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		<title>By: EuroUSA</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-223136</link>
		<dc:creator>EuroUSA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 17:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love PCs.  I became a PC tech, all self-taught as a pure matter of survival and I became quite proficient at it too.  I live in a country and region where English is not the main language by any stretch of the imagination.  When I had PC problems, I had to literally take out a day to travel by train and underground getting there and back and then trying to explain to a tech what the problem could be.  Almost impossible for the average PC user like myself, how many times does one use tech terms in one&#039;s daily life and then have to relearn them in a foreign language each time the PC failed?  Which got to be all too often.

Via the internet and books I learned how to fix my PC.  I got so proficient that I soon got known around the village and region for my new found talent.  It soon became a second hobby and if I charged anything it was not monetary and was paid in gifts like fresh farm eggs, cheese, a bottle of wine or a free round at the local pub.  I got so good, I even built my own dream-machine PC to my own needs and specs by ordering and buying parts abroad on visits to family in the US.  

Then about 3 years ago I bought an Apple and I am yet to have one single simple problem with it.  It&#039;s a great machine for my line of work.  

But that&#039;s not to say that I stopped fixing PCs.  Are you kidding?  I have a wine cellar that you would probably kill for.  I love PCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love PCs.  I became a PC tech, all self-taught as a pure matter of survival and I became quite proficient at it too.  I live in a country and region where English is not the main language by any stretch of the imagination.  When I had PC problems, I had to literally take out a day to travel by train and underground getting there and back and then trying to explain to a tech what the problem could be.  Almost impossible for the average PC user like myself, how many times does one use tech terms in one&#8217;s daily life and then have to relearn them in a foreign language each time the PC failed?  Which got to be all too often.</p>
<p>Via the internet and books I learned how to fix my PC.  I got so proficient that I soon got known around the village and region for my new found talent.  It soon became a second hobby and if I charged anything it was not monetary and was paid in gifts like fresh farm eggs, cheese, a bottle of wine or a free round at the local pub.  I got so good, I even built my own dream-machine PC to my own needs and specs by ordering and buying parts abroad on visits to family in the US.  </p>
<p>Then about 3 years ago I bought an Apple and I am yet to have one single simple problem with it.  It&#8217;s a great machine for my line of work.  </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not to say that I stopped fixing PCs.  Are you kidding?  I have a wine cellar that you would probably kill for.  I love PCs.</p>
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		<title>By: pheonyx74</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-221932</link>
		<dc:creator>pheonyx74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Paul_Is_Drunk
You obviously don&#039;t know people who THINK they are hackers with no true talent for it.</description>
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You obviously don&#8217;t know people who THINK they are hackers with no true talent for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul_Is_Drunk</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-221900</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul_Is_Drunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221888&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;vandal&lt;/a&gt;: 
You&#039;re using the &quot;my friend broke his computer in one day&quot; story Mac lovers use.  I used to repair computers, and &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS THIS&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;.

*What&#039;s your friend&#039;s name?
*How do you know him?
*Is he the same guy that your sister&#039;s friend&#039;s uncle knew who microwaved a Chihuahua?

What you actually said:
&quot;My old roomate had an alienware, and he would always ask for my laptop to write his papers on.&quot;

O_o?  

So he spent $2,000+ on a custom computer (which he could have built himself for half) and he didn&#039;t have Microsoft Word, so he wanted to use a Microsoft product on a laptop keyboard?

I rarely say this outright, because I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but your full of shit.  Stop lying.  I&#039;m all for arguing/debating actual points, but why not just claim Jesus appeared to you in a burrito and said Macs were better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221888" rel="nofollow">vandal</a>:<br />
You&#8217;re using the &#8220;my friend broke his computer in one day&#8221; story Mac lovers use.  I used to repair computers, and <b><i>I HAVE NEVER COME ACROSS THIS</i></b>.</p>
<p>*What&#8217;s your friend&#8217;s name?<br />
*How do you know him?<br />
*Is he the same guy that your sister&#8217;s friend&#8217;s uncle knew who microwaved a Chihuahua?</p>
<p>What you actually said:<br />
&#8220;My old roomate had an alienware, and he would always ask for my laptop to write his papers on.&#8221;</p>
<p>O_o?  </p>
<p>So he spent $2,000+ on a custom computer (which he could have built himself for half) and he didn&#8217;t have Microsoft Word, so he wanted to use a Microsoft product on a laptop keyboard?</p>
<p>I rarely say this outright, because I like to give the benefit of the doubt, but your full of shit.  Stop lying.  I&#8217;m all for arguing/debating actual points, but why not just claim Jesus appeared to you in a burrito and said Macs were better?</p>
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		<title>By: AlecDalek</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-221889</link>
		<dc:creator>AlecDalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac User: Thanks you steve gobs for charging 3 times as much for the same god damn hardware.  I love the taste of your cum.  tODAY I am somebody!  I am gobs ass whore.  Yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac User: Thanks you steve gobs for charging 3 times as much for the same god damn hardware.  I love the taste of your cum.  tODAY I am somebody!  I am gobs ass whore.  Yay!</p>
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		<title>By: vandal</title>
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		<dc:creator>vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 more thing, all these people that are SO worried about .000000001% performance difference I  don&#039;t understand you.  .0000000000000001% performance means nothing i dont care if your pc plays a video game at 88 fps instead of my 87, The difference is so minute that i would rather have a real operating system that allows me to do many more things.  And not everyone is a computer genius, so why windows doesnt come out with a dummy proof computer for noobs is astounding,  my friend bought a computer 2 months ago and within 2 days its unusable, granted he only spent 600$ and he is an avid porn addict, stlll thats 600$ down the drain, all my money i spent on the mac was well worth is, i would have spent more on my mAC ITS WORTH IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 more thing, all these people that are SO worried about .000000001% performance difference I  don&#8217;t understand you.  .0000000000000001% performance means nothing i dont care if your pc plays a video game at 88 fps instead of my 87, The difference is so minute that i would rather have a real operating system that allows me to do many more things.  And not everyone is a computer genius, so why windows doesnt come out with a dummy proof computer for noobs is astounding,  my friend bought a computer 2 months ago and within 2 days its unusable, granted he only spent 600$ and he is an avid porn addict, stlll thats 600$ down the drain, all my money i spent on the mac was well worth is, i would have spent more on my mAC ITS WORTH IT.</p>
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		<title>By: AlecDalek</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlecDalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac User: oh my sweet fuck&#039;m god that dick feels so good in my ass!  Thank you steve gobs!   Take all my money!  Shove it up your ass!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac User: oh my sweet fuck&#8217;m god that dick feels so good in my ass!  Thank you steve gobs!   Take all my money!  Shove it up your ass!</p>
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		<title>By: vandal</title>
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		<dc:creator>vandal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol I built my first 3 computers as a kid(pricewatch.com) and the one my parents currently use and my sister at college.  I was scared to buymy first mac 2 years ago, but I&#039;ve never looked back.  It never fails I spent 2400 on it, but get this, after two years my computer is still worth 1900$!!! buying a mac is like buying a nice car, it holds its value.  I can trade it in spend 700$ and get a brand new mac.  I used to be a PC fanboy gogo counter strike and shit.  But now i actually use my mac to do WORK on and for actually productivity, i have still yet to find a pc that matches up.  My old roomate had an alienware, and he would always ask for my laptop to write his papers on.  I&#039;m not hating on computer savvy people who know how to work around PC issues,  but what i dont get is hating on macs just because anymore.  IF you hate on macs its because you have never used one.  As a web programmer I would never go back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol I built my first 3 computers as a kid(<a href="http://pricewatch.com" title="http://pricewatch.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">pricewatch.com</a>) and the one my parents currently use and my sister at college.  I was scared to buymy first mac 2 years ago, but I&#8217;ve never looked back.  It never fails I spent 2400 on it, but get this, after two years my computer is still worth 1900$!!! buying a mac is like buying a nice car, it holds its value.  I can trade it in spend 700$ and get a brand new mac.  I used to be a PC fanboy gogo counter strike and shit.  But now i actually use my mac to do WORK on and for actually productivity, i have still yet to find a pc that matches up.  My old roomate had an alienware, and he would always ask for my laptop to write his papers on.  I&#8217;m not hating on computer savvy people who know how to work around PC issues,  but what i dont get is hating on macs just because anymore.  IF you hate on macs its because you have never used one.  As a web programmer I would never go back.</p>
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		<title>By: AlecDalek</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlecDalek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac user using Windows:
Oh my God! I am in pain, I had to click the mouse TWICE!  Fuck&#039;n Jesus what am I going to do, I&#039;m crippled, damn my styrofoam bones.  Damn you sweet Jesus and your kinetics!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac user using Windows:<br />
Oh my God! I am in pain, I had to click the mouse TWICE!  Fuck&#8217;n Jesus what am I going to do, I&#8217;m crippled, damn my styrofoam bones.  Damn you sweet Jesus and your kinetics!</p>
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		<title>By: pheonyx74</title>
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		<dc:creator>pheonyx74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t say he wasn&#039;t a dumb**s. Just that the stability of Mac by far surpasses PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t say he wasn&#8217;t a dumb**s. Just that the stability of Mac by far surpasses PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul_Is_Drunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul_Is_Drunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221845&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pheonyx74&lt;/a&gt;: I hate to tell you this, but your friend Andy is an idiot.  (These are also the stories Mac users like to lie about and make up, but I&#039;m giving you the benefit of the doubt and not calling you a liar).  

Just because you have to give a child safety scissors doesn&#039;t mean safety scissors are better than regular scissors.  Now, charge more for those safety scissors...

@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221847&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pheonyx74&lt;/a&gt;: And to save a lot of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221845" rel="nofollow">pheonyx74</a>: I hate to tell you this, but your friend Andy is an idiot.  (These are also the stories Mac users like to lie about and make up, but I&#8217;m giving you the benefit of the doubt and not calling you a liar).  </p>
<p>Just because you have to give a child safety scissors doesn&#8217;t mean safety scissors are better than regular scissors.  Now, charge more for those safety scissors&#8230;</p>
<p>@<a href="#comment-221847" rel="nofollow">pheonyx74</a>: And to save a lot of money.</p>
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		<title>By: frogurtx</title>
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		<dc:creator>frogurtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221845&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pheonyx74&lt;/a&gt;: 
Your friend Andy is what we refer to as a &quot;dumbass&quot;--the perfect Mac customer. May he find happiness in his ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221845" rel="nofollow">pheonyx74</a>:<br />
Your friend Andy is what we refer to as a &#8220;dumbass&#8221;&#8211;the perfect Mac customer. May he find happiness in his ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: pheonyx74</title>
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		<dc:creator>pheonyx74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only reason to not get a Mac would be for Linux users, customizers, gamers, and businesses.</description>
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		<title>By: pheonyx74</title>
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		<dc:creator>pheonyx74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend Andy can crash a brandnew PC with Vista or XP (and has) within 24 hours of aquiring it. He now has a Mac and has had it for 4 years and it HAS NEVER CRASHED. A brand new pc has to have all kinds of thigs loaded onto it in order to start working with it. A new Mac; open the box plug in everything and plug in the internet and you are ready to go. 4+ hours vs 3 min. Hmmmm no brainer there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend Andy can crash a brandnew PC with Vista or XP (and has) within 24 hours of aquiring it. He now has a Mac and has had it for 4 years and it HAS NEVER CRASHED. A brand new pc has to have all kinds of thigs loaded onto it in order to start working with it. A new Mac; open the box plug in everything and plug in the internet and you are ready to go. 4+ hours vs 3 min. Hmmmm no brainer there.</p>
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		<title>By: gimmeethebeat</title>
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		<dc:creator>gimmeethebeat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221793&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dekay46&lt;/a&gt;: 
I second this.
@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221812&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sticky&lt;/a&gt;: 
Eh, I just have more important things to worry about than an OS, like a new car and rent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221793" rel="nofollow">dekay46</a>:<br />
I second this.<br />
@<a href="#comment-221812" rel="nofollow">Sticky</a>:<br />
Eh, I just have more important things to worry about than an OS, like a new car and rent.</p>
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		<title>By: Sticky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sticky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221723&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;gimmeethebeat&lt;/a&gt;: 
I work at my college and they give me a decent (but by no means &lt;i&gt;great&lt;/i&gt;) paycheck. If I worked more I&#039;d probably have an okay cushion of spending cash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221723" rel="nofollow">gimmeethebeat</a>:<br />
I work at my college and they give me a decent (but by no means <i>great</i>) paycheck. If I worked more I&#8217;d probably have an okay cushion of spending cash.</p>
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		<title>By: dekay46</title>
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		<dc:creator>dekay46</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like boobs.</description>
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		<title>By: Howie Feltersnatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howie Feltersnatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, there&#039;s no reason at all to have a Mac. Other than the fact that my Mac boots in under 20 seconds. And when I log in, 8 seconds top and my web browser and email are already up and running. 

Even the fastest, most tricked out PC I&#039;ve ever used can&#039;t come close to that. (Well, maybe if it&#039;s running Linux.) Windows is still farting around, thinking about drawing the start menu and loading a bunch of Micro$haft shiat and third-party software that adds features that should have been included in the first place, and meanwhile on my Mac I&#039;ve already finished what I needed to do. And that doesn&#039;t even count the times that Windows will just throw up a dialog box titled something like &quot;XTRDBRGLR.DLL&quot; but is otherwise completely blank with a blank button to click on that makes the box slowly vanish.

Windows is a great operating system if you want to spend all your time fucking around trying to optimize the OS and get it to do what you want. Mac OS is great if you just want to, you know, USE your computer and don&#039;t give a shit about the OS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s no reason at all to have a Mac. Other than the fact that my Mac boots in under 20 seconds. And when I log in, 8 seconds top and my web browser and email are already up and running. </p>
<p>Even the fastest, most tricked out PC I&#8217;ve ever used can&#8217;t come close to that. (Well, maybe if it&#8217;s running Linux.) Windows is still farting around, thinking about drawing the start menu and loading a bunch of Micro$haft shiat and third-party software that adds features that should have been included in the first place, and meanwhile on my Mac I&#8217;ve already finished what I needed to do. And that doesn&#8217;t even count the times that Windows will just throw up a dialog box titled something like &#8220;XTRDBRGLR.DLL&#8221; but is otherwise completely blank with a blank button to click on that makes the box slowly vanish.</p>
<p>Windows is a great operating system if you want to spend all your time fucking around trying to optimize the OS and get it to do what you want. Mac OS is great if you just want to, you know, USE your computer and don&#8217;t give a shit about the OS.</p>
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		<title>By: Deluxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deluxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and sorry for the bad english.</description>
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		<title>By: Deluxe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deluxe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 11:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with reboot on some points:
VMWare Fusion is a excellent product that let you run most Windows applications.

The most important point that make me buy a Mac: a full Unix Operating system, plus an excellent UI (minus this f*cking maximize button that do not maximize), plus Microsoft Office.
The best from both worlds (Unix/Windows).

Good combination of hardware by the time I searched for a laptop (the magnetic cord is a good plus too, the screen is excellent).

One point on the dark side: My slot-in optical drive broke (doesn&#039;t eject discs anymore) after one year and half. Not the quality I hoped for.


I had got many computers with Windows, and now many with Linux/Unix and one Mac.
Despite the fact that games are -almost- exclusive to Windows, I&#039;ve got tired of it. No centralized update for the whole system, time consuming to maintain it, anti-virus/anti-spyware mandatory and power-hungry...
I&#039;ve got the choice between Linux and Mac.
I take a Mac mostly for my girlfriend: Good UI, hassle free, Microsoft Office available, a few games only but she doesn&#039;t care, but no system-wide update.
For me, Linux do the trick with Unix-like system, system-wide update, hassle-free, quite good UI, but a few games only and no Office available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with reboot on some points:<br />
VMWare Fusion is a excellent product that let you run most Windows applications.</p>
<p>The most important point that make me buy a Mac: a full Unix Operating system, plus an excellent UI (minus this f*cking maximize button that do not maximize), plus Microsoft Office.<br />
The best from both worlds (Unix/Windows).</p>
<p>Good combination of hardware by the time I searched for a laptop (the magnetic cord is a good plus too, the screen is excellent).</p>
<p>One point on the dark side: My slot-in optical drive broke (doesn&#8217;t eject discs anymore) after one year and half. Not the quality I hoped for.</p>
<p>I had got many computers with Windows, and now many with Linux/Unix and one Mac.<br />
Despite the fact that games are -almost- exclusive to Windows, I&#8217;ve got tired of it. No centralized update for the whole system, time consuming to maintain it, anti-virus/anti-spyware mandatory and power-hungry&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve got the choice between Linux and Mac.<br />
I take a Mac mostly for my girlfriend: Good UI, hassle free, Microsoft Office available, a few games only but she doesn&#8217;t care, but no system-wide update.<br />
For me, Linux do the trick with Unix-like system, system-wide update, hassle-free, quite good UI, but a few games only and no Office available.</p>
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		<title>By: IAMBATMAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>IAMBATMAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221746&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul_Is_Drunk&lt;/a&gt;: I fully agree with you. Not to mention what happens if a part that came with your mac breaks? (speaking in terms of desktops. Laptops are almost always return to manufacturer) Like for example you blow a capacitor on the motherboard by running it during a storm, because the company is so proprietary you have to either mail it yourself back to the manufacturer OR take it to one of their stores that may or may not be anywhere near you just to have them ship it back to the manufacturer of course there is always that 30% chance that they&#039;ll actually have the motherboard you need and will sell it to you but we&#039;re speaking about a giant company similar to HP. And what the FUCK is with your keyboards? Why do you have 2 delete keys? What was so bad about having backspace and delete? The windows key I can understand being that Apple really hates Microsoft but what did alt ever do? So lets see you&#039;ve replaced alt with &quot;option&quot; and windows with &quot;command&quot; and don&#039;t get me started with the horrible mouse. @&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221760&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;nimbulan&lt;/a&gt;: puts it very well, But I would like to add that, can you have a worse mouse design? Every time I&#039;ve used that thing I found myself accidentally clicking something because you have to push down on the mouse to LEFT click. I mean there is nothing there its just really thin plastic so the mouse is so damn light that if you use a thicker slightly heavier mouse you will find yourself accidentally clicking because of the unexpected ease of doing so. PCs can run any OS but not without issues (nobodys perfect) hell I know for a fact you can run some of the later versions of OSX on a PC due to the switch to the i386 file structure. other than that you get either a virtual PC to emulate it for you or Linux. It&#039;s not that hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221746" rel="nofollow">Paul_Is_Drunk</a>: I fully agree with you. Not to mention what happens if a part that came with your mac breaks? (speaking in terms of desktops. Laptops are almost always return to manufacturer) Like for example you blow a capacitor on the motherboard by running it during a storm, because the company is so proprietary you have to either mail it yourself back to the manufacturer OR take it to one of their stores that may or may not be anywhere near you just to have them ship it back to the manufacturer of course there is always that 30% chance that they&#8217;ll actually have the motherboard you need and will sell it to you but we&#8217;re speaking about a giant company similar to HP. And what the FUCK is with your keyboards? Why do you have 2 delete keys? What was so bad about having backspace and delete? The windows key I can understand being that Apple really hates Microsoft but what did alt ever do? So lets see you&#8217;ve replaced alt with &#8220;option&#8221; and windows with &#8220;command&#8221; and don&#8217;t get me started with the horrible mouse. @<a href="#comment-221760" rel="nofollow">nimbulan</a>: puts it very well, But I would like to add that, can you have a worse mouse design? Every time I&#8217;ve used that thing I found myself accidentally clicking something because you have to push down on the mouse to LEFT click. I mean there is nothing there its just really thin plastic so the mouse is so damn light that if you use a thicker slightly heavier mouse you will find yourself accidentally clicking because of the unexpected ease of doing so. PCs can run any OS but not without issues (nobodys perfect) hell I know for a fact you can run some of the later versions of OSX on a PC due to the switch to the i386 file structure. other than that you get either a virtual PC to emulate it for you or Linux. It&#8217;s not that hard.</p>
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		<title>By: LeeHarveyOswald</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeeHarveyOswald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mac Users. you lose cause you just bought a Mac. i&#039;ll just use my Multi functioning PC to do whatever i want on the internet. bye. i&#039;m sorry for your loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mac Users. you lose cause you just bought a Mac. i&#8217;ll just use my Multi functioning PC to do whatever i want on the internet. bye. i&#8217;m sorry for your loss.</p>
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		<title>By: pantsoffdanceoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>pantsoffdanceoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nerd alert!!!!!</description>
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		<title>By: nimbulan</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-221760</link>
		<dc:creator>nimbulan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221748&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reboot&lt;/a&gt;: 
About the dock labels and Expose thing... In Windows you get text labels AND a program icon always visible for each entry in the taskbar so you instantly know what it is.  You don&#039;t have to search through the dock or expose trying to find a window because the titles are all right there.

Show items as a list still doesn&#039;t give a separate navigation pane or provide any way to separate files and folders.  It makes it unnecessarily time consuming to navigate to a different spot on your hard drive because you either have the option to a) clutter up your folder hierarchy with files and no navigation pane, or b) use the pane view (can&#039;t remember what it&#039;s called) and only see a couple levels back and not be able to see anything besides the direct parents of the current folder.

The only reason I mentioned the mouse is because all Macs come with the same horrible &quot;mighty&quot; mouse while all PCs come with a 3 button scroll mouse.  I am well aware you can use any mouse you want, though most people won&#039;t buy another mouse.  I also should mention that the design of that mouse (and all Mac mice since the iMac came out) make it such an unnecessarily difficult undertaking just to click and drag something across the screen since they&#039;re so awkward to pick up while holding the button down.

Why would you think I&#039;m talking about DirectX when I mention Windows 2000?  Obviously a gamer is going to have a newer computer.  I mention Win2k directly after talking about web browsers and PDF readers and you think I&#039;m talking about games?  My point is that a 9 year old Windows system with no upgrades will still run fully up to date everyday use software while a 4 year old Mac can&#039;t even do that without shelling out money for an OS upgrade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221748" rel="nofollow">reboot</a>:<br />
About the dock labels and Expose thing&#8230; In Windows you get text labels AND a program icon always visible for each entry in the taskbar so you instantly know what it is.  You don&#8217;t have to search through the dock or expose trying to find a window because the titles are all right there.</p>
<p>Show items as a list still doesn&#8217;t give a separate navigation pane or provide any way to separate files and folders.  It makes it unnecessarily time consuming to navigate to a different spot on your hard drive because you either have the option to a) clutter up your folder hierarchy with files and no navigation pane, or b) use the pane view (can&#8217;t remember what it&#8217;s called) and only see a couple levels back and not be able to see anything besides the direct parents of the current folder.</p>
<p>The only reason I mentioned the mouse is because all Macs come with the same horrible &#8220;mighty&#8221; mouse while all PCs come with a 3 button scroll mouse.  I am well aware you can use any mouse you want, though most people won&#8217;t buy another mouse.  I also should mention that the design of that mouse (and all Mac mice since the iMac came out) make it such an unnecessarily difficult undertaking just to click and drag something across the screen since they&#8217;re so awkward to pick up while holding the button down.</p>
<p>Why would you think I&#8217;m talking about DirectX when I mention Windows 2000?  Obviously a gamer is going to have a newer computer.  I mention Win2k directly after talking about web browsers and PDF readers and you think I&#8217;m talking about games?  My point is that a 9 year old Windows system with no upgrades will still run fully up to date everyday use software while a 4 year old Mac can&#8217;t even do that without shelling out money for an OS upgrade.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul_Is_Drunk</title>
		<link>http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/04/27/the-apple-tax-its-hidden/comment-page-1/#comment-221751</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul_Is_Drunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221749&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reboot&lt;/a&gt;: Quick points...

Windows switcher isn&#039;t a program.  It&#039;s an integrated feature.

I&#039;ve mentioned Portland recently in Portland related threads.  For example, Chuck Palahniuk (he&#039;s a figure here) and Kells (a bar IN PORTLAND).  

And, no, you can&#039;t run Civ4 (with BtS... screw it, let&#039;s say without) on full settings while simultaneously running a DVD (Venture Bros. or what have you)on a $999 MacBook.  

You&#039;re right in that it wouldn&#039;t prove anything on speed (I did say I immediately lamented mentioning those things), but what are the specs on your 2 year old MacBook?  If you change the argument, then you change my stance.

Even then I find it improbable (not impossible as with the $999 MacBook) that it can handle both Civ4, running a DVD video, and surfing the net at the same time without locking up.

That&#039;s just addressing your quick points...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221749" rel="nofollow">reboot</a>: Quick points&#8230;</p>
<p>Windows switcher isn&#8217;t a program.  It&#8217;s an integrated feature.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve mentioned Portland recently in Portland related threads.  For example, Chuck Palahniuk (he&#8217;s a figure here) and Kells (a bar IN PORTLAND).  </p>
<p>And, no, you can&#8217;t run Civ4 (with BtS&#8230; screw it, let&#8217;s say without) on full settings while simultaneously running a DVD (Venture Bros. or what have you)on a $999 MacBook.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right in that it wouldn&#8217;t prove anything on speed (I did say I immediately lamented mentioning those things), but what are the specs on your 2 year old MacBook?  If you change the argument, then you change my stance.</p>
<p>Even then I find it improbable (not impossible as with the $999 MacBook) that it can handle both Civ4, running a DVD video, and surfing the net at the same time without locking up.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just addressing your quick points&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reboot</title>
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		<dc:creator>reboot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 07:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-221746&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul_Is_Drunk&lt;/a&gt;: And since its late just a few points.
&quot;Did you even try, or where you hopping that I didn’t know what those two programs were so that I would bow before your mighty Mac knowledge?&quot;
Honestly, I&#039;ve tried few such programs and didn&#039;t think they worked very well. I&#039;ll give those a shot if their actually free. Thanks for the tip

&quot;Yes, reboot, I’m aware you’re a grad student in… what? Chemistry? Every time we get into a debate you bring it up. Congratulations.&quot;
Sorry. You spend 14 hours a day doing something, it tends to come up in other conversations. You mention that you live in Portland a lot.

&quot;And, no, you could not do all that on a $999 MacBook without major slowdown. The hardware simply isn’t there, and Macs don’t have the userbase to create noCD software, while running with vmware, all while playing a movie from it’s ONE drive. Throw that in with surfing multiple threads and you got the Mac freeze screen. Always fun repairing those.&quot;
This is not hypothetical. I have Civ 4 installed under vmware (since BtS hasn&#039;t been released for mac) on a 2 year old Macbook. Nokey software runs just like it does on a PC. I suppose I could post a screen capture with Venture Brothers and Civ 4, but that&#039;s wouldn&#039;t prove anything about speed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#comment-221746" rel="nofollow">Paul_Is_Drunk</a>: And since its late just a few points.<br />
&#8220;Did you even try, or where you hopping that I didn’t know what those two programs were so that I would bow before your mighty Mac knowledge?&#8221;<br />
Honestly, I&#8217;ve tried few such programs and didn&#8217;t think they worked very well. I&#8217;ll give those a shot if their actually free. Thanks for the tip</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, reboot, I’m aware you’re a grad student in… what? Chemistry? Every time we get into a debate you bring it up. Congratulations.&#8221;<br />
Sorry. You spend 14 hours a day doing something, it tends to come up in other conversations. You mention that you live in Portland a lot.</p>
<p>&#8220;And, no, you could not do all that on a $999 MacBook without major slowdown. The hardware simply isn’t there, and Macs don’t have the userbase to create noCD software, while running with vmware, all while playing a movie from it’s ONE drive. Throw that in with surfing multiple threads and you got the Mac freeze screen. Always fun repairing those.&#8221;<br />
This is not hypothetical. I have Civ 4 installed under vmware (since BtS hasn&#8217;t been released for mac) on a 2 year old Macbook. Nokey software runs just like it does on a PC. I suppose I could post a screen capture with Venture Brothers and Civ 4, but that&#8217;s wouldn&#8217;t prove anything about speed.</p>
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