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January 4, 2011 at 10:24 pm
I agree with all of them. Does that mean I… What does that mean?
January 5, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I don’t agree with putting Anonymous in the chaotic evil spot, they’re much more ‘chaotic good’ to ‘chaotic chaotic’
January 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm
and who in their right fucking mind would put fucking Patton as chaotic?
January 7, 2011 at 12:14 pm
Well, considering no two people can agree with what lawful and chaotic mean, it’s pretty much a crapshot.
January 7, 2011 at 7:10 pm
I would. War defines chaos, and in a peaceful time, Patton was lost. He did what he thought needed to be done to complete the mission he was given, regardless of the law or rules.
January 8, 2011 at 4:50 am
I think Patton had his own code really. He shouldn’t be in the Chaotic side, but I didn’t make it. If I had, Hitler would be Chaotic evil.
January 7, 2011 at 11:49 am
Chaotic good and neutral evil
January 7, 2011 at 12:28 pm
Lincoln should not be lawful. He violated more laws up to and including the Constitution which he was sworn to uphold, invoke God as his Judge. There is no doubt that he violated that oath. He could not be considered Lawful under any measure.
As to good, this to he can not be considered. HE is responsible for the deaths of more Americans then any other person in history. HE is responsible for dividing families, making kids fight their fathers, brother verses their brothers….if you consider what he did, and wrote it out as a plan instead of history, it sounds like the plot of an evil mastermind.
Considering all of this, he could be Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil.
January 7, 2011 at 1:16 pm
While I agree with everything you said, it’s really difficult to think of major historical figures that really qualify as lawful good. Most of history’s “good guys” were law-breakers
January 7, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Is it still an oath if you don’t believe in the Christian god?
Anyways, I can’t think of any USAdish branch of government that protects and upholds the entire constitution nowadays.
January 7, 2011 at 6:11 pm
An oath is just an affirmation of something sacred to the oath taker, it doesn’t require any god, christian or not.
As for what “protects and upholds the entire constitution nowadays”, that is not a branch of government that has the responsible, but people. Actually, it’s all of us as individuals whose responsibility is to protect and uphold the constitution, because as soon as you let someone else have that responsibility than that is the day you have lost it.
January 7, 2011 at 7:47 pm
It is not just the Christian God, but the God of the Jews and the Moslims. Although I if you were a Hindu you could swear an oath to one of the many gods you have to pick from. And of course you are right Korinthian, but that is a different issue.
January 7, 2011 at 3:58 pm
Lincoln was responsible for deaths and families split? Wow, now that is revisionist bullshit.
Who seceded? Or is your point that he didn’t let them.
January 7, 2011 at 4:41 pm
IMO, he should have let them secede. The US was founded on the principle that if the central government isn’t working out then secession is justified. OTOH, instead of violently seceding the Southern states could have worked to amend the Constitution to have an explicit exit clause, then exercised that clause. Neither side was faultless.
January 7, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I do agree with your statement, but if it took a war to end the shame of the slavery (which was a compromise in the first place to secure a fledgling nation) then I agree with Lincoln’s actions, because in a imperfect real world, the ends always justifies the means.
January 7, 2011 at 7:59 pm
The Matrix: Rebooted
The Confederacy did not succeed violently until after Federal troops refused to territory inside of an Independent County). If Japan told the U.S. to remove their bases, and the U.S. refused, Japan would be justified in the use of force.
In addition, there was no need to amend the Constitution is a clause in the with addresses this issue explicitly.
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people”
January 7, 2011 at 11:07 pm
They seceded because their guy didn’t win the presidency! How lame is that? (So lame that the gov of Texas wanted to do the same when Obama won) The South were poor losers then and still are.
January 7, 2011 at 7:52 pm
The point his he had no Constitutional authority to stop them, he violated the Constitution and acted against the law. He arrested sitting Senators and threaten Judges, disregarding the U.S. Supreme court.
Lincoln was the war that waged an illegal war. Lincoln was/is responsible.
January 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Riiiiight. Why am I not surprised to hear neo confederate bullshit coming from you?
The South Shall Rise Again!
Shit Floats.
January 8, 2011 at 5:05 am
Appointed Representatives of The 13 colonies all signed the declaration of Independence, Constitution, and agreed to the Bill of Rights.
The fact of the matter is that the southern states didn’t secede over the central government not working. They left because they wanted to continue to own slaves.
They signed a document that specifically states “All Men Are Created Equal”. If they hadn’t signed, America would most likely still be an English territory. And England had abolished slavery before America did.
In secession documents, they specifically refer to the the abolish of slavery as a key reason for the secession.
That was the act that started the war. Lincoln ended it.
January 8, 2011 at 8:53 pm
Depends on what states you are talking about. And regardless of if you agree with slavery (It was wrong IMHO), the Constitution does and did not give the Federal Government the power to interfere. The abolitionists could have ended it with a Constitutionally amendment, they did not, what they did was illegal.
The Northern and Western States of the Confederacy (Texas, Virgina – for example) succeeded because Lincoln Illegally raised a huge Federal army, and those States feared invasion and occupation. Maryland was occupied for the duration of the War.
Some state may have because of Federal intervention where is was not Constitutional. All powers not here within are reserved the States…..
January 7, 2011 at 1:12 pm
I’d say Darwin was one of the good guys (at least we know whoever made this chart isn’t a creationist). I’ve heard some bad things about Che, btw, I’m not so sure he’s neutral either.
January 7, 2011 at 5:23 pm
True, but being a scientist is about being neutral.
January 7, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Mojo Jojo begs to differ.
January 7, 2011 at 11:10 pm
Being neutral until you have evidence, maybe, but Darwin was stridently anti-slavery.
On the other hand, Ghandi was a pedophile.
January 7, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Chaotic neutral forever.
January 9, 2011 at 7:41 pm
how does setting niggers free to rampage across america count as lawful good