what the mosque is vs what people act like it is

what the mosque is vs what people act like it is

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    1. Hey is that a Ground Zero construction worker with dark skin and a funny hat, quick someone harass him in the name of justice.

      motherjones.com/mojo/2010/08/ground-zero-was-built-graves-slaves

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    2. Unexpected video from thunderf00t:

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      • Nah, it was predictable. TheTruePooka is where it’s at. Fuck demagogues.

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          • Wasn’t I the person who showed you Criss for the first time? What makes you think I haven’t seen her video.

            His mosque video is not why I called him a demagogue. TF is a demagogue for preaching about the giant and referring to Shock and Awe in that way. He basically promoted war in those videos and he’s a despicable piece of shit. I have no respect for the likes of him and the majority of his subscribers, especially the comments that they leave, prove that no matter what his “noble” intentions were, even people on his side interpreted it as advocating of war and called for the death of Muslims countless times. You like him right? You liked those videos, I know it. Fuck you too then.

            Go to this link to see a piece of evidence that TF would never show you. politics.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2008/03/14/inside-the-minds-of-muslims+.html

            Also in one of his latest videos where he showed “evidence” that most Muslims don’t contribute to science, he actually used data he got from a, oh yeah that’s right, Muslim scientist.

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            • Nope, you showed her to nyokki for the first time. Actually thunderf00t did, which makes this all very weird.

              Someone’s angry… Like with all of these guys that I watch I agree on some points and not others. You know, because I have my own stupid strong opinions.
              Like you saw, I only had a problem if it were on ground zero. But even if it were, I wouldn’t have done more then call them assholes and forgot about it 10 minutes later.

              I never said tf wasn’t an asshole… why are you making me seem like I’m defending him.

              I’ll return after I finish with the link.

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            • What? I linked Criss’ video for you when we were talking about gypsies. And you didn’t talk about her like you already knew her. Whatever, this doesn’t matter, you knew I know her.

              Well ok, maybe you don’t agree with everything TF says but you still linked him, a video in which he talks about their rights for exactly 7 seconds and then continues for 3 minutes to talk about how awful they are. How… balanced and fair? Everything about his latest Islam videos is unnecessarily dramatic, borders on lies and attracted a huge following of people who literally advocate the killing of innocent people because they are Muslim. A following he didn’t have before, before it was almost all about science, back when I was still subscribed to him. Lastly, that link disproves almost the majority of his Islam videos. It also makes fundamentalist Christians look just as bad fundamentalist Muslims, something you’d never hear him say either, at least not the same way he talks about the latter.

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            • Nope, knew her. But indeed, not important.

              I linked it because it surprised me and was about this subject, no other good reason. I don’t know what his trouble is, maybe a Muslim killed his wow character a few times… Fuck cares. But I do miss his why people call creationists stupid. Because, what you said: SCIENCE!

              I never met a Muslim, so I can’t really say anything about them except that they’re like Christians 200 years ago, they’ll grow out of it.

              Oh, and I don’t read comments on youtube, I’m afraid my brain will melt from stupidity anger, so I don’t know anything about his other subscribers.

              Lately everyone on youtube is all up in the mosque issue and it bores me, but not having anything else to do… I watch/listen to them.

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            • After the link reading:

              So? I never cared about Muslims in the first place. I said it was a big “fuck you” to the families. But it’s actually not, so yay.

              I really do hate all religions, ok, maybe not the peaceful ones. In their message, at least… Somehow, even the followers of Buddhism get violent about their religion, but… hey, life’s a bitch.

              So… uhm.. yeah. People are douche bags, religions suck, something-something gypsy.

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            • All right fine, if you say so I’ll believe it.

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            • Here, have an internet hug: [internet hug].

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            • /hugs back

              Only because your WoW character line made me laugh though. You’re still my Romanian arch enemy. FREE THE GYPSIES

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    3. isn’t there already a mosque a couple kilometers away

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    4. Looks like you guys are OK with islam and sharia law, and all that it stands for ?? Just look at England, France, Denmark, Sweden, etc… to see what we’re in for if islam is allowed to flourish here in America.

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    5. mosque in BF2 pre-patched with blackhawk = godlike

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    6. Why do they need a pool when Manhattan is an island? So they can swim away from it after they bring it to ruins.
      Haven’t you seen the videos of Al Qeada using the monkey bars and shit? That’s why the thing is going to have a gym.
      And the prayer room is so they can get those final prayers in before they enact their nefarious plans of Islamoterrorism.
      I haven’t figured out the coffee shop angle yet, but it can be no good.

      It’s an abomination the way these people worship the same god as me but slightly differently.

      *adjusts tin foil hat*

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    7. I have some pics coming, so you can see what islam is about.

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    8. Just another example of the rich and powerful scaring the average stupid American into believing “they” are coming to destroy your way of life… keeps ’em distracted from the real culprits: the rich and powerful who are fucking them every day. The only thing that ever changes is who “they” are.

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    9. Hey I know this isn’t the best place to ask, but can anyone give me an everyday example of Categorical Imperative

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      • Ugh, Kant, calling attention to hypocrites everywhere for 200+ years… Basically, it states that if a moral rule applies to one person it applies to all people or that person doesn’t really believe it, that person is simply an asshole. Essentially, a person cannot be considered reasonable if they pick and choose who to apply their morality to.

        Discussion relevant example:
        “If I believe it is wrong for religious monuments to be near the sites of murders motivated by belief in that religion, then I must accept that Christian churches near the Oklahoma Federal Building and the Shinto shrine near Pearl Harbor are wrong as well, or I must abandon my belief.”

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    10. Why do they need another one there, I.E. NY, they have many. Islam is suppose to peaceful, does that not mean understanding? The guy who is pushing for it is not normal Islam. Bet people would donate for a better place not in the area. Legal yes, but not right for a true peace Islam!

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      • Yeah the funder is really a true cunt case, he owns part of fox news. And the Imam? Don’t even get me started. Fucking helping the CIA counterterrorist department. How dare he keep our interests in front of his religion?

        Why the fuck am I defending any religion anyway? I’m atheist. There’s only 1.8 million in our country. I’ve never had a bad experience with any of them. Can’t we focus on something legitimate going on? Like our country being super-broke and the top 2% owns almost half of all the money? Why can’t we be really fucking angry at them?! Because they fucking own the news…

        And I made these Molotovs for nothing.

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    11. It doesn’t matter what religion it is. I’m against it.

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      • That’s not very first amendmenty/free speachy.

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        • I think you misunderstand the First Amendment. It covers Congress, States, and local governments; Joe-Bob down the street can (or ian356094 on the internet) can do and say what he wants to limit your expression as long as it isn’t harassment.

          I also agree with ian. Designating a community center a “Christian” community center, or a “Polish” or “African-American” one, is just as bad as a “Muslim” community center. Why build a place for the community to congregate and be unified when you divide them immediately by giving it a specific ethnic/religious title?

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      • why fight for others Freedom of religion when we don’t have it in our own country

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        • Building a big ass temple on ground zero would say that they accept / understand why they zerged an airplane into each WTC

          Fuck man its almost the same if they would have zerged the statue of liberty, would they rebuild it into a big statue of mohammed ?

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        • Who says we don’t have religious freedom in the United States? People are unhappy about the construction of Park51, but there have not been any serious proposals to prevent it. The general government consensus, whether it’s local (Bloomberg), State (Patterson), or Federal (Obama), is roughly, “Yeah, it’s in bad taste, but it’s legal so go for it.”

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    12. Oh boo hoo

      We get it. You think you’re doing the right thing when you’re wrong and you want to hammer that home with shitty, not-so-clever pictures.

      What that should read is ‘what it would have been if we hadn’t had the plans for it shut down’ followed by ‘we made this other picture with our fag tears’.

      How about this: we should eradicate the Muslim sub species from the planet with a specially designed virus that attacks the human body via the sweat glands so if you smell like a hockey bag in the middle of winter then you die.

      I don’t actually care about religions but if I’m picking sides its for sure not the cry baby faggots who won’t accept when they’re wrong and keep being wrong over and over rather than learning.

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      • Would you care to enlighten people about how they’re wrong, or are you just going to keep repeating that statement until people roll over and accept it as truth?

        What plans were shut down? It’s still being built and the only detail that’s been changed since the original proposal is the name (to Park51 from Cordoba House).

        Why pick a side when you can look at the available information and make in informed decision? You probably don’t have time to go through all of that information, so instead of staying out of the discussion you comment from a position of ignorance. I don’t think it should be built either, but at least I can accurately use scientific terms, specifically one that has had the same accepted definition for decades. Homo habilis was a subspecies, and if you really think homo sapiens is still polytypic, Arabs would be a breed, anyway; “Muslims” are adherents to the belief culture of Islam. At least be accurately bigoted, because you’re making an idiot of yourself.

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        • They’re/you’re wrong because its stupid to be a cunt bitch and whine because you couldn’t stick your supposed nothing mosque where you want.

          If it is so small then grow the fuck up and accept that by putting that there you create a problem.

          The problem? Go ask someone HOW ACTUALLY LIVES OR HAS LIVED IN NYC you hick faggot.

          Who the holy hell cares about the specifics and sub categories of cave men?

          I’m sure you’re very welled educated on shit skins and their barbaric “religion”. Some of us took things in school that are useful.

          Oh but wait…you think you look better right now. Riiiiiight.

          Oh and what has been shit down?

          The whole thing. Its still being planned but permits are being denied and your own president backing it caused his biggest approval rating slip yet. Planned is different. I guess you don’t quite know everything huh?

          Do yourself a favour and give up the crusade. Oh and enjoy the arab cock. Just don’t suck any in their homeland or those poor victims who just want to be loved will shoot you in front of a cheering crowd.

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          • 1: It’s not my mosque and I’m not sticking anything anywhere. More importantly, what are you talking about when you type “you couldn’t stick your supposed nothing mosque where you want” ? It’s being built! What permits have been denied? I haven’t read anything about that. Would you happen to have a source? Because if I’m wrong I definitely would like to know it.

            2: Did you read what I posted? I agree that it causes problems.

            3: I live in the second largest city in New York State with someone who grew up in New York City. My friend John Farrel died on 9/11/2001.

            4: You brought it up the subspecies crap, I just corrected you.

            5: I learned in Philosophy, Sociology, and Secondary Education (History). I find them fairly useful.

            6: How do you figure Obama is my president? Crusade? I’m an anti-theist, thanks. And thanks for spreading homophobia, too, by acting like there’s something wrong with enjoying cock. You should try visiting one of those homelands you malign, I think you would fit right in.

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            • Don’t worry about Maggie, Dan. Hes not very bright, can’t deal with people who have opinions, just spouts far right shit because it gets him attention, and freaks the fuck out at seeing commas. I think he earned his MFA in the proper use of commas.

              Despite sounding like a Glenn Beck clown, Mags is a Canadian, and has never seen Fox News. He also is rich, handsome, physically fit, a world traveler, better than you in every way, oh, and a shameless liar.

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    13. Puulaahi, this one is for you, not that I think you have a mind that is open enough to watch the entire thing.
      A mind is like a parachute, it works best when open.

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      • The guy who wants to build the community center has worked for the FBI and held speeches were he talked about “westernizing Islam.” If you are so worried about Islam, I suggest you support the guy. 1.5 billion people are not going to disappear and I doubt you have a better plan.

        Also yeah Puulaahi is so much more close minded than you, wait wasn’t it you who equated the First Lady with some random African woman just because they’re both black? Your mind is about as open as that of an orangutan and you’re a sad little prejudiced man.

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    14. Whatever happened to the 1st Amendment? You know. FREEDOM OF RELIGION!

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    15. The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with non-believers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding.
      Unfortunately, there are very few verses of tolerance and peace to abrogate or even balance out the many that call for nonbelievers to be fought and subdued until they either accept humiliation, convert to Islam, or are killed. This proclivity toward violence – and Muhammad’s own martial legacy – has left a trail of blood and tears across world history.

      Qur’an (8:39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah”

      Qur’an (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

      Qur’an (2:191-193) – “And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]…and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.”

      Qur’an (2:244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things.”

      Qur’an (2:216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not.”

      Qur’an (3:56) – “As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.”

      Qur’an (3:151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority”.

      Qur’an (4:74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.”

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      • “To discriminate against a thoroughly upright citizen because he belongs to some particular church, or because, like Abraham Lincoln, he has not avowed his allegiance to any church, is an outrage against the liberty of conscience, which is one of the foundations of American life.”

        – Roosevelt’s letter on religious liberty

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    16. There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.
      The proposed “Cordoba House” overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks – is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.
      Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to “symbolize interfaith cooperation” when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.
      Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for “religious toleration” are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City. Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia. In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca. A non-muslim cannot even enter a mosque.
      And they lecture us about tolerance.
      If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign.
      We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million mega-mosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating surprise attack in American history.
      Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources.
      America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.

      No mosque. No self deception. No surrender. The time to take a stand is now – at this site, on this issue.?

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    17. There ain’t nuttin they do that’s wrong, in THEIR own minds:

      beat up your wife and kids? allowed;
      kill your wife if she cheats on you? allowed;
      kill your kids if they diss you? allowed;
      have sex with 10 year old kids? allowed;
      have sex with goats, donkeys etc.? allowed;
      Kill anybody who doesn’t agree with your religion? allowed;
      blow yourself up while standing in a crowded market place? allowed;
      blow up school buses full of children? allowed;
      fly jetliners into tall buildings, killing thousands? allowed;
      kill homosexuals? allowed;
      public lashings, stonings and executions? allowed.

      About the only thing they can’t do is drink booze.

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    18. islamic fundamentalism is a cult-like process that indoctrinates masses of people in unison in order to convert them to become seekers of salvation by death, in order to establish an Islamic theocracy, where sharia law takes over the entire laws of a society in which islam and muslims are dominate, and non-muslims are subservient.

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    19. Mosques pose a moral and political threat to the foundation of our country.
      They are not part of a religious movement, but a political one designed
      to fracture the moral and political foundation of America.
      Until the muslim community find it in their hearts to separate themselves
      from their evil, radical counterparts, to condemn those who want to destroy
      our civilization and will fight against them, we are not obligated to open our
      society to any of them.

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    20. Don’t want to give up your first amendment rights ?? Then are we going to be able to pray in school, or have a Nativity scene at Christmas ? Love these guys who all of a sudden defend the 1st Amendment when for years they’ve been tearing it down, piece by piece.
      Can we get that cross put back up in the desert please ??

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    21. islamization’ of Paris a Warning to the West

      PARIS – Friday in Paris. A hidden camera shows streets blocked by huge crowds of Muslim worshipers and enforced by a private security force.
      This is all illegal in France: the public worship, the blocked streets, and the private security. But the police have been ordered not to intervene.

      www.cbn.com/cbnnews/world/2010/August/Islamization-of-Paris-a-Warning-to-the-West/

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    22. “Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar! Allah Akbar!”
      Last words from the cockpit of Flight 93.

      Iran
      “Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless.
      Islam says: ‘Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Kill them, put them to the sword and scatter their armies.’”
      The Ayatollah Khomeini

      “I am one of the servants of Allah. We do our duty of fighting for the sake of the religion of Allah.
      It is also our duty to send a call to all the people of the world to enjoy this great light and to embrace
      Islam and experience the happiness in Islam. Our primary mission is nothing but the furthering of this religion.”
      Osama bin Laden, May 1998

      Indonesia
      “Keep on fighting for the application of Islamic law. If this state and nation wants to become great, safe,
      and at peace then it has to return to Islam one hundred percent without bargaining. If not, then it will be destroyed.”
      Abu Bakar Bashir, spiritual leader of the Indonesian Mujahideen

      Egypt
      “Allah is our objective, the Quran is our Constitution, the Prophet is our leader, Jihad is our way, and death
      for the sake of Allah is the highest of our aspirations.”
      Credo of the Muslim Brotherhood, which has spawned attacks and numerous subsidiary terrorist organizations

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    23. They scream for religious freedoms, yet will NOT allow any religion save their own. There’s over 100 mosques in NYC alone; how many churches or synagogues are there at Mecca ??
      Hypocrisy at it’s finest.

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    24. rainman97361 massively owned this thread.

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    25. Middle East History – Lebanon Was Destroyed From Within By Muslims
      Hear it for yourself from a survivor:

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    26. My point is that in christian/muslim conflict, it is islam that starts the fight. Christianity doesn’t aspire to world domination by force as does islam.

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    27. islam is not just a religion as it is a political way of life. sharia law is not compatible with the US constitution. I make the following argument: The First Amendment is not absolute. You cannot yell fire in a crowded theater when there is none. You can’t create a religion that makes marijuana its Eucharist. The Mormons were forced to give up polygamy in order to get statehood. If islam wants to be considered a religion here in the US,(with all the rights and privileges) then it must give up sharia law that is in conflict with the US Constitution. They must denounce polygamy. The must denounce their prophet’s claim about “killing the non-believer wherever you find him” and any other claim of violence that is dictated in the quran. In other words, they will have to gut most of its major tenets.

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      • Are you stupid? Do you even know what catholic mean, or do you think it’s only a religion’s name, not an actual word?

        Muslims in the U.S. don’t follow Sharia as they do in parts of the Middle East. Most of them aren’t radical people, not as much as the evangelicals are in the mid-west. If you’re worried a religion is going to destroy America, I would look at them, not Islam.

        Muslims don’t marry multiple wives and kill their children in the U.S. If they try, they are punished by the law. The law of the land comes above any religion here, thus denouncing it or not would make no difference.

        And don’t give that “ISLAM IS RADICAL” spiel either, Muslims were THE most liberal and one of the most progressive people for most of their existence, their radicalism only truly surfacing in the last 50 years. Meanwhile, Christians and Catholics and Jews and all other religions have gathered a body count much greater than the Muslim, individually, I might add.

        Vows of violence are in all religious books, including the bible, and Jewish oral tradition. The Koran is nothing special. What is special is that the Muslim caliphates allowed “people of the book”, meaning Christians and Jews live on their same land while the Catholics killed any heathen in Europe, as well as the Christians.

        You’re a twat, go fuck your self.

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    28. But God’s law is above, you must agree that God’s is infallible and those who create law (even George Washington) aren’t.

      Also, you said that “christian/muslim conflict, it is islam that starts the fight. Christianity doesn’t aspire to world domination by force as does islam”.

      Don’t you agree that George Bush invaded Iraq because he was aspiring to world domination? And he is some kind of newborn christian.

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      • I have no idea about Bush’s motive. I wasn’t privy to all the intel he would have had to base his decision on. I’m not entirely for OR against that issue, but I am most definitely FOR fighting islamic terrorists wherever they might be found.

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