Imagine No God

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    Denmarkian
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    I really wish this sort of petulant, anti-christian vitriol was not completely justified as a retaliation against all the heavy-handed “Don’t lie to me and say it wasn’t God who created these here United States!”, revisionist-history touting, fundamentalist fucktards we’ve been forced to listen to for the past twenty years.

    Sarcastastic
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    You do realize that Epicurus lived in ancient Greece, and said this before Jesus was even alive, right?

    Denmarkian
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    You do realize that there was never a real person named Jesus who lived roughly 2,000 years ago and did all the stuff that’s written in the New Testament, right?

    Have you ever heard about the Council of Nicaea? The gathering that took place more than three hundred years after “Jesus” “lived” where they chose what books were going to be in The New Testament, and what books were not?

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    And you do realize that Epicurus almost definitely did not say this? The earliest version of the quote comes from Sextus Empiricus (160-210 AD).

    TGGeko
    Member

    And you do realize that even if those are true, not preventing evil isn’t malice.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    Depends. Do you and I have malice because we’re looking at pictures on the internet instead of stopping genocide in Darfur? No (I hope), because we’re limited individuals and it would take a supreme amount of effort with little chance of success for one person to stop a genocide. But for an omnipotent being, it should be a snap of the finger. It really is a dick move to let something like that go on. And regarding the inevitable, stupid “free will” argument: There is still evil and suffering from natural causes. Why would a benevolent god let something like… Read more »

    Puulaahi
    Member

    In the great words of Diamond Head/ Metallica = Am I Evil? I am man. Yes, I am

    Every creature on the planet is filled with good & evil. Either one is a choice and apart of ones character.

    Belbo
    Member

    The argument is not ‘free will’, but what is good and what is evil? What would be life without death, war, lies, money? Maybe, if there was no evil in life, neither would there be good.

    To presume that God does not do the right thing is to presume to have greater knowledge and foresight than God, the alleged omniscient.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    Presuming their is a god… I believe in reincarnation/ karma more than I do a single omniscient god.

    roboxer
    Member

    *GRAMMAR POLICE* ‘there’

    nyoki
    Member

    Is it so recent? I was an unquestioning atheist from birth (give or take a few years), and never ran into any of the evangelical trying to convince me of anything. In the last 10-15 years it seems to be everywhere. Was I just not paying attention or has it gotten worse? I thought it was because I had moved from NYC (and an academic life) to West Virginia, where there isn’t a college on every block, but rather a church of some kind. I didn’t even know there was such variety in the christian world.

    Denmarkian
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    In terms of US culture as a whole, yes it is very recent. There has almost always been a battle between the christians who think that our country is founded on christian principals and completely ignore that one part of the first amendment, and the people who are not christians and know that the first amendment is there to protect them from the aforementioned revisionist-history christians. People cite that “In God We Trust” is on our currency, yet, per the US Treasury that phrase was originally printed on silver certificates in 1957, before then it was in 1864, during the… Read more »

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    Relax.

    You’re all nerds.

    Tyger42
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    The standard response to a statement like this would be that God does not impede our free will. We’re here as a test. Our actions determine how we fare in that test, as do our reactions to the actions of others.

    This makes a degree of sense, IMO. The logic in the picture isn’t the logic I’d question Christianity with. Of course, it should be noted that I am not a Christian…

    fracked again
    Member

    Yes, you have the freedom to do what I say, even when I don’t follow my own rules, and make sure you worship me, or I consign you to incredible tortures for eternity.

    Where does evil come from is a problem for every religion with interventionist gods.

    Luke Magnifico
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    God made the universe. God made the world. God made granite.

    In making granite, he made a commonplace substance that is pretty, that looks handsome when used about the home, and that breaks down into radon.

    Radon gas is the second leading cause of lung cancer, coming after smoking.

    God’s a fucking cunt.

    Puulaahi
    Member

    ahahahahaha

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    /thread

    roboxer
    Member

    Good call…lol

    mikoyangurevich15
    Member

    Like theoretical life around distant stars,he may exist,but you`ll never prove it.

    Alec Dalek
    Member

    “If I had to sit in heaven forever, knowing that there are these people, millions of millions, probably billions of people, suffering these eternal horrible torments, and there was nothing I could ever do for them, that to me would be hell” – Richard Carrier, interview from “The God Who Wasn’t There”

    It’s concepts like this that make me think most christians are heartless.

    nyoki
    Member

    Dante put Epicurus in Hell for being wrong. Well that and being a pagan, though he gave a break to Virgil and others by putting them outside Hell proper, you know, w/ the unbaptized babies. Heartless? Just a little.

    Sarcastastic
    Member

    But Dante also put popes and even his favourite author in Hell, the book was a parody and social commentary.

    Alec Dalek
    Member

    Just like the bible.

    nyoki
    Member

    Nonetheless, he clearly meant it. The popes he put in Hell were traitors to Catholicism.

    bstaples
    Member

    Most people who use suffering as a means to debunk God are grasping for straws. The only time you believe in biblical morality is when you expect God to stand by it? Using suffering to anull God is just as weak as using good times to prove him. It’s a wack arguement. I’m sorry I ran over your cat, Fluffy, because you left your door open, i’m sorry you now have a 3rd arm because of waste from a greedy developer, and i’m sorry that building collapsed, and killed your Uncle Jimbo, because the constructors cut massive corners. Bud God… Read more »

    nyoki
    Member

    Heartless?

    sylvanish
    Member

    You need to do something about all that sand in your vagina.

    bstaples
    Member

    Pearls before swine.

    Just This Guy, You Know?
    Member

    RAARRR EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES DIFFERENTLY THAN ME IS A RETARDED MORON WHO IS NOT ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION AND MUST BELIEVE EXACTLY THE WAY I DO OR THEY’RE RETARDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!ONETHOUSANDONEHUNDREDELEVEN!!

    elzarcothepale
    Member

    IMAGINE NO TACOS!

    elzarcothepale
    Member

    imagiNe
    tacOs

    “Is Tacos crunchy but not tasty?
    Then he is a soy taco.
    Is he tasty, but not crunchy?
    Then he is a burrito.
    Is he both tasty and crunchy?
    Then why are you complaining about Tacos?
    Is he neither tasty nor crunchy?
    Then you went to Taco Bell.”

    these questions are more important to me.



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