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A surprising and encouraging advertisement in Fort Worth, TX.



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    Kishi

    Because the best way to fight religion is through evangelical atheism.

    Korinthian

    Hardly the same. Organizations must have the same right as anyone else to advertize. No atheist is going door to door or hanging atheist banners in court or in school.

    How do you suggest we fight religion?

    W

    Why do they have to fight it at all? If you don’t believe, why do you care?

    PatientZed

    Because you keep demonising us in the media, remember? Stop poking and we’ll stop fighting back and then you can back to your invisible sky wizard and we can back to being useful.

    Korinthian

    Because religious people want to legislate their beliefs. Because letting ignorance and gullibility be is to encourage it. Because children, women and homosexuals are victims under a religious majority. And because beating any religion is easy with facts and reality on your side.

    You’re free to sit down and shut up, but atheists have done just that for too long now. So go protest Jesus signs, or keep on being a hypocrite.

    Gary Generic

    Because religious people want to legislate their beliefs. Because letting ignorance and gullibility be is to encourage it. Because children, women and homosexuals are victims under a religious majority.

    QFT

    The Abrahamic religions are misogynistic hate groups that endorse slavery. In fact, if you are to read the Bible, you’d see it’s principles, rationalizations, motivations, demands of and punishments bestowed by God upon His followers, you’d see, even if you refuse to admit it, that its probably the most anti-American novel ever written. It espouses a Dictatorship over Democracy, Communism over Capitalism, slavery over freedom. Women are chattel, mere property to be listed amongst a man’s possessions. Etc, etc.

    Religion is the greatest stultifying factor in human development as a society. There is no argument against this and the feel-good warm fuzzies a few billion ignorant people receive hardly outweigh negative impact belief in an invisible giant has on the populations of Earth.

    100110110110010

    Because credulous religious people keep bombing us:
    9/11.
    Oklahoma City.
    The Cola Wars.
    When religion goes away all conflict will end and mankind will be able to live in peace and serenity, free from delusion and hardship.

    W

    So there will never be conflict over land, oil, food, etc..?

    nyoki

    I sincerely hope he forgot to add the ¶.

    gor

    I noticed that atheist never dare to point their criticism directly toward Muslims, but Christians are fair game. Kind of like PETA members that only protest directly against old women who wear fur, but never against leather clad bikers.

    W

    I agree.

    Gary Generic

    Atheist point their finger at Islam first, and most viciously. The problem with eradicating such a vile cancer from the world is that Christians actually stand in the way, particularly Moderates.

    storminator

    mohammed can suck my dick. So can allah.

    gor

    Very good, that’s a star. Now do something public like protest outside a Mosque, making a Facebook page or a billboard with your name on it. That would really show belief in your statement.

    DaCheetah

    I disapprove of each equally. From what I’ve read, Muslims and Christians believe in almost exactly the same thing as Muslims anyway. The same god by different names, and with only small differences regarding things like prophets and messiahs.

    I don’t go around publicly protesting any religion, people are free to believe what they want, the only reasons I argue in a more anti-Christian way than anti-Muslim, is because Christian’s tend to start more the arguments with me (usually because they are more likely to be trying to aggressively convert people), and because I know more about Christianity. (I’ve read the Bible (King James Edition), but only read the summaries and comments of those who have read the Koran, never having read it makes it a lot harder to poke holes in.)

    gor

    I also love to poke holes at Christians who push their faith on me. I agree Christians tend to start more arguments defending or promoting their faith, but that is where it ends. Muslims have a tendency not have much of a dialogue, they just fucking kill you.

    Islam is the only major religion where it dictated their “sacred” text to kill unbelievers and those that leave the religion. Don’t just read the Koran (which is bad enough), also read the Hadith which is their jurisprudence.

    Maxwell Edison

    Just google “Christians killing nonbelievers”

    Deuteronomy 13:7-12
    If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.

    Deuteronomy 17:2-5
    If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant; And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; And it be told thee, and thou hast heard of it, and enquired diligently, and, behold, it be true, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought in Israel; Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die.

    There’s that. To be fair, it’s saying people who believe in other gods, not people who don’t believe in any gods. Those were the actual dictates to all people at all times. There are other examples where a particular group of believers killed some other group of nonbelievers, but those are stories, not commands.

    gor

    That was Old Testament, not New Testament. Though I am not a Christion, Jesus did preach about Love and Forgiveness which changed many of the aspects of the old teachings, like “Those without sin, may cast the first stone”, almost all Christians follow the words of Jesus than the Old Testament. Whereas almost all Muslims follow the commands as dictated by Mohammad, which are extremely bloody.

    More to the point, when was that last time a country’s government condemed a person to death for violating Deuternomy? Now guess how many Muslim governments executed people for violating the Koran or Hadith just last year alone.

    Maxwell Edison

    The 10 Commandments were OT, and they say they follow those. I know, the Christians get to pick which parts of the OT they like. I’m not offering an opinion one way or the other on that. I’m just telling you that your statement is not true. It IS dictaed, by God, to kill nonbelievers, and those who leave the religion, in their own sacred text.

    gor

    Point taken, but going by modern behavior, who is more likely to kill you and your family because you are a non-beleiver, a Christian or a Muslim?

    Korinthian

    In USA: a Christian. In the Arab world: a Muslim.

    PatientZed

    Gee, I wonder if it’s because that’s an American bus in an American terminal in an American city in an American state in the United States of America.

    Also, what’s the difference? Jehova, God, Allah. Same shit, different names.

    Korinthian

    You’re ignorant. Atheists do this all the time, but I bet you’re way too sheltered and misinformed to know. Sam Harris has criticized Muslims. Richard Dawkins has as well. Christopher Hitchens? Yep, him too. The biggest science blog in the world (who is run by an atheist) does as well. Atheist pod-casts? Heard it there as well.

    Fuck Allah and his prophet, and shame on people like you, who needs to think because they speak.

    Korinthian

    Before* (Because fits too, but still).

    The Matrix: Rebooted

    This particular advertisement isn’t criticizing Muslims or Christians. Merely stating the fact that there are millions of Atheist isn’t that offensive, is it?

    gor

    I agree, but what would happen if this advertisement was placed in an area that had a Muslim majority?

    goatsgomoo

    Christianity is more popular than Islam in the US. Of course people are going to speak out about what affects them more.

    Cy85

    Wow, my hometown in the news for something *other* than drug busts and murders.

    www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/12/01/104524/atheist-ads-turn-up-on-buses-in.html

    RSIxidor

    Hey, I hear they have cows there, too.

    asymon

    you people better buy some food for poor, instead of paying for bus ads!

    /grins/

    PatientZed

    Why?

    Gary Generic

    To this I would argue that not only are atheists charitable, we give without promise of eternal posthumous rewards.

    As a side note, the Church had billions in it’s hoard, enough to cure world hunger for literally years.

    Maxwell Edison

    Are there no prisons? Are there no work houses?

    nyoki

    There must be one or two left.

    W

    Merry Christmas!

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