Left vs Right (World)

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“There are two versions with different colours: a US and a World version. This is because the US and Switzerland are the only countries in the world where red = right wing and blue = left wing.”

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    1. RSIxidor says:

      I learned something new today.

      Political parties in the US have been all kinds of flip flop throughout our history, so I’m really not surprised that we’re different this way.

    2. This is not a pick left or right thing. For example I found that I have things in common with the right wing, even though my beliefs are left. It’s statistics illustrated, combined with the general perception of these ideas. Actually all my liberal friends that I have shown this had to admit that they have more in common with the right than they thought.

    3. Malta Soron says:

      @dieA: That’s because a one-dimensional system is oversimplified. There are a lot of other systems for describing the political spectrum that use at least two dimensions (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum lists a bunch). Personally, I’d use three axes: personal freedom vs social control, economical freedom vs state control and progression vs conservatism.

    4. ack says:

      I have found that I have women on the left like to talk about kinky sex, but seldom deliver the goods.

      However, women on the right will not discuss it, but are actually better at kinky sex. And are more discrete.

      Example – catholic high school girls.

      Say… is that off-topic?

    5. @Malta Soron

      I am well aware of that, what I was trying to say is how both sides have things in common. It’s not all red and blue, there are shades of purple. (Hai Sticky)
      Those are nice categories, but I think it would be a lot harder to illustrate those in a picture. Not to mention that statistics are probably not available either, that’s why this is oversimplified.

    6. ack says:

      Wow. A political science discussion on MCS.

      This will look good squeezed between Casemods photo-trolling and pictures anime twat pictures.

      Wassap D? Are you full Vegan now or do you still occasionally consume flesh of the beast?

    7. I feel flattered now, which is probably bad. I’m good mister C to the K. Yah I’m vegan, why did you have to bring that up. Everyone will hate me now. But when you say flesh of the beast, are you referring to naughty things. I attended a catholic all girls school, you know. Ahahah.

    8. Gilly says:

      Red or blue, left or right…they’re all wrong ~

    9. TGGeko says:

      This is quite interesting, however, I do feel towards the middle, but slightly right.

    10. noodles says:

      The neat little 2 dimensional boxes are a poor reflection of societies views, but if you must do it, do it right. Since when was the left about government interferences in people’s social lives? The left is for gay rights, while the right wants to wiretape your phones. Doesn’t make sense.

      Oh and the colors are reversed.

    11. ack says:

      Say… I was referring to animal meat, but if went to a Catholic school… I humbly submit to your repressed desires.

      You know something, if you own a latex nun costume – this could be love. Seriously. I would beg.

      BTW… as an informed Vegan-chick, you can answer a question for me. I have to know what Vegans put BBQ sauce on. That is the only thing I don’t understand. Living off of the veg is fine and all, however I cannot imagine a life without BBQ sauce. Preferably on some pork ribs.

    12. @noodles

      Your little accusation there, “The left is for gay rights, while the right wants to wiretape your phones.” is far more 2 dimensional than this post. And biased. I have a good friend, he’s a republican and supports gay rights, welcome to the purple world.
      About the colours, next time maybe read the entire text in a post, it really isn’t that much.

      @ack

      Haha, how kind of you. I do wish I owned a latex nun costume. However I own a chequered 80s dress that’s made of latex! It belonged to my mother, oddly enough.

      I have never even seen BBQ sauce. Only recently did I go to an actual BBQ, uninvited, to look at normal people and what they do in their free time. For the first time I saw one of those sausages, that has cheese in them. I didn’t know they made those. It was pretty funny, I was watching this woman eat one when a little cheese came out and I was like, oh yeah I think maybe you want to get a fresher sausage.

    13. noodles says:

      dieAntagonista

      I think you’re missing my point. I’m saying, if this graphic insists on painting our societal political views into 2 boxes, they should be consistent about it. In general, the conservative right wing is against gay rights. Obviously there are logcabin conservatives, homophobic democrats, etc etc. I’m just pointing out that if they’re going for the stereotypical stance of the right and the left, which is what this graphic appears to be trying to do, than they’re being inconsistent.

      I don’t fall into either category in the least, and I definitely feel that both major parties are out of touch with the true issues and values of Americans. My personal views tend to lean left, and I’m too pragmatic to vote for a longshot candidate, so I often reluctantly vote democrat. I cringe every time I do it, but you gotta keep the Sarah Palin’s of the world as far away from power as possible…

      As to the colors, when I clicked on the link originally, only the graphic appeared on my browser, didn’t see the caption.

    14. noodles says:

      Also, why use an outline of the US capitol building, but then use the color scheme that isn’t recognized in American politics?

    15. noodles,

      They used statistics for the picture, what more is there to be said? You can look up political views anywhere, in any book – they won’t all be the exact same. Again who said they were going for the stereotypical stance, they used statistics for the data, and general sources for the views themselves. Being against gay rights is not an actual part of the republican view. It’s just an awful trend that is still acceptable for some reason.

      Because the US capitol building isn’t the only building that looks like that, there are many similar ones and this one is widely recognised. Also because the creator only switched the colours for the US version.

      Anyway yeah you’re right for the most part, categorising isn’t exactly productive, but this is mostly informational and I posted it because I liked how it wasn’t biased, trying to make either side look like crazies. Honestly, after looking at it like this, it really made me understand what goes on in an average republican brain. They just have different values. Aside from the being against gay rights part, which is a lack of values.

      I don’t know what you would call me, but I’ve been called a liberal before I even knew what that word meant.

    16. noodles says:

      Yeah, you’d be doing yourself a disservice by calling yourself a liberal, or conservative. Words like those only serve to make it easy for people to lump anybody who they disagree with into one big group.

      They did use stats, that doesn’t mean a whole lot: www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728/ (a must read)

      In 2004, the Republican Party publicly supported the Federal Marriage Amendment, stating that marriage is between a man and a woman on a national level. Not only does this go against the Republican value of limited federal intervention on states’ rights, but is very much against gay rights as well.

    17. Haha well maybe. It’s true about the, people using terms like liberal to make false assumptions about you but it also depends on who you’re talking to. If you know someone has a clue and can be objective, saying you’re a liberal can save you time going over every political detail until you can actually discuss things.

      I have heard a lot about that book, How to Lie with Statistics. However what I would recommend is the Fallacies and Argument Appraisal from Cambridge. It has a section about how to deal with statistics, when they are incorrect and how people or the media abuses them. It’s incredible how many well respected media outlets do just that with statistics.

      I didn’t mean that the information here was 100% correct because they used statistics, just that they used a different source than their mere opinion to create it. Can opinions be considered sources though? Haha. I’m sure you know what I mean.

      “In 2004, the Republican Party publicly supported the Federal Marriage Amendment, stating that marriage is between a man and a woman on a national level.”

      Ah yes but that happened only in America, right. Anyway I agree, it goes absolutely against “the Republican value of limited federal intervention on states’ rights”, you said that very well. I didn’t know about it, I admit that, but the fact that there are countries or even individual people that are republican and support gay rights shows that it’s possible, even if they’re more traditional than the rest.

      I’ll see if I can get the book, this was very pleasant after all.

    18. The Matrix: Rebooted says:

      “If by a Liberal, they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind… Someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions… Someone who cares about the welfare of the people—their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, their civil liberties…Someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and the suspicion that grips us… If that is what they mean by a Liberal… Then I am proud to say I am a Liberal.”
      -JFK

    19. ack says:

      No. I meant “Liberal” as in “ass pirate”.
      -ack

    20. noodles says:

      Thanks Antagonista, I’ll check that book out too. Also, that InformationIsBeautiful website is awesome!

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