Comments on: Bawl Story http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/ My Confined Space is an image blog with user submitted pictures of anything and everything, funny, serious or dark. Mon, 13 Feb 2012 18:53:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Phyreblade http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-197292 Phyreblade Sun, 01 Mar 2009 06:42:57 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-197292 @<a href="#comment-194934" rel="nofollow">Annarchy</a>: Your psychiatrist was very wise... @Annarchy: Your psychiatrist was very wise…

]]> By: Annarchy http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-195557 Annarchy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:38:47 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-195557 @<a href="#comment-195384" rel="nofollow">nyokki</a>: Exactly. @nyokki:
Exactly.

]]> By: nyokki http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-195384 nyokki Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:15:28 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-195384 @<a href="#comment-195277" rel="nofollow">Annarchy</a>: As is continuously proven on the internet. @Annarchy: As is continuously proven on the internet.

]]> By: Annarchy http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-195277 Annarchy Tue, 24 Feb 2009 15:31:10 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-195277 @<a href="#comment-195112" rel="nofollow">nyokki</a>: I've always thought it's a societal factor. In countries like the US and Russia, where there is so much space, you're relatively anonymous unless you live your whole life in the same town/village. Being anonymous does weird things to humans. @nyokki:
I’ve always thought it’s a societal factor. In countries like the US and Russia, where there is so much space, you’re relatively anonymous unless you live your whole life in the same town/village. Being anonymous does weird things to humans.

]]> By: nyokki http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-195112 nyokki Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:05:31 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-195112 @<a href="#comment-194853" rel="nofollow">Annarchy</a>: @<a href="#comment-194900" rel="nofollow">Phyreblade</a>: Agreed. There seems to be an unusually large number of them (especially serial killers) here in America and Russia. I'm not clear why that should be. I wonder where China falls in this. I'm just curious if large populations w/in a large area is a factor; in places where it's relatively easy to be anonymous, and have access to millions of victims. @Annarchy: @Phyreblade: Agreed. There seems to be an unusually large number of them (especially serial killers) here in America and Russia. I’m not clear why that should be. I wonder where China falls in this. I’m just curious if large populations w/in a large area is a factor; in places where it’s relatively easy to be anonymous, and have access to millions of victims.

]]> By: Annarchy http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-194934 Annarchy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:32:17 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-194934 @<a href="#comment-194900" rel="nofollow">Phyreblade</a>: As my psychiatrist told me a long time ago: There is no such thing as normal. There is harmful and not harmful. @Phyreblade:
As my psychiatrist told me a long time ago: There is no such thing as normal. There is harmful and not harmful.

]]> By: Phyreblade http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-194900 Phyreblade Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:33:35 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-194900 @<a href="#comment-194853" rel="nofollow">Annarchy</a>: Indeed. I think our society breeds them. I think true Psychology is more of an art than a science. As i see it, everyone, even the seriously disturbed, makes sense in their own world. The Psychologist has to figure out the rules of each individuals world, and figure out if the rules can be rewritten to make them more compatible with that of the society at large. It's a tricky thing. Science can give us pointers, but very few specific directions for each individual. I'm not really surprised it's been so hard to nail something like this down... @Annarchy: Indeed. I think our society breeds them. I think true Psychology is more of an art than a science. As i see it, everyone, even the seriously disturbed, makes sense in their own world.

The Psychologist has to figure out the rules of each individuals world, and figure out if the rules can be rewritten to make them more compatible with that of the society at large. It’s a tricky thing.

Science can give us pointers, but very few specific directions for each individual. I’m not really surprised it’s been so hard to nail something like this down…

]]> By: Annarchy http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-194853 Annarchy Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:24:49 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-194853 @<a href="#comment-193934" rel="nofollow">Phyreblade</a>: @<a href="#comment-193769" rel="nofollow">nyokki</a>: Sociopaths, psychopaths, whatever they are labeled currently, I think there are way more of them out there than anyone could guess. Simply because they haven't done anything to land them in front of someone with a degree yet. I agree that they can be violent, just like any other person. The biggest problem with psychiatry in my opinion is that it's preached, treated as dogma, but it's still evolving. Sheesh, look at autism and how the definition, treatment and possible triggers have changed over the last 20 years. I sum up psychiatry in this one sentence: people do things, we don't know why. @Phyreblade:
@nyokki:
Sociopaths, psychopaths, whatever they are labeled currently, I think there are way more of them out there than anyone could guess. Simply because they haven’t done anything to land them in front of someone with a degree yet. I agree that they can be violent, just like any other person. The biggest problem with psychiatry in my opinion is that it’s preached, treated as dogma, but it’s still evolving. Sheesh, look at autism and how the definition, treatment and possible triggers have changed over the last 20 years. I sum up psychiatry in this one sentence: people do things, we don’t know why.

]]> By: Phyreblade http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-193934 Phyreblade Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:43:58 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-193934 @<a href="#comment-193769" rel="nofollow">nyokki</a>: It's interesting how the definitions kept changing over the years. The only one that made any sense to me was the one I cited, so that's pretty much what i stuck with, because it explains both the internal mechanics as well as the difference in the externally presented symptoms for both disorders... But I'd still be interested to see your notes if you find them. Though if you're gonna post it in archaic code, I much prefer LISP... :) @nyokki: It’s interesting how the definitions kept changing over the years. The only one that made any sense to me was the one I cited, so that’s pretty much what i stuck with, because it explains both the internal mechanics as well as the difference in the externally presented symptoms for both disorders… But I’d still be interested to see your notes if you find them. Though if you’re gonna post it in archaic code, I much prefer LISP… :)

]]> By: nyokki http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2009/02/18/bawl-story/comment-page-1/#comment-193769 nyokki Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:20:51 +0000 http://www.myconfinedspace.com/?p=67425#comment-193769 @<a href="#comment-193766" rel="nofollow">Phyreblade</a>: I did a quick wiki and sociopath and psychopath are more or less interchangeable. When I was taking psych courses in college (20-25 years ago), a distinction was made. The distinction was between types that lead to the same outcome. The sociopath would kill because they felt they had to due to external pressures(Scott Peterson), while the psychopath would kill for internal reasons. Subtle perhaps, but still a distinction. They prolly share triggers for the violent behavior. I'll have to see if I still have notes on it. What a difference a couple of decades make. Perhaps I'll write it in fortran. @Phyreblade: I did a quick wiki and sociopath and psychopath are more or less interchangeable. When I was taking psych courses in college (20-25 years ago), a distinction was made. The distinction was between types that lead to the same outcome. The sociopath would kill because they felt they had to due to external pressures(Scott Peterson), while the psychopath would kill for internal reasons. Subtle perhaps, but still a distinction. They prolly share triggers for the violent behavior. I’ll have to see if I still have notes on it. What a difference a couple of decades make. Perhaps I’ll write it in fortran.

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