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    blowbags
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    Last two pics wouldn’t bat an eye lid – even looks somewhat cute, but think they are lucky pictures, cos the 3rd from last looks a bit manly

    juan_de_pab
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    juan_de_pab

    It was said that for the third to last, there was swelling due to the removal or altering of the adams apple through surgery

    draikyn
    Member

    “reading” – look it up

    blowbags
    Member

    Ahh sry, TL:DR to be honest – not in some “I’m too cool to waste my time” way, but more in an “I didn’t want a transgender transformation tale on my screen in work for 10 minutes” way.

    Oh and also up ur arse with broken glass Draikyn

    Pants
    Member

    oh thats nice, i like a cool story.

    Tyger42
    Member

    Well, good on her. In spite of ian’s homophobic jab, it was a cool story. She’s happy and found her way there herself.

    HoChunk
    Member

    Please explain how “There’s more than meets the eye!” is homophobic.

    MikeEatPie
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    Because she still has a penis

    draikyn
    Member

    actually there is nothing homophobic here whatsoever. Mainly because she’s NOT GAY. She’s TRANSGENDERED. So the only -phobia here is transphobia. In case you have trouble reading, she had a girlfriend once, but wasn’t really into it sexually. That means that SHE likes GUYS and is this HETEROSEXUAL. See how that works? I wouldn’t exactly call that comment transphobic, but it was at the least insensitive. Having lived with a F2M for a year and seeing exactly what can go on in peoples heads – and how all that stress and anxiety, exacerbated by intolerance, can lead to all sorts… Read more »

    Tyger42
    Member

    It’s an incarnation of the standard “It’s a trap!” meme. Basically a passive-aggressive jab.

    HoChunk
    Member

    So you meant “phallophobic”?

    metalhead2061
    Member

    That’s a great fucking story.

    asphyxxia
    Member

    She’s battled a lot to get what she dreamed of, this is a brilliant story. So much respect for the strength if this woman.

    twitch
    Member

    it’s a trap!

    Kingdavid
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    Kingdavid

    I can’t totally agree with gender conversions, but I really like the determination and self-reliance of this person to do what they wanted. It took a lot of courage to do this (all without sounding like a victim, too) and that is one thing I do respect, courage. I hope all the best for this soon to be young lady.

    draikyn
    Member

    don’t agree with gender conversion? Don’t get one. What’s it to you what other people do with their own bodies?

    Kingdavid
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    Kingdavid

    Obviously you are so intolerant of other people’s opinions that you can’t read past the first seven words. I guess you didn’t pick up on the writer’s respect and admiration for this person?

    Kingdavid
    Guest
    Kingdavid

    I’m the one who posted this comment and just because I don’t totally agree with something doesn’t mean I will not support other people doing it, I was just being honest. It’s attitudes like you draikyn that make open and honest dialogue impossible.

    draikyn
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    actually, I’ve found it’s people like you who say “I don’t agree with x, but I have no problem with person exhibit x” – it’s really just discrimination with a PC twist. You don’t have to want something to agree that it’s a valid choice for others. If you don’t agree that it’s valid, then you ARE showing prejudice and hiding it behind “but I have no problems with that person” so make yourself look better. I’ve had a lot of experience with that kind of attitude. Being “open and honest” would be admitting that you ARE prejudiced, and just… Read more »

    bstaples
    Member

    I love how we can all get together to ignore the basic facts of science and nature, in favor of an “irrational”, intangible feeling.
    Sure is Church up in here.

    metalhead2061
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    This is rather grounded in the facts of science and nature. It’s not an “irrational” feeling, it’s actually closer to – and I hate to word it like this – a mental illness. She wasn’t happy in a male body because her brain’s chemicals were not in harmony with it. We’re all developed as female before the x or y chromosome takes over. That’s why males have nipples and breast tissue. It also means that once in however many births, the female brain chemicals are trapped in a male body. Also, to refute your “Church” argument, there’s a difference between… Read more »

    draikyn
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    actually metal, you’re close but a little off. Transgenderism is actually closest to a neurological condition; there’s far more than hormones at work in the transgendered brain. There are several known variations between male and female brains – everything’s the same basic layout, but some areas are more pronounced in females than in males. Some little-known research analysing scans of transgendered brains for gender-biased structural variations have shown that most brains of people who identify as transgender – be they male or female – exhibit a brain that, structurally, most resembles that of their assumed gender, not their physical sex.… Read more »

    bstaples
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    Wow, because I don’t agree with your view point, I must be a “hillbilly hick”. Alright then. But my point still stands.
    You THINK you are a female. The hard (excuse the pun) undeniable evidence says otherwise. Lopping off your Johnson and taking pills doesn’t change the fact that regardless of how you FEEL, you were MADE another way.
    You reject the sciences of anatomy and physiology and tangible proofs that you can look in a mirror and touch, in favor of doing and thinking what you want.
    And I find that funny.

    Tyger42
    Member

    No, because you ignore science and make up “science” of your own to counter it, you must be a “hillbilly hick”.

    draikyn
    Member

    No. It was not the fact that you disagreed with my viewpoint, but that you were too stupid to even try to comprehend a topic beyond the most basic kindergarten grade understanding and then push your primitive mindset instead of striving to understand something foreign to you and adapt to incorporate that knowledge (that’s called schema adaptation in psychology). Also I fail to see how I rejected the sciences of anatomy and physiology when I never argued that transgendered people are not – as a physical sex – defined by their genotype. I argued that a *mental* capacity also defines… Read more »

    draikyn
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    Here’s a glimpse of my REAL science: [blockquote] During the intrauterine period a testosterone surge masculinizes the fetal brain, whereas the absence of such a surge results in a feminine brain. As sexual differentiation of the brain takes place at a much later stage in development than sexual differentiation of the genitals, these two processes can be influenced independently of each other. Sex differences in cognition, gender identity (an individual’s perception of their own sexual identity), sexual orientation (heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality), and the risks of developing neuropsychiatric disorders are programmed into our brain during early development. There is no… Read more »

    crewmanguy
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    When you say fetus, I think you mean egg. The male sperm is known to determine the gender, and that a sperm is either carrying a boy or girl.
    (when NON identical twins are created, two separate eggs are fertilized by two different sperm, so it’s possible to have a boy and girl as twins)
    So in actuality, the gender is decided at conception.

    draikyn
    Member

    in actuality, yes and no. Sex is predetermined by hormones, yes, but up to a point a male and female fetus is identical. Then hormone production is triggered and the levels of testosterone or eostrogen is decided by the genes. The difference is something like this: You can’t say a fetus has brown eyes when it hasn’t developed eyes at all yet. What will be and what is are different things. And young fetuses *are* the same, up to an age, whether they *will be* male or female. Subtle difference, but it’s there. Also, on a side-note: very rare genetic… Read more »

    wait...
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    wait...

    I enjoyed the story, and I agree that she didn’t make herself out as any sort of victim. I have a friend who’s transgendered and he (physically a she) always plays it like being transgendered makes him singled out or looked down upon instead of trying to make the changes in his life to be happy.

    draikyn
    Member

    that’s kind of hard when transgendered people often ARE singled out and looked down upon. There was a case a few years back here in my city of a woman who was murdered by her boyfriend after he found out she was born male. There’s a damn lot of hate out there, and it’s not exactly easy to just walk up to someone and say “hey I used to be dude. Still interested?”

    Kingdavid
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    Kingdavid

    I had a female friend that wanted to leave a lesbian relationship for a man and she was murdered for it. Hate is everywhere, you just have to learn that there are pieces of shit in every segment of society, but mostly there are decent people.

    notspamming
    Member

    Since the: “I’m a woman” thing was so strong, I wonder how (s)he will feel, not being able to have his\her own biological kids. Neither as mother, nor father.

    metalhead2061
    Member

    She’ll likely get over it an adopt. I’m not saying that in a cold-hearted manner, just an observation based on the resolve she’s shown thus far.

    Jesus Christ
    Member

    Have you considered that she did not want biological children anyway?

    draikyn
    Member

    have you considered that – before surgery – she can stop hormone therapy long enough to make a sperm deposit for IVF, or knock someone up anyway? Have you all forgotten so quickly the case of the “pregnant man” that swamped the media a few years back after a F2M did exactly that: stopped hormone therapy and got pregnant (to his transgendered partner).

    Then there’s always the stated argument that SHE may not want kids anyway, or at least not be so preoccupied with genetics to care who fucked to make it?

    Jesus Christ
    Member

    I remember the pregnant dude. He lived a state underneath me so I heard of it all the time. Pretty intense stuff.

    notspamming
    Member

    The procreation thingy is very strong, and sooner or later, it catches up with ~90% of population, so no kazzeh, I didn’t considered “no children” option. draikyn, so (s)he will get back to that existence (s)he abhorred, just to have a kid(s) ? And no, I don’t recall “pregnant man”. Not my thing. About preoccupation with genetics, maybe not on conscious level, but it is there. For the record: if (s)he really feels better now, and it isn’t some “let’s try this” thing, then by all means, good for him\her, go for it, and fuck anyone who stands in his\her… Read more »

    RSIxidor
    Member

    Have you not seen the last episode of that one season of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

    OntologicalShock
    Member

    That’s pretty neat. It’s awesome that science has come far enough to aid a person like this and help her fulfill what would have been a ludicrous dream in past years.

    asymon
    Member

    Af first I thought you-know-what is about Voldemort…

    Lemurian
    Member

    His transformation won’t be complete until they can change his Y chromosome to an X and delete all the memories of ever having been a man.

    Kingdavid
    Guest
    Kingdavid

    You have a point biologically, but this person is changing their gender more for sociological reasons.

    RSIxidor
    Member

    He likely doesn’t remember being a man. He likely remembers being pretty much a girl but having boy parts.

    Lemurian
    Member

    I like how stating an incontrovertible fact of biology and categorical logic got me four dislikes. I don’t care if this person undergoes extreme body modifications, its that persons body. I also don’t care how he feels. He can approximate being a woman all he wants, but that fact of the matter is that the closest he’ll ever get is some body mods, make-up, and clothes that are culturally defined as female. Which is good enough to fool most, maybe even himself. But to demand I also accept his categorization of himself is to ask me to ignore known facts.… Read more »

    Too Lazy To Make an MCS Account
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    Too Lazy To Make an MCS Account

    BURN THE HERETIC!

    Reaver
    Member

    So we should take all the unattractive makes and make them into attractive females

    Kingdavid
    Guest
    Kingdavid

    What would Muslims do this person? Oh, that’s right, they would hang them, after raping them of course.

    DMYTRIW WDS
    Member

    You seem to have an obsession with Muslims. This thread has nothing to do with them but you insist on bringing them up. You also seem to have an obsession with hanging and rape. What kind of sick shit are you into?

    Kingdavid
    Guest
    Kingdavid

    My obsession is how sick Muslims and how everyone ignores it.

    Kingdavid
    Guest
    Kingdavid

    add “are” after Muslims please

    HoChunk
    Member

    Hey, Fawstin…how’s it hangin? 😀

    RSIxidor
    Member

    She’s pretty cute there in the end … but a penis is still a problem.

    WistfulD
    Member

    Only if you actually expect to get her into bed and her clothes off. From my married-and-it’s-never-going-to-happen point of view, she looks great!

    Kik Dogg
    Member

    LOL if the boobs were big enough, could you get past the penis? Maybe she gives great head. Could you get past the penis then? ;D

    RSIxidor
    Member

    Are you implying that you have large boobs and a penis?

    I like getting head, but I like putting my dicks in things after I get head … so the penis is still a problem.

    brett
    Guest
    brett

    That’s gay.

    Carnito
    Member
    Carnito

    I thought we were supposed to value inner beauty and not be concerned with the physical, surface layer of peoples’ appearance.

    Cy85
    Member

    No, that was a lie they told you. Most things you were told were lies.

    OPPLE
    Guest
    OPPLE

    Santa?

    HoChunk
    Member

    There’s wearing tons of makeup, piercings, getting face lifts & boob jobs, and then there’s changing your entire gender/sexual identity.

    Inside me there’s a black lesbian revolutionary, trying to get out.

    Teaspoon
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    Teaspoon

    I was born a woman, and enjoy being a woman, and still feel absolutely no “biological imperative” to have kids. Yes, I’m old enough that by now I should have “felt my clock ticking,” but there is nothing. I do not want children. Women are not baby factories, whether they were born women or became so later in life. I wish people would just get that through their thick skulls.

    bobo
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    bobo

    goddamn liberal commies



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