Transformers!

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There’s more than meets the eye!

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    1. Last two pics wouldn’t bat an eye lid – even looks somewhat cute, but think they are lucky pictures, cos the 3rd from last looks a bit manly

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    2. oh thats nice, i like a cool story.

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    3. Well, good on her. In spite of ian’s homophobic jab, it was a cool story. She’s happy and found her way there herself.

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    4. She’s battled a lot to get what she dreamed of, this is a brilliant story. So much respect for the strength if this woman.

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    5. I can’t totally agree with gender conversions, but I really like the determination and self-reliance of this person to do what they wanted. It took a lot of courage to do this (all without sounding like a victim, too) and that is one thing I do respect, courage. I hope all the best for this soon to be young lady.

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      • don’t agree with gender conversion? Don’t get one. What’s it to you what other people do with their own bodies?

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        • Obviously you are so intolerant of other people’s opinions that you can’t read past the first seven words. I guess you didn’t pick up on the writer’s respect and admiration for this person?

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        • I’m the one who posted this comment and just because I don’t totally agree with something doesn’t mean I will not support other people doing it, I was just being honest. It’s attitudes like you draikyn that make open and honest dialogue impossible.

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          • actually, I’ve found it’s people like you who say “I don’t agree with x, but I have no problem with person exhibit x” – it’s really just discrimination with a PC twist. You don’t have to want something to agree that it’s a valid choice for others. If you don’t agree that it’s valid, then you ARE showing prejudice and hiding it behind “but I have no problems with that person” so make yourself look better.

            I’ve had a lot of experience with that kind of attitude. Being “open and honest” would be admitting that you ARE prejudiced, and just hiding it, even from yourself.

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    6. I love how we can all get together to ignore the basic facts of science and nature, in favor of an “irrational”, intangible feeling.
      Sure is Church up in here.

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      • This is rather grounded in the facts of science and nature. It’s not an “irrational” feeling, it’s actually closer to – and I hate to word it like this – a mental illness. She wasn’t happy in a male body because her brain’s chemicals were not in harmony with it. We’re all developed as female before the x or y chromosome takes over. That’s why males have nipples and breast tissue. It also means that once in however many births, the female brain chemicals are trapped in a male body.
        Also, to refute your “Church” argument, there’s a difference between denying the existence of an intangible being is different than denying what makes us human to begin with.

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        • actually metal, you’re close but a little off. Transgenderism is actually closest to a neurological condition; there’s far more than hormones at work in the transgendered brain. There are several known variations between male and female brains – everything’s the same basic layout, but some areas are more pronounced in females than in males. Some little-known research analysing scans of transgendered brains for gender-biased structural variations have shown that most brains of people who identify as transgender – be they male or female – exhibit a brain that, structurally, most resembles that of their assumed gender, not their physical sex. There’s still far more than that going on, and the cause – or causes – isn’t understood.

          The fetus does not actually develop any gender without sex chromosome interference, but rather a scaffold that is capable of supporting either sex. It just so happens that it visibly resembles the female form more than the male. Physiologically, however, it is as far from female as it is from male. It just requires a boost of testosterone – caused by the Y chromosome – before a certain ‘threshold’ developmental age to ‘override’ the X and begin specialising those ‘scaffold’ structures into male forms. Without the Y, the X chromosome is not suppressed and so is free to boost eostrogen production, accentuating female development.

          It has, thus, been suggested that a hormonal imbalance in the mother during this critical time of pregnancy might ‘trick’ the fetus into believing it has a Y chromosome – or lacks a Y chromosome – when it doesn’t, but initiates and irreversible variant physiological basis to cause hard-wired gender-based behaviours to pervade into adulthood.
          However, hormones are large protein structures, far too large to cross the maternal/fetal blood barrier in the placenta and no evidence has ever been found to support this theory, albeit a sound theory on paper.

          We may never know what causes transgenderism, but the facts are – yes FACTS – that it is not all just “in their heads” like a mental disorder. Transgenderism has a definite physiological basis; one that is just not yet really understood. We know it’s there, in brain-scans and bloodwork, but we don’t know why or how. Note also that transgenderism is possible in any sex – not just those male-born. Note also the difference between ‘gender’ and ‘sex’: ‘gender’ refers to one’s own mental alignment to male or female; ‘sex’ refers to ones genotype (being XX or XY). Most people have a matching sex and gender, and so never ever question it. But for those rare people who do have a mismatched sex/gender, life is pretty damn fucked up.

          There’s a lot of misinformation out there, Metal, but props for at least looking and trying to understand. Most people don’t even have the decency to do that much… case in point: bstaples.

          Bstaples, take it from me: you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. Think I’m the one talking shit? Well show me your degree in Developmental Physiology and we’ll talk, k? Until then, grow some common fucking decency and quit talkin shit about stuff you so obviously don’t even understand. Fucking hillbilly hick…

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          • Wow, because I don’t agree with your view point, I must be a “hillbilly hick”. Alright then. But my point still stands.
            You THINK you are a female. The hard (excuse the pun) undeniable evidence says otherwise. Lopping off your Johnson and taking pills doesn’t change the fact that regardless of how you FEEL, you were MADE another way.
            You reject the sciences of anatomy and physiology and tangible proofs that you can look in a mirror and touch, in favor of doing and thinking what you want.
            And I find that funny.

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            • No, because you ignore science and make up “science” of your own to counter it, you must be a “hillbilly hick”.

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            • No. It was not the fact that you disagreed with my viewpoint, but that you were too stupid to even try to comprehend a topic beyond the most basic kindergarten grade understanding and then push your primitive mindset instead of striving to understand something foreign to you and adapt to incorporate that knowledge (that’s called schema adaptation in psychology).

              Also I fail to see how I rejected the sciences of anatomy and physiology when I never argued that transgendered people are not – as a physical sex – defined by their genotype. I argued that a *mental* capacity also defines gender roles – that being what most people consider to be “male” or “female” behaviour – and that GENDER and SEX do not always match. I backed that up with scientific data, data that you refuse to acknowledge while incorrectly claiming that I had refuted your “sciences of anatomy and physiology”. Uhhh sorry mate but every point I made WAS anatomy and physiology. What else do you call genetics, brain structure, and hormone blanace/response?

              And as for rejecting things that I can look in a mirror and touch… well then I guess air doesn’t exist cos I can’t see that. We aren’t made of highly organised cellular matrices, because – look – my skin’s all flat and continuous. And what the hell is “bacteria” anyway. Sounds like oogity boogity witchcraft to me…

              I’ve backed up my points with actual physiology. How about you try to do the same? Prove my claims wrong, if you can.

              *NB* “Proof” requires proper investigative documentation and not just “but everyone know you can’t see X so it’s not real”. Otherwise I can ‘prove’ to you now that gravity doesn’t exist…

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            • Here’s a glimpse of my REAL science:

              [blockquote]
              During the intrauterine period a testosterone surge masculinizes the fetal brain, whereas the absence of such a surge results in a feminine brain. As sexual differentiation of the brain takes place at a much later stage in development than sexual differentiation of the genitals, these two processes can be influenced independently of each other. Sex differences in cognition, gender identity (an individual’s perception of their own sexual identity), sexual orientation (heterosexuality, homosexuality or bisexuality), and the risks of developing neuropsychiatric disorders are programmed into our brain during early development. There is no evidence that one’s postnatal social environment plays a crucial role in gender identity or sexual orientation. We discuss the relationships between structural and functional sex differences of various brain areas and the way they change along with any changes in the supply of sex hormones on the one hand and sex differences in behavior in health and disease on the other. Copyright Copyright 2011 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.
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              [cite]Bao, AM & Swaab, DF (2011) ‘Sexual differentiation of the human brain: relation to gender identity, sexual orientation and neuropsychiatric disorders.’ [Review] Frontiers in Neuroendocrinology. Vol 32(2) pp. 214-26.[/cite]

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          • When you say fetus, I think you mean egg. The male sperm is known to determine the gender, and that a sperm is either carrying a boy or girl.
            (when NON identical twins are created, two separate eggs are fertilized by two different sperm, so it’s possible to have a boy and girl as twins)
            So in actuality, the gender is decided at conception.

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            • in actuality, yes and no. Sex is predetermined by hormones, yes, but up to a point a male and female fetus is identical. Then hormone production is triggered and the levels of testosterone or eostrogen is decided by the genes.

              The difference is something like this: You can’t say a fetus has brown eyes when it hasn’t developed eyes at all yet. What will be and what is are different things. And young fetuses *are* the same, up to an age, whether they *will be* male or female.

              Subtle difference, but it’s there.

              Also, on a side-note: very rare genetic anomalies can actually produce offspring of genotypes X, Y, XXX, and XXY. You can’t say any of those even have a sex.

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    7. I enjoyed the story, and I agree that she didn’t make herself out as any sort of victim. I have a friend who’s transgendered and he (physically a she) always plays it like being transgendered makes him singled out or looked down upon instead of trying to make the changes in his life to be happy.

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      • that’s kind of hard when transgendered people often ARE singled out and looked down upon. There was a case a few years back here in my city of a woman who was murdered by her boyfriend after he found out she was born male. There’s a damn lot of hate out there, and it’s not exactly easy to just walk up to someone and say “hey I used to be dude. Still interested?”

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        • I had a female friend that wanted to leave a lesbian relationship for a man and she was murdered for it. Hate is everywhere, you just have to learn that there are pieces of shit in every segment of society, but mostly there are decent people.

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    8. Since the: “I’m a woman” thing was so strong, I wonder how (s)he will feel, not being able to have his\her own biological kids. Neither as mother, nor father.

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      • She’ll likely get over it an adopt. I’m not saying that in a cold-hearted manner, just an observation based on the resolve she’s shown thus far.

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      • Have you considered that she did not want biological children anyway?

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        • have you considered that – before surgery – she can stop hormone therapy long enough to make a sperm deposit for IVF, or knock someone up anyway? Have you all forgotten so quickly the case of the “pregnant man” that swamped the media a few years back after a F2M did exactly that: stopped hormone therapy and got pregnant (to his transgendered partner).

          Then there’s always the stated argument that SHE may not want kids anyway, or at least not be so preoccupied with genetics to care who fucked to make it?

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        • The procreation thingy is very strong, and sooner or later, it catches up with ~90% of population, so no kazzeh, I didn’t considered “no children” option.

          draikyn, so (s)he will get back to that existence (s)he abhorred, just to have a kid(s) ?
          And no, I don’t recall “pregnant man”. Not my thing.
          About preoccupation with genetics, maybe not on conscious level, but it is there.

          For the record:
          if (s)he really feels better now, and it isn’t some “let’s try this” thing, then by all means, good for him\her, go for it, and fuck anyone who stands in his\her way of being oneself, happiness. But only if it’s a true thing.

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        • Have you not seen the last episode of that one season of It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia?

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    9. That’s pretty neat. It’s awesome that science has come far enough to aid a person like this and help her fulfill what would have been a ludicrous dream in past years.

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    10. His transformation won’t be complete until they can change his Y chromosome to an X and delete all the memories of ever having been a man.

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      • You have a point biologically, but this person is changing their gender more for sociological reasons.

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      • He likely doesn’t remember being a man. He likely remembers being pretty much a girl but having boy parts.

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      • I like how stating an incontrovertible fact of biology and categorical logic got me four dislikes. I don’t care if this person undergoes extreme body modifications, its that persons body. I also don’t care how he feels. He can approximate being a woman all he wants, but that fact of the matter is that the closest he’ll ever get is some body mods, make-up, and clothes that are culturally defined as female. Which is good enough to fool most, maybe even himself. But to demand I also accept his categorization of himself is to ask me to ignore known facts. No one that cares about truth would do that. It is unfortunate, for him, that he may have the brain structure of a female. And if that is indeed the case, then he will do what he must. So shall we all.

        But yes, I am amused that the so called tolerant show their true colors whenever they encounter an opinion they don’t like. How self congratulatory and transparent those four anonymous hypocrits are.

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    11. So we should take all the unattractive makes and make them into attractive females

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    12. What would Muslims do this person? Oh, that’s right, they would hang them, after raping them of course.

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    13. She’s pretty cute there in the end … but a penis is still a problem.

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    14. I thought we were supposed to value inner beauty and not be concerned with the physical, surface layer of peoples’ appearance.

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    15. I was born a woman, and enjoy being a woman, and still feel absolutely no “biological imperative” to have kids. Yes, I’m old enough that by now I should have “felt my clock ticking,” but there is nothing. I do not want children. Women are not baby factories, whether they were born women or became so later in life. I wish people would just get that through their thick skulls.

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    16. goddamn liberal commies

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