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    Alec Dalek
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    Yay, we’re killers!

    DaftGhosty
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    Funny how people seem to forget American didn’t start the war with Japan. An Invasion of Japan’s mainland to end the war would have cost between 500,000 to 2,000,000 american lives, and extended the war till around 1948. The loss of Japanese lives would have been about six to seven times the loss of american soldiers.

    Another fun fact too. More japanese died to American fire bombing of japan then the atomic bombs. In fact more died on the first fire bombing raid then both of the atomic bombs deaths combined.

    ian356094
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    Was just about to say that. Word up.

    Destrucctaur
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    Destrucctaur

    Nothing of what you or any other apologist says justifies the exploding of two atomic bombs in populated cities. It was a gesture towards the Soviets, and one with a considerable human cost.

    DaftGhosty
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    I love when people try to rewrite history =) A simple study of history, and the facts, and you understand really fast the bombs were dropped to save american lives. The numbers hold true. Place that number in front of the commander and chief, and tell him a war that wasn’t started by America, and could be ended sooner, and save at the top end millions of american lives, by dropping at that time a very powerful, and not well understood atomic bomb, or to go the invasion rout and lose at the low end 200,000 american lives. Yeah it… Read more »

    Destrucctaur
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    Destrucctaur

    I didn’t bother reading all you wrote – you seem to be quite proficient in apologetics business – but from what I read I summed up that when it comes to choosing methods of attack, the total number of casualties should be the deciding factor. Whether said casualties are civilian or military is secondary. I can’t help but ask if you, had it been your choice, would have either bombed a Japanese orphanage containing 10,000 children or gone through with a battle that costs the lives of 10,000 American soldiers, if both acts would win the war.

    DaftGhosty
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    There you go again with that word “apologetics”. I am hardly in the minority, nor am I leader of any know cause. =P That said, the scenario as you have described it is a unreal situation. You might as well have said would I rather kill 30,000 puppies, or 1 american soldier. Here’s is the issue you are not grasping. An invasion while costing more American lives, would have also cost more then 10 times the civilian lives. This was a known factor. Here is another point you seem to be missing. I find it interesting that you haven’t been… Read more »

    dieAntagonista
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    So under complicated circumstances, dropping bombs solves problems. While that may be true, I still think the world would be better off without any bombs at all. When people fight it’s different. You can argue with people, nobody can argue with a bomb.

    natedog
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    would it be better off without any bombs or without any people? teh answer undoubtedly lies somewhere in the middle.

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    Philosodog is probably right.

    DaftGhosty
    Member

    Sorry I hadn’t noticed that your reply was directed at me. I agree with you 100%. But then again war in general is a horrible thing. Sometimes it is necessary to stop other worse evils, but then sometimes it is a waste of human lives, for the gain of greedy men. Ultimately natedog below has the closer answer.

    TGGeko
    Member

    Violence solves everything.

    Nimbo
    Member

    Force my friends is Violence, the supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived. The contrary opinion, that violence never solves anything, is wishful thinking at its worst. People who forget that, always pay.

    -Jean Rasczak

    gor
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    gor

    To bad people don’t realize that during the mid 30s to the 40s Japan slaughter over 30 million civilian Filipinos, Malays, Vietnamese, Cambodians, Indonesians, and Burmese. 23 million alone of them were ethnic Chinese. People think that Nazis were bad (which they were), but the Japanese were worst. My Japanese mother-in-law was 12 when the war ended and my wife was raised in post-war Japan and they both admit that Imperial Japan did evil deeds and that the atomic bombs did save lives. Another little known fact, within weeks of surrender the Japanese interim government began a secret campaign to… Read more »



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