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August 22, 2009 at 9:10 am
Hitler’s agents are gay jews.
August 22, 2009 at 9:12 am
Damm right you fucking wetback, go back to africa, where you and your stupid asians can eat rice.
HAIL HITLER!!!
August 22, 2009 at 9:23 am
I’m still wondering what the Republican thought process is for calling Jews ‘Nazis.’ This is the second time in a week. I don’t see how it would help, but then again, I don’t see how half their shit really helps right now.
August 22, 2009 at 9:56 am
*slight* misquote:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYlZiWK2Iy8
August 22, 2009 at 11:36 am
You know the republicans and independents (oh wait anyone who disagrees with obama is republican, i forgot) aren’t the only ones who have made the comparison of hitler and obama. Also has it ever occured to anyone that the people making these posters and using them are plants? If you actually focused in on the text on some of these posters of obama as hitler you would see that Democrat Lyndon Larouche’s name is on them and in that specific incident with Senator Frank the woman was holding up the reference image straight off of LaRouche’s website So tell me what is the democrat thought process for calling a black man hitler?
August 22, 2009 at 12:04 pm
simply kill the black jews.
August 22, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Sammy Davis Jr is already dead.
August 22, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Welcome back.
August 22, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Thank you Nyokkles.
August 22, 2009 at 12:25 pm
Problem one: The woman wasn’t calling Obama Hitler, she was call Barney Frank Hitler. Which is double crazy since, as other have pointed out, Frank is a literally a gay jew.
Problem two: Lyndon LaRouche is also batshit crazy (As in, doesn’t believe in Newtonian physics crazy) and hasn’t been associated with the Democrats in a very long time, if you ever really could call him a Democrat. Those aren’t plants or conspiracies. His followers actually believe that Obama is a fascist.
August 22, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Well the woman never called frank hitler. She accused him of supporting a nazi healthcare problem. Other than that you are right but the point i am trying to make here is that crazies are on all ends of the political spectrum. It’s just comments like pauls drive me insane because they make the assumption that the only people who dissent are the ones who are members of the opposing party. Whether or not the current Dems accept LaRouche the man still identifies himself as a democrat. Obviously larouche is bat shit insane, i mean come on, even i think the obama hitler thing is uncalled for.
August 22, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Democrats are much more willing to denounce their crazies than are the republicans.
GOP Must Repudiate Limbaugh or Be Defined by Him
August 22, 2009 at 3:02 pm
…and yes, I realize it’s the very liberal Huffington Post, but that just proves my point.
August 22, 2009 at 5:59 pm
Well i agree 100% but the republican party has already disassociated themselves from Rush. Michael Steele (who is head of the RNC for those who do not know)has said “Let’s put it into context here. Rush limbaugh is an entertainer. Rush limbaugh, his whole thing is entertainment. Yes he is incendiary. Yes, it’s ugly.” ( i cited the dailykos their BTW so the huffington post is beyond excusable) Flat out i guarantee the republican party is going to undergo serious reformation in the next 8 years. The reason i say this is because more and more republicans are starting to play the libertarian card. Biggest examples? Ron Paul of course but…Sarah Palin. You may not believe this but sarah palin has directly quoted libertarian economist thomas sowell AND in 2006 Palin’s first veto as Governor was a bill that sought to block state employee benefits and health insurance for same-sex couples. Ultimately the mainstream media is still trying to portray the whole republican party as this iron curtain of hardcore religious, racist, extremist nuts. The truth is that there are still people like that in the part but the party itself is going through a radical struggle in ideals right now. I mean flat out libertarians by definition right now are socially liberal and fiscally conservative and many so called “republicans” are starting to embrace this set of ideals. America is tired of Reaganesque social conservatives and the republicans know this.
August 22, 2009 at 7:06 pm
Didn’t Steele then quickly apologize for those statements about Limbaugh?
August 22, 2009 at 7:25 pm
I don’t know, it is possible.
August 22, 2009 at 7:26 pm
Yeah he did, but i wouldn’t be surprised if it was a tongue in cheek apology.
August 22, 2009 at 9:43 pm
No it was a very real apology. It was embarrassing to watch him and several other repub leaders try to distance themselves from Limbaugh, only to grovel at his feet w/in a week. The only one to maintain his dignity and distance was Colin Powell. The repub party as it has been will prolly never be again.
August 22, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Also, Palin is an idiot. I’m not being facetious, she is an idiot; I don’t care who she quotes. If she is the future of the party, the party is dead. You’re wrong about the repub party; it’s leaders haven’t changed their ways. They still go on tv everyday and spout nonsense. There may be a more conscientious group w/in the party; but they’re not saying anything. The ones that are, should go away.
August 22, 2009 at 10:59 pm
You seem to have a lot of hardcore hatred for the republicans nyokkles.
August 23, 2009 at 3:08 pm
To some extent, yes. They’ve gone from a voice to a scream. I have no respect for those that cannot distinguish between the rhetoric and the facts. I’ve always been more conservative, but this current political republican lack-of-dialogue is beyond my ability to work through and justify.
August 22, 2009 at 12:41 pm
Yeah, they are all plants, with years as Freepers, Militia groups, LaRouchies, Paultards, positions in local and state GOP organizations.
August 22, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Because dissent means you are an extremist right?
August 22, 2009 at 1:29 pm
It did when Bush was President, why shouldn’t it when Obama’s president?
This kind of stuff didn’t happen on this scale during the Bush presidency, most likely because CNN, liberal bastion though it is, hasn’t resorted to the extreme ad-hominem seeding tactics that Fox News has, and terrorizing something that should not be terrifying like Fox News. Beck called Obama a racist, how many others have looked meaningfully at the camera and said, “Is Obama a Hitler?” As if hitlers were an improper noun, a thing, like a duck or cow. Jesus.
August 22, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Obviously. But seriously, the Right is much more likely to try to make that argument than is the Left. It’s not both sides using the same techniques. The Bush administration made an art of doing so. You can see the obvious differences in the health care reform whatever; The Dems are simply not unified (nor do they really want to be)the way the Reubs are.
August 22, 2009 at 5:07 pm
Because that’s what I said? Play the martyr card some more. Oh, your are so oppressed, let me pinch you cute little cheeks!
Crazy dissent is extremist, and look who is coming out to protest, crazies! Crazies who interestingly often have local and state GOP leadership positions. And all of them are plants by the liberals.
Exactly what planet do you spend most of your time on?
August 22, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Erf.
You, uh-
You “rack dishaprine” in your arguments.
Can you give a summation in haiku form?
August 22, 2009 at 7:10 pm
I’ll tell you what planet i am on when you can actually take the time to research your enemy instead of just marginalizing people like the last and current administrations did/do. How about you sit down and actually take in information from somewhere other than fox news the daily kos and MSNBC.Maybe then you can attempt to argue like a free thinking human instead of some mindless drone who agrees with their “gut” feelings and re-hashes barney frank quotes.
August 23, 2009 at 10:59 pm
Riiiiight. Let me put it in a way that your mind can handle. The people coming out for astroturf protests are, for the most part, complete nutters. Like the woman in the post above, which happens to have the Frank quote I was repeating.
She is crazy. So are the guys carrying guns to protests. As are the birthers. Saying to an Israeli Jew who is telling people that their national health care system is really nice, “Heil Hitler!” is completely batshit crazy. The noisiest of the republicans are getting the attention of the media, and they happen to be crazy. This isn’t a fox, kos or msnbc viewpoint. Its just what you guys are left with in the public sphere. Don’t like it? Then make some noise about how the tea baggers, militias and birthers don’t represent you and enjoy the hate mail from your fellow travelers. Your party has been taken over by conspiracy believing madmen, racists and talibangelists.
And I wouldn’t point to Ron Paul as a leader for the repubs. He is almost as insane as Obama=Hitler woman. Don’t forget his courting the truthers and militias.
August 23, 2009 at 11:39 pm
The unfortunate truth. The repubs are disintegrating into noisy madness. They have a voice and it’s screaming hatred, bigotry, lies and insanity. If the more moderate in the party want to claim that these people don’t speak for them; then they have to say so…loudly and often. It’s the same trouble the moderate Muslims are running into. They’re letting the crazy extremists define their religion to the rest of the world. We rarely see the sanity.
And yes, Ron Paul is not a real improvement.
August 25, 2009 at 12:23 am
Behind the Obama-Hitler Slur
August 22, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Made by some German fella, upset that we keep bringing “that certain guy” up.
August 22, 2009 at 2:07 pm
I don’t understand how wanting to improve health care makes someone a Nazi…
I’m British so haven’t really been following the story, but Obama wants to make health care free right? Like in Canada and Britain? So saying Obama’s policy’s are Nazi-esque is like saying Canada and Britain are ruled by Nazis.
Although as I said I haven’t really been following the story so I could have just made a complete ass of myself.
August 22, 2009 at 2:25 pm
No, he doesn’t want to make health care free. He wants to make easily affordable to all. The US is nowhere near free health care, and few want that kind of setup.
August 22, 2009 at 3:25 pm
Ah right, ok thanks for the explanation. I still fail to see how that makes him a Nazi though.
August 22, 2009 at 2:59 pm
I thought the people that wanted free helthcare were being accused of communism not Nazi-ism. Maybe the GOP can’t tell the difference between socialism and National Socialism…
August 22, 2009 at 4:37 pm
The funny part is that Massachusetts (which Frank reps) already has the highest percentage of insured in the country, and the providers and insurers are moving toward “quality of care” contracts that incentivize performance and patient outcomes rather than revolving door care and needless tests. And that’s unlikely to really change, regardless of what gets approved in Washington.
So this woman is ignorant and/or her “argument” seems to be nothing more than an excuse to further propagate the Obama/Nazi/commie/socialist agenda, which is ludicrous regardless of who started it.
Yet another example of why the rest of the world views America as kind of a joke: it lacks perspective, and is too busy fighting with itself to care.
August 22, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Basically the Extreme Right Crazies calls Obama a Communist, Socialist, Terrorist, and not a Citizen. The Extreme Left Crazies call Obama a Nazi. Why do people listen to this crap? Both sides deserve to be ignored. Damn crazy people getting all the attention.
August 23, 2009 at 3:21 am
I live in America and I can tell you honestly, that this is exactly how arguments are.
Hope this clears up any confusion for people in other countries.
August 23, 2009 at 4:53 am
Dear me…you americans. Such a silly, barbaric people.
August 23, 2009 at 9:05 am
Listen, we don’t need Romans telling us how to ruin civilization. We’re doing fine on our own. GB2ROME with your “barbarian” comment.
August 23, 2009 at 9:34 pm
Yep.
August 23, 2009 at 10:29 am
I got all of Canada together for a discussion, and it was decided that we’re going to extend free health care to pets, just to piss off you Americans.
August 23, 2009 at 2:55 pm
There sure are a lot of assumptions being made on this site.
Just gimme a rifle and something to kill.