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December 5, 2010 at 1:43 pm
The US, schools do get all the money they need. We spend more money on education that just about any country, but the system still sucks. Some problems just can’t be solved by throwing more money at them.
December 6, 2010 at 3:57 am
I don’t get it, then why is it so expensive for people in the US to go to college. As far as specifics go I’m not well informed but I do know people who have to have two jobs and take loans in order to study, while I don’t have to work at all to afford school if I didn’t want to. If what you said is true, then perhaps the money just isn’t managed properly? Also I’m assuming this is not what you meant by “the system still sucks.”
December 7, 2010 at 6:32 pm
You’re talking about post-secondary education. Since bake sales are usually in the domain of primary education, that’s what I was talking about.
December 9, 2010 at 3:37 am
I see. I thought the bake sales thing was just an analogy.
December 9, 2010 at 9:53 am
Do you have any sources for this?
It’s not that I don’t believe you. It’s just that all my personal experience, anecdotal evidence of colleagues, having had a roommate & family who are teachers, and so on… all tell me the exact opposite.
If you mean gross, that I could imagine that. The United States is the third most populous country in the world, and I’m willing to bet we spend more per child than China & India.
If you mean per child… well, you should see the schools they have here in Switzerland. Or the ones I taught at in Germany. Et cetera.
December 9, 2010 at 10:58 am
Not gross, per student.
In primary eduction, US is #4.
www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_spe_per_pri_sch_stu-spending-per-primary-school-student
In primary education, US is #3.
www.nationmaster.com/graph/edu_spe_per_sec_sch_stu-spending-per-secondary-school-student
December 9, 2010 at 8:11 pm
I’ll be damned.
I guess Switzerland being #1 would explain the quality of schools here. Thanks.
December 23, 2011 at 3:57 pm
It also explains why there is no Swiss equivalent to Michele Bachmann or Rick Perry.
December 6, 2010 at 3:08 am
bullshit. this year my state alone got damn near 30 percent edu cuts. True everywhere else is being hit by the deficit, but its still not fair to put this kind of pressure on children.
Hey airforce dudes, have a damn near unlimited supply of everything you need plus gifts from adoring schoolchildren (we ran a drive for xmas presents last year)
Meanwhile kids have to go through and fund raise and fund raise and it barely does a thing for the school. Schools are stuck with outdated books, poor access to technology, and worse of all the loss of teachers and other district workers thanks to all the cutbacks.
Its kind of sad to see the US’s future generation getting neglected the say it is.
December 6, 2010 at 3:10 am
*way not say
December 9, 2010 at 10:24 pm
The district where I went to school has a $6.7 million dollar deficit.
December 9, 2010 at 11:02 am
More like a cold day in hell. This country will self destruct long before that ever happens.
December 9, 2010 at 12:04 pm
My high school almost lost accreditation because we didn’t have enough books, later we actually ran out of copier paper for a month or two, and most of our English textbooks were hand-me-downs from inner city schools.
However, as much as education is cool, soldiers die when they have sub-par materials which is what they would be given if they had major budget cuts.
And I may be crazy, but I think even my teachers would agree that going without copier paper for a month or two is better than death.
December 9, 2010 at 12:08 pm
And what, the U.S. military doesn’t have cuts in its budget as well. The military budget IS APPROVED BY CONGRESS. And yes, I am biased, but there are so many systems and checks that go into acquiring a product it is mind-boggling. When the military spends money on something, its because they need it.
Contrast that with education systems, where every kid is “valued” as a student, when it is clear by middle school that some students will never go to college and should be taught a vocation instead of a H.S. diploma.
And let’s not even get into the muddy topic of H.S. sports. I played 3 varsity sports for 4 years in H.S., and when contrasted with my time playing club sports in the summer, I would have rather played private league sports than school sports. Cut athletics, keep gym classes, and see the difference it makes.
December 9, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Dumbest post ever.
Seriously whoever made this is a retard.
Fucking hippy bullshit.
It’ll be a great day when pricks who think stupid shit like this die off.
December 9, 2010 at 4:10 pm
As much as I despise casemod, you should take notes. He’s leaps and bounds better at trolling than you are.
December 10, 2010 at 1:35 pm
The hyena avatar is appropriate though.
December 10, 2010 at 11:14 pm
The monocle makes the difference!
December 9, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Or we could just bomb other countries schools so they can keep their kids stupider than ours.
December 9, 2010 at 6:49 pm
I’m in the AF and I’m going to school for education; to eventually teach high school. Bake sale’s are never raised to fund an education. They’re for school trips, various extracurricular activities, and niceties; not necessities. Schools don’t hold bake sales for textbooks or lab equipment, and believe it or not, the AF actually DOES hold bake sales. It helps fund things like Flight or Squadron stateside morale gatherings, or, lo and behold, any extracurricular, off site functions for the Airmen and NCOs so that they don’t have to pay out of their already modest pockets. From wherever the notion came that WE get everything paid for for us, it should go right the hell back. It’s a job like any other, and we have a budget to fuel fighters, and schools have budgets to teach children.
December 9, 2010 at 8:48 pm
Please post pics of an Air Force bake sale.
December 9, 2010 at 11:15 pm
Unfortunately, I can’t take pictures where I work. I can get shots of the AF gift wrapping table outside the PX though. Whether or not this is a ploy for my credibility, a bunch of my Airmen wrapping presents for kids in uniform is always a glorious sight to see; it’s actually a part of “community involvement” for their performance reports.
December 10, 2010 at 12:09 am
That would be great to see. Be sure to post it on some kind of submissions based image website. If only I could think of one at the moment.
December 10, 2010 at 9:23 am
I just happen to have one in mind.
December 9, 2010 at 7:22 pm
I can teach my kid reading writing and arithmetic.
I think it is bull shit that I pay taxes for OTHERS PEOPLES KIDS to learn. If you can not afford the kid, don’t get fucking laid retard.
I think it is crap that people who take the time to HOME SCHOOL their children still have to pay school taxes.
I can’t teach my kid how to fly a bomber. That is why the Air force gets my taxes.
December 9, 2010 at 11:47 pm
I’m a pacifist. Why do I have to pay taxes for other people to bomb foreign counties?
I live on a private road. Why do I have to pay taxes for other people to drive on paved roads?
If my house catches on fire, I can put it out. Why do I have to pay taxes to support a fire department for other people?
Come to think of it, why do I have to pay for ANY government service I don’t use.
The libertarian mindset is hilarious.
December 10, 2010 at 12:11 am
I was going to respond as you did, but then I remembered that this guy is a troll. He’s not looking for a meaningful response, but he’s asking for a punch in the face.