.
August 22, 2012 at 2:50 am
August 21, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Good Answer.
Me, I’d go Star Wars, as long as we could get rid of the Jedi, especially that little green bastard.
August 21, 2012 at 11:52 pm
no we keep him and get rid of the rest
August 21, 2012 at 10:26 pm
The Organians would probably stop the whole thing before it would start anyways….
August 21, 2012 at 10:30 pm
I am amused that we are arguing the combat capabilities of a warship versus a science vessel.
August 21, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Interesting question, as I dont really know much about ST appart from what I have seen on the TV shows, do they have dedicated warships?
I seem to remember there was a ground army, but that might have just been a board game.
August 21, 2012 at 10:37 pm
They do. The Federation has the Constellation, Defiant, and Prometheus class warships.
Other groups have more warships than science ships. Klingons and Romulans have a lot of warships. Borg as well.
August 21, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Cool, I think due to the Hijinks the Enterprise Crew gets up to and into every week..or should I say did, you tend to forget its not a warship.
Might have to go have a little google fest on Star Trek.
August 21, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I’ve been rewatching the TNG this year. It’s a damn good show.
August 22, 2012 at 2:41 am
I’m more amused that people keep bring up things that have nothing to do with the battle, like Death Stars and the Borg.
If I had realized how passionate people were going to be I’d have probably posted some guidelines as to the scope of the battle from the beginning.
I’m almost tempted to say “A Wild Tardis Appears!!” just to see what would happen then.
August 22, 2012 at 3:38 am
This is serious stuff dude.
Hows about Solo Vs Kirk and Reynolds.
Actually scrub that, we should have Leia, Troi, Zoe and Adria fighting…naked….in oil.
Excuse me I need to visit the fridge again.
August 21, 2012 at 10:33 pm
ye of little faith
August 21, 2012 at 10:36 pm
Ooooo yeah, her and Leia….together….excuse me for a moment. I have to go slam something in the fridge door.
August 21, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Yeah I liked the shows when they were on, I need to get the box sets. Am sick of trying to stream them over here.
Sadly we seem to be lacking good Sci-Fi shows these days.
August 22, 2012 at 12:04 am
Playing STO (Star Trek Online), I would take an Odyssey class Tactical cruiser with phased polaron beam array’s and quantum torpedo’s and mine racks, (I WILL FRAK IT UP CRACKING SHIELDS AND SHUTTING DOWN POWER SYSTEMS)
August 22, 2012 at 7:49 am
NERDS’!!!!!!!
August 23, 2012 at 4:29 am
OGRE!!!!….RUN THE ALPHA BETA’S ARE LOOSE AGAIN
August 22, 2012 at 2:29 pm
jesus christ, 54 posts? GO OUTSIDE.
August 22, 2012 at 3:19 pm
But then a star destroyer might get me.
August 22, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I knew this post was going to get nerdkakke’d from the moment I saw it.
August 22, 2012 at 4:03 pm
Your mother didn’t think that last night.
August 22, 2012 at 6:07 pm
I AM YOUR MOTHER
August 22, 2012 at 6:08 pm
But I was talking about your mother.
August 22, 2012 at 4:27 pm
I’d say Star Destroyer. The federation just doesn’t have the stomach for violence or the ability to repel the squads of storm troopers that would inevitably board the fed ship. Besides, the SD has way more firepower than the galaxy, and as soon as the galaxy lost her shields, she would be swarmed by TIE fighters, keeping the crew distracted long enough for the boarding troops to land.
August 22, 2012 at 4:57 pm
a transport pad, a timer, and 5 cubic liters of antimatter in a magnetic bottle……..
BOOM, no more SD and im running away at high warp sacking my XO at the same time
September 1, 2012 at 11:52 pm
What, SD don’t have shields?