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    Phyreblade
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    Needs moar planes.

    nyoki
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    I didn’t even know Russia had carriers.

    RSIxidor
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    I did not even know Russia had boats anymore.

    gor
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    gor

    This is the Russian carrier Adm. Kuznetsov. Looks kinda of cool, but is actually a piece of crap.

    The_Hanz
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    Russia does not have carriers as the USA does, they have aircraft carrying heavy cruisers. This is mainly because, if I remember correctly, an agreement they have with Turkey not to have carriers in the Mediterranean. Russia has a different philosophy on naval warfare than the US and a much smaller budget. Their navy doesn’t center around aircraft carriers. The supercarriers of the US Navy are more vulnerable than most people think. Anyone who says otherwise doesn’t know enough about foreign militaries. The purpose of the US Navy is to project power, which no one can match. The purpose of… Read more »

    Phyreblade
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    Russia has aircraft that carry heavy cruisers? Wow… I’m not sure anyone has anything as awesome as that. How big do your aircraft have to be to carry heavy cruisers? Are they like in dry dock in the cargo hold? LOL… Sorry. Couldn’t resist, I understand what you are saying, I’m just messing with ya. But while it is true that part of the role of the US supercarrier was initially to project power, I should also point out that US supercarriers are actually not quite as vulnerable as you seem to believe. Not necessarily because they are invulnerable to… Read more »

    gor
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    gor

    This carrier is the Russians sad attempt to make a US style flat-top carrier. The reason the Soviets didn’t go for a more surface heavy type navy is because they opted for a heavy-sided submarine force, because it planned it war theory on holding off the US while they fought their expected war on western europe soil. The only reason the Russians have this carrier is only for their national pride. A carrier fleet is one of the most complex and capable military forces ever invented and it takes decades just to become proficient and a few more decades to… Read more »

    The_Hanz
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    I do agree with most of what you say. Let’s keep in mind though that there are some pretty clever people in other countries thinking up ways of sinking those floating cities or at least limit their sphere of influence. In the last 20 years there have been huge advances in SAM technology, largely as a result of Desert Storm. The Navy is trying to figure out to stop huge amounts of high speed missiles from reaching their carriers. At the current time, they wouldn’t be able to stop them all. Even if the carrier isn’t sunk by high speed… Read more »

    Big Iff
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    Hey Hanz, WTF are you talking about? I’m not sure where you get your info from but, it aint right.

    Phyreblade
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    Hanz, You speak as though there are no clever people in the good old U. S. of A. There are clever people on all sides. Personally, I believe the F-22 to be the most technologically sophisticated 5th Generation fighter in the world, however I will admit to being biased. I know Russia is still working on a 5th generation to match it, and the specs i’ve been seeing so far strongly suggest that you have a winner in your hands with fighters like the new Sukhoi. But this is all a moot point. We can talk of the pros and… Read more »

    gor
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    gor

    You’re right that the US should be concern about other countries abilities (as should all responsible governments). You talk well about weapons and vehicle capabilities, but not much about putting bombs on target, which requires knowledge where the target is. That’s the nice thing about a Carrier Battle Group, where it now is not where it will be an hour from now when the weapons are launched (which can’t be said about Air Force bases). Carrier Battle Groups also have defense in depth (a carrier NEVER goes to sea alone) and the US owns the high ground (space). The US… Read more »

    Big Iff
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    Freakin F-22 came out when? SU whatever still has yet to hit the pavement. Where is the argument? MIG’s fall apart regularly and F-16’s rule the sky. Russian steam punk planes are just that.

    okcomputer
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    F-16’s are land based aircraft, F-18’s can be both carrier based and land based.

    Big Iff
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    Give that man a prize!

    E-3 Sentry’s are land based, E-2 Hawkeye’s can be both carrier based and land based.

    Do I get a prize too?



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