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March 16, 2011 at 9:55 am
They’re just hurting to be fired, aren’t they?
March 16, 2011 at 10:33 am
Blue tipped munitions usually mean they’re for training.
On our Abrams, we would fire our main gun rounds that were blue tipped, for training at the gunnery range.
For instance, instead of the HEAT round being packed with explosive fun, it’s simply filled with concrete. (equivalent weight, but no need to decimate a plywood target, haha)
March 16, 2011 at 11:14 am
What do you reckon is the difference between blue tipped (training) bullets and regular bullets? Are they tracer rounds?
March 16, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Biggest difference is the Price
Mostly it depends on what weapon the Ammunition is made for; e.g. when i did my draft time (I’m German, we still have draft), we shot Rifle with the Blue training round – this was actually plastic ammunition, while live ones were steel jacket.
For the “Panzerfaust” (kind of Bazooka) Training rounds had kind of Aluminium Bolt instead of the “live” Explosive Warhead on the propelling Charge.
The purpose of the blue ones is to have a cheaper and less dangerous ammo for training (they often have a reduced ammount of Propellant and through that – range).
The ones in the Picture are 25mm rounds (you can read that on one of ‘em, my guess would be they’re for the Bushmaster Chain Gun of a Bradley). With those it’s most probably a kind of Aluminium Jacket with a kind of plaster filling.
March 16, 2011 at 10:42 pm
Thank you
March 16, 2011 at 3:59 pm
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March 16, 2011 at 10:26 pm
technically no, they’re blue bullets, but blue tipped rounds. the bullet itself is blue.
BLUE.
March 16, 2011 at 10:32 pm
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March 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm
No. Blue is NATO standard for training rounds. Like Olaf and Synthetics said already. They are ballistically equivalent to the ‘live’ or ‘service’ rounds, but without the explosive charge in them. Used for wooden targets on the ranges.
Why some civi company would paint their little bullets blue in blatant disregard for that standard is beyond me. Mind you a blue sabot dart will pretty much fuck up your day just as bad as a black one will.
Canuck tanker here; I had a hell of a good time in Munster, Germany getting qualified on the Leo 2 recently. Also the Reeperbahn in Hamburg… spent a whole paycheck in one weekend there.
March 16, 2011 at 5:28 pm
What you linked here is .50 Cal (12,7mm) Ammunition, Civilian Use; Civilians can paint their Ammo in any colour they like.
But in NATO Military Use “Blue Rounds” is code colour for training ammunition…
March 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm
@ Jesuspocalypse
Right on man! Always wanted to see the insides of the Leo 2, since we both use the same main gun.
I have a question, if you’re able to answer of course.
Our platoons run with 4 tanks, 3 platoons per company and 2 tanks in our HQ platoon.
Are your platoons / companies organized the same way?
March 16, 2011 at 6:26 pm
Basically yeah. We just name em different though. Platoon = Troop, Company = Squadron. 4 tanks per troop, 3 fighting troops per squadron, plus the HQ troop and Admin troop. Armoured guys lower ranked than Corporal are all called Trooper. (same way Artillery: Gunner, Engineers: Sapper)
March 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm
And I’m pretty sure those are 25mm Bushmaster rounds, not .50 cal.
March 16, 2011 at 8:51 pm
Image linked to en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M242_Bushmaster