Comments on: Palin Mania – PALIN2012

By: Qumefox

Qumefox — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:04:57 +0000

@fraked. Your criticism of me would be more founded if I actually listened to rush or watched fox. My opinions are expressly my own. I neither a) listen to talk radio.. I find it boring as fuck, or b) watch FOX. Usually discovery channel and history channel is it, and even then I pick stuff up off the DVR so I don’t have to sit through commercials.

Want to know what my primary news sources usually are? Usually liberal biased sites like CNN etc, and when I pick up on something interesting I start digging through congressional transcripts and other unaltered public records on the subjects to see what really transpired without having to deal with the media reporting bias, then forming my own conclusions to the state things are in.

By: Qumefox

Qumefox — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:53:59 +0000

@die. Ok let me get this straight. Your saying i’m wrong because what YOU think socialism means is different from that in every DICTIONARY i’ve looked in? That’s the whole reason I posted the definition, so at least it’s meaning couldn’t be argued. Guess I was wrong. Now you say that it’s wrong because it doesn’t agree with your viewpoint. AND your also not doing what I asked. Again i’m being told i’m wrong without you posting any FACTS to prove I am. I still say BHO’s actions fit the dictionary definition of socialism and can name policy examples to prove it.

By: Qumefox

Qumefox — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:46:35 +0000

fracked. If that was what’s happening it’d be fine. however some banks are wanting to repay the stimulus money so they can get the fed out of their business, and the fed is telling them hell no. Explain to me how this is anything more than a power grab. If it wasn’t, they’d happily accept that stimulus money back to a) reduce the deficit or b) spend it elsewhere.

By: Svartmetall

Svartmetall — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 10:46:16 +0000

I’m trying to work out where the ‘C’ at the end of ‘PalinMania’ went.

By: dieAntagonista

dieAntagonista — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:17:54 +0000

Qumefox

Thank you for proving that you have actually no idea what socialism is. You had to look it up? Really? Aw, couldn’t explain it with your own words. It’s a shame isn’t it.

Second, oh so I’m a liberal? It’s quite fascinating, no matter who I talk to about Obama, if they’re against him, they always come to the conclusion that I must be a liberal.

Liberalism has nothing to do with this, from now on we’ll call it… hm, common sense? Yeah we’ll call it common sense.

You also proved that you’re scared to tell me what candidate you preferred over Obama. So you’re not educated on this, nor do you have the guts to tell us what you do support.

Let’s assume you were for McCain. Not because I think you were, but I have a feeling you agree with his politics more than with Obama’s since you also support Palin.

If Obama is a socialist, then so is McCain. If your definition of socialist is broad enough to include one, it has to be broad enough to include the other. Not only that, but you yourself currently reside in a socialist nation. Youâ€™ve got public fire, public police, public postal system etc. What is socialism. Socialism is when all of the productions and industry of a country are owned by the people.

This was already reality before Obama became president.

BTW iâ€™ve had this same argument countless times. Hopefully you actually be the first to come back with an actual argument against this. To date no other ~~liberal~~ republican has.

By: thelotuseater725

thelotuseater725 — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 03:27:35 +0000

Because it is just kinda myopic to hold one person responsible. Nobody is saying that bush didn’t fuck things up, nobody is saying that obama wasn’t handed a great deck of cards. The problem is that our current economic and political problems are a culmination of the past 15 years of politics. Clinton inherited a government coping with post cold war Clinton doubled his military spending his last years in office, bush was handed one of the worst national disasters in the history of our nation. The iraq war happened and it opened up a bucket of shit that he wasn’t expecting. When democrats regained control during the last 2, 1/2 years what had they done to make any of it better? Now we can sit here all day blaming bush,obama, clinton, bush sr and even go as far back as woodrow fucking wilson. What does this acomplish?
All it does is give politicians a chance to eschew personal responsibility for the name of getting more votes and pushing whatever agenda they are conned or paid into pushing. From Barney Frank to Lindsey Graham their is blame to be laid on all people. Hell the american people themselves are just as much responsible as obama is.

By: Sticky

Sticky — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:59:54 +0000

Well…that and I’m also an opinionated asshole, so there is that too.

By: nyokki

nyokki — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:54:14 +0000

This.

By: nyokki

nyokki — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:43:22 +0000

I don’t understand why I can’t blame it on Bush. Obama didn’t get preggers but was left w/ the kiddies. What should he do? He has to deal w. what was left him. All the plans he had were blown out of the water by a huge economic crisis that the previous administration did a half-sorta-kinda-fix on. Obama didn’t get a clean slate to start w/.
Now the more time that goes by, the more Obama becomes responsible, but we’re not there yet. I think a year is reasonable considering the circumstances.
I’m not happy w/ his defense of DOMA, and the few ‘rights’ he gave to gays aren’t very useful or respectful.

By: Sticky

Sticky — Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:41:41 +0000

I wasn’t basing my accusations on the fact that I “have trouble telling smart small-towners from dumb small-towners,” I was basing my accusations on the fact (rather, opinion) that Sarah Palin is fucking retarded. I’d take lessons from her on how to go out and hunt moose, sure, but she has no business in politics, especially one who’s so far right you’d expect her to start (incorrectly) quoting Mein Kampf.