It’s real. Shut the fuck up you racist birthers.
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nice outburst of emotionally filled hatred.. very coherently and logically presented argument indeed.. because labeling everyone a racist that disagrees with your point of view is the correct way to get your point across..
now, regarding this so called real certificate.. maybe he was born in hawaii, maybe not, i dont particularly care, but whats funny is that the PDF document on the white house website is totally forged. if you open it in illustrator, it consists of layers upon layers of, well, layered information.. its way too comical in my opinion for the white house to do a sloppy job like that.
is it so hard to take the actual document and scan it?
Damn casemods, when did your grammar get so good
Let’s see: Did they want to see Bush Jrs birth certificate? No.
Clinton? No.
Bush Sr? No.
Reagan? No.
Carters? No.
Looks pretty racist to me by definition. It’s like they don’t think African Americans qualify to be President.
I still don’t see it as racist. I see the whole thing as silly, but not racist. As far as I know, he’s the only president who has a parent who is not of US origin. I think the debate stems more from that.
Now, the people that are accusing him of being Muslim are racist, as the president’s religion should not matter.
Of course, I don’t see how people can drag out all the stuff Rev. Wright has said to use against Obama and still call him a Muslim.
|is it so hard to take the actual document and scan it?|
If you go to get a copy of your birth certificate this is what you get nowadays. I never had one until just a few years ago and that’s what it looks like. So if it sufficient for my employer why isn’t sufficient for birthers? They’ll never be happy with whatever they are given because they just have personal issues with Obama, and by the looks of the most vocal birthers it’s based on race. WHAT OTHER CONSPIRACY WOULD THERE BE?
…besides him being a LIZARD PERSON! IT’S TRUE! YOU CAN’T SILENCE ME! YOU CAN’T STOP THE SIGNAL!
This is why they took “V” off the air, to close to the truth…
I downloaded the PDF and opened it in Illustrator.
There is only one layer. Anon lies.
It’s funny how Anon decries the OP for a lack of decorum an then manufactures a falsehood. Tsk.
On a second note, it seems this “layered document” bull shit is already getting passed around the web. I’ve seen it over on Fark and a few Freeper websites.
actually if you knew how to use Illustrator you would know that it consists of multiple layers. disable clipping mask first. learn something will ya.
even if he were born in kenya, he would still have american citizenship, because his mother Stanley was an american citizen. Article II of the Constitution:
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
a natural born citizen is a child born to an american citizen, within or without the country
“No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States…”
So, people who came to the world by Caesarean section can not be president?
Macduff was from his mothers womb untimely ripp’d!
Of course, the only people who could possibly dislike Obama are racists.
Just like the only people who dislike Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton are sexists.
Just like the only people who dislike Rachel Maddow are homophobes.
Just like the only people who dislike Qaddafi and Ahmadinejad are Islamophobes.
Just like the only people who dislike Glenn Beck are retardphobes.
By the way, I’m latino, so if you disagree with me on anything I’ve ever said, it’s obviously because you’re a racist.
GO BACK TO MEXICO!!!!!!!
Give him directions.
What if he’s not from Mexico?
He should go there anyway. It’s got to be the most posh Latino nation in the world!
No, the people making a big flap over “He’s not an American! Where’s the birth certificate?!?!” are racist.
You no make sense hombre!
People can dislike Obama on many things other than race.
Sarah Palin can be strongly disagreed with on her personal viewpoint and attitude.
Gadaffi is a Dictator arsehole who’s scared of getting thrown out of power because of the things he could be accused and tried for.
IMHO the first person who calls the “Racist Card” is racist. I don’t have an issue with your race. You made your race an issue. I have an issue with your viewpoint.
That’s the problem really. People aren’t taking issue with his viewpoint. They’re clinging to a manufactured controversy that has no basis in realty.
Additionally, it’s funny that people say this is not a race issue. He’s the first black president, and people are skeptical he’s an American for no reason? And they expect reject all tangible proof that he is a citizen?
Sounds pretty racist to me.
You know, what’s really pathetic is now that this is out, Donald the Ego is suddenly demanding Obama’s education records. What the fuck?!
He’s asked about them before, and has offered to release his tax records if Obama release’s his school records.
I think the Donald is just out to promote his show with no intention to run. He mentions the show at every turn. He has stated that he can’t run while the show is on the air. He’ll use getting picked up for another season as his reason for not running, but right now it’s great PR for him and his show.
Remember this is someone who name is his brand, regardless of how it looks, any PR is good PR.
Maybe we should start a campaign to get his show cancelled so he can run. If nothing else it would make the Daily Show a lot more fun to watch –
@natedog: wrong, just because his mother was american does not make him a citizen, the closest thing it does is make eligible for citizenship and would still not constitute natural born.
@ph3000: the other presidents birth certificates were/are public file, no one could find uh oh’bamas so they had right to be suspicious.
You say they are on public file. Prove it. I could find no record of the documents online.
Your statements have a disturbing lack of citations. I smell the distinct smell of birther bullshit.
Everyone knows that every public document ever created is put online, even those that were created before the Internet.
Even if they’re not online, if they’re “Public” there should be a way to obtain them.
So, anon noob, WHAR BIRTH CERTIFICATES!!! WHAR???
@mongoblack: You are incorrect sir:
Thats why birthers are stupid!
xkcd.com/258/
“birther”?
Why is everything with left wing nut jobs about calling people names and applying blanket statements to refer to anyone who dares not think how they do?
Obama could have been born on the steps of the White House and he’d still be the massive disappointment everyone with a brain warned the stupid fucks who voted for him about. Your country is more fucked than its ever been and you can play the blame game as much as you want but he is was voted in under the guise of being able to fix your economy not drive it further into the ground. You voted for change and now that’s about what your dollar is worth.
sorry I didn’t edit that so there are a few typos. I guess that makes me a typoist? Damn typoists. Why won’t they buy a Mac, get fat or really skinny, and think how everyone living in urban areas with rich suburban parents do?
“birther” wasn’t created by left wing nutjobs, it was created by media nutjobs so they could distinguish “birther nutjobs” from the other right wing nutjobs.
And anybody who thinks Obama is responsible for the current US economy needs to re-read the history of the last 20 years.
BTW – if you’re worried about typos, you can always get Firefox and a free built in spellchecker. You don’t have to have rich suburban parents to get it, but you have to be smart enough to download it.
Firefox? Sorry this isn’t 2004, moron. Chrome has it as well but spell check hardly catches typos such as forgetting to delete the letter I when its a singular.
The media aren’t left wing nutjobs? What planet are you on?
Wall street has turned around.
Corporate profits are at an all time high.
Unemployment is falling.
GM is the number 2 car company in the world, and stands a chance of overtaking Toyota.
That’s hardly a case of making the economy worse.
Sorry, Mags, but facts and reality have a liberal bias. Go back to masturbating in a pile of your own shit, you lying asshole.
Wall Street has turned around?
I cashed a US dollar here in Canada yesterday. It was worth 91 cents.
Corporate profits are at an all time high? Really? Because last time I checked they were as such because of outsourced jobs which does not strengthen your economy. What happened to that Buy American campaign again?
Toyota is losing ground? Wow I wonder how…oh thats right THEY HAD A MAJOR EARTHQUAKE THAT HAS SHATTERED THEIR ENTIRE COUNTRY. Damn you’re stupid.
Sorry moron but your country is falling faster than it was before Obama. Thats a fact. And its not the last guy’s fault. Its his and he claimed to be able to fix it. He hasn’t and can’t.
Facts. They’re not your friend.
Back to lying, I see.
The Dow was under 800 when Obama took office. Now it’s over 1200.
You have no point with the value of a Dollar. I see you’re making a cowardly straw man again because you can’t deal with facts.
And that’s straw man#2 about corporate profits. You can’t deny that so you’re trying to change the subject.
And while you’re trying to distract the issue, we’ve had over a year of job growth.
Also, you’re ignoring the point with GM. In 2008, they were on the edge of bankruptcy. Now they’re the #2 car company in the world.
Sorry moron, but you can’t change the fact that the country has been recovering steadily since Obama took office.
You shouldn’t talk about facts, since you don’t seem to understand what they are.
You’re out of your mind little guy.
Do you even know what the Dow is? At all?
No point wiht the value of the dollar? Wow..you are epic stupid.
Corporate profits? Okay first explain how you see “corporate profits”…thanks I thought so. Profit margins go up with you pay your labourers 3$ a day instead of 30$ an hour. But it fucks your economy. There is nothing more expensive than cheap labour.
In 2008 GM was not on the edge of bankruptcy. That was in 2009. When president nigger was in ‘power’. But I’m the liar?
You country is in horrible shape. The worst its been since the great depression and it has gotten progressively worse since your dumb half nog president got voted in with white guilt and empty promises.
Again you make it so easy to slap anything you say out of the way like the bitch you are. So fuckoff and quit responding to anything I say. You’re some pathetic asshat with about as much sense as the paper your GED you tell everyone is a PHD is printed on.
“In 2008 GM was not on the edge of bankruptcy. That was in 2009. When president nigger was in ‘power’. But I’m the liar?”
GM lost money consistently for several years, and by 2008 announced they would be out of money. They were going under and they knew it.
Yeah, you’re the liar. Again when you’re losing an argument you resort to lying. Like this:
” You’re some pathetic asshat with about as much sense as the paper your GED you tell everyone is a PHD is printed on.”
Again, for those watching, Magnus doesn’t know me from Adam. He doesn’t know any personal details about me. He just gets insecure and launches personal attacks when he’s losing an argument. Which is pretty much all the time.
You can’t refute a damned thing I ever say. You try to bullshit through but wow…way to fail, retard.
2008 GM was fine. President global embarrassment fucked your economy by being completely incompetent. He had good intentions. Whoopee. He fucked up massively and no amount of excuses will excuse it.
Ahem.
“General Motors was financially vulnerable before the automotive industry crisis of 2008-2009. In 2005 the company posted a loss of US$10.6 billion.[16] In 2006, its attempts to obtain U.S. government financing to support its pension liabilities and also to form commercial alliances with Nissan and Renault failed. For fiscal year 2007, GM’s losses for the year were US$38.7 billion,[17] and sales for the following year dropped by 45%.[18]
On November 7, 2008 General Motors reported it had projected it would run out of cash around mid-2009 without a combination of government funding, a merger, or sales of assets.”
Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Chapter_11_reorganization#Background
They were not fine in 2008. Add another lie to the pile you’ve made.
Seriously, it’s like you’re feeding me arguments that are too easy to refute.
Additionally, I find it funny that you criticize the left for calling names and then call names in the same sentence.
You constant hypocrisy is amusing.
Left wing nutjob is not a category you fucking idiot. You have left wing and right wing nutjobs. Then you have ‘birther’ ‘tea party’ and 1000 other little insults morons like you think do something other than make you look like fucking idiots.
Left wing nutjob is an observation. Birther is a term made up to insult people and group them into a mass that can be judged and ridiculed.
The equivalent would be calling you and everyone who thinks like you ‘asslickers’. It would be a term. Those damned asslickers are out crying again because they don’t have anything else to do. Damned asslickers.
Wow, you’re pathetic.
Now you’re going to try to pretend that “left wing nutjob” isn’t an insult, but birther is?
Magnus, I want to meet you one day. I want to see if you walk around in your own little world like you do on this forum. I seriously wonder how you go about your day to day life.
You’re a retard.
Left wing nutjob is an observation. Explain to me how ‘birther’ is an observation of behavior? They wanted to see a birth certificate? That’s called a right wing nutjob you fucking idiot.
I could care less who you want to meet or what piddly little thoughts occupy your wee little fucked up brain. You’re an idiot.
Since you’re just making up shit, explain how “left wing nutjob” is an observation of behavior.
I love it when I point out your sad hypocrisy. You really go off the deep end when I do that.
he is half white and half black! wtf is racist about that!!!!!!
fuck this shit. nobody cares anymore. we just gotta wait til the next election.
The constitution is racist.
Why only USAders?