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    ian356094
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    Also known as the Ugliest Sniper Rifle Ever Invented.

    asymon
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    So guns are created for good-looking?

    ian356094
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    Yes. Guns are designed with visual psychological effects in mind. All military guns and gear and vehicles are designed to look a very specific way.

    Korinthian
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    What psychological effects? Link source.

    ian356094
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    My department is very close to industrial design. You are all familiar with the idea that everything you see (that’s man made) is designed by someone. Well same goes for guns and all other military gear and vehicles. Soldiers and vehicles especially must be both practical as well give a psychological effect on the enemy. If you look at SWAT officers, there’s a good example. The all black/dark blues isn’t for camouflage. It’s psychological warfare. It looks scary. It looks aggressive. You can’t make a human connection to them because of their balaclavas that hide their face. More often than… Read more »

    Korinthian
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    Look. I understand your reasoning. But as far as I can tell it’s all guesswork from your side.

    100110110110010
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    100110110110010

    A tank that you cant see and kills you from 3000m at night was designed to be a visual icon of aggressiveness? Same for a sniper rifle. You never see the sniper. Thats the point. And as for signs of aggressiveness: what does an MRAP connote? If I’m a terrorist, I’m laughing that GI Joe has to drive that behemoth just to do a supply run across town. Your theory is interesting and SWAT teams obviously dont wear pink for a reason. I’d respect your argument more if you’d stated that the industrial design was butched up for the _adoption_… Read more »

    storminator
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    A lot of them are designed with looks in mind- but many also have no concern whatsoever about looks- just function. Since they functioned so well, the fear and intimidation natuarally came along with them. Some guns look kick-ass, but they don’t work for shit. So, they become synonymous with the piece of garbage that they are.

    but, I must say, in the past 20-30 years, a lot of emphasis has been placed on making guns look kick ass. And I am good with that!

    Here’s a site that I go to often:

    www.imfdb.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

    Enjoy.

    notspamming
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    I like bullpup guns, but yep, it’s fucking ugly.

    Punk_in_Drublic
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    Wa2000, i dont mind the look but as far as acuracy goes they are shocking. standard is a 18 or 20inch barrel and .308 (7.62mm) cal. the short barrel makes it useless for more than roughly 600 meters. which is hardly a sniper shot. prefer my .338 edge with a 23inch comp barrel. acurate for 1600meters

    BadLarry13
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    You sir need to recheck your facts…. primary cambering was 300 win mag, with a 25 in barrel. With only 176 ever made and costing about 40,000 to start, I don’t expect to ever see one anyway.

    LRichardson
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    Price at the time was around $9000. I suspect the $40,000 figure is either adjusted for inflation (a Civic in the same year cost around $4000) or is an auction estimate. But yea, they were reputedly extremely accurate (sub MOA) and had a free floated 25.6in barrel. I -so- wanted one. That would have been a lot of allowance… Heck, I still would love having one, though I would be afraid to shoot it. I actually rather like the look of them. It speaks of being “purpose built” rather than simply being a tuned up version of Billy-Bob’s elk gun.… Read more »

    Punk_in_Drublic
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    I never looked at the specific specs, i was sure it was 308? but it certainly doesn’t look a 25 inch barrel. and yeah iv never seen one for sale or seen anybody who owns one. regardless the 300 win mag still inst a brilliant sniper cal. i own 2 win mags and all you can get out of them is 1200m on an average day. not great. i personally call a gun a “sniper” if it is accurate for more like 1600+
    Shooting my first time at 2km soon. wish me luck hey.

    JamSandwich
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    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walther_WA_2000
    Primary was .300 WM, but it was also made in 7.62 Nato (.308) and 7.65 Swiss
    www.snipercentral.com/wa2000.htm

    js
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    js

    I actually think it looks nice but it’s no sniper rifle with that range… could be awesome for varmint hunting and I understand it can receive a suppressor that adds range and removes some noise making it suitable for hunting varmints in the urban environment 😀

    Punk_in_Drublic
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    a suppressor doesn’t add range under any circumstance. in fact for the suppressor to be most effective it will loose range. for a suppressor to work 100% it needs low velocity rounds (under 1000feet per sec) 300 win mag as this is chambered in? is around 3300fps depending on loads. you wont have any gunshot sound. but people will hear a sonic boom as it fly’s near them.

    Korinthian
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    I like how it looks. Lots of guns seem to go for basically the same look (in a very general sense).

    I bet you can buy this one at IKEA.

    LRichardson
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    The HEDSCHODT rifle, new from Ikea! Sophisticated modular design to meet the demands of modern urban living.

    RSIxidor
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    I think it looks awesome.

    DMYTRIW WDS
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    For when you can’t decide if you want a gun or a coffee table.

    Carnito
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    Carnito

    bull-pup sucks, having the casing eject right next to your ear is loud and painful.

    Starfire
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    Starfire

    I’ve seen a few people on the interwebs make the claim that a bullpup is louder, but I’m guessing that none of them have ever fired one. I’ve fired plenty in many calibres and have never noticed any difference in sound levels. Almost all of a firearm’s noise comes out of the barrel, so given that a bullpup typically as a longer barrel than most carbine type weapons, they actually tend to be quieter. An ejection port doesn’t open until pressure in the barrel has dropped to a safe level, which is after all of the noise has stopped coming… Read more »

    Hellspear
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    Hellspear

    The whole point of a bullpup designe is 2 fold. First size and second the visual field. The first makes the weapon both more manuverable and as in the case of the P-90 in particular easier to cary for a specific roll. The second while the noise of the ejection port right by the ear may seam to be a problem it is not as the sound will travel through your cheek bone anyway from a normal style weapon. The ejection port being this far back however means that there is no shell cases flying into view and therefor distracting… Read more »

    JamSandwich
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    James Bond had one in The Living Daylights… looked HUGE



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