Tanks on the move

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    1. Israeli Merkava Mark IV

      and good trigger discipline


    2. It’s a terrorist killing machine. Please make more!


    3. AlecDalek – clever name btw:

      Have you ever read any of the Hamas Charter?


    4. American Perv – ______ name btw:

      Have you ever read any of the letters that Thomas Jefferson sent to Thomas Paine?


    5. A few yes. Racist bs. What’s that got to do with the above issue?


    6. To advocate a popular opinion means you are acting without a factual basis.


    7. dieAntagonista: can you refer to what you are talking about more specifically?


    8. Has anyone read any of the Republican Party platform? Now that’s scary :/


    9. @AlecDalek:
      a terrorist killing machine made and crewed by thing worse than terrorists


    10. The republicans just want to make money off the status quo at the expense of the rest of us. They arent however like the Islamofacists who talk daily about exterminating the rest of us. Don’t believe me? Go check out their media.


    11. Even other Arabs hate the Palestinians. It’s not like they ever help them in any way other than shooting guns at the sky and ululate. Put up or SHUT UP!


    12. @KommissarKvC:

      What are you talking about. Everyone knows them dirty Muslim terrerists are the only problem and have to be killed at first sight. No questions asked.
      The good ones are always those who kill in groups. Amirite.


    13. @American Perv: Have you ever read “The Name of the Wind”?

      It’s entirely unrelated.

      But it’s still quite a good book.


    14. @AlecDalek:

      If I got money every time you said something so outrageously stupid that the Queen farts out of excitement, I’d be one rich motherfucker.



    15. @dieAntagonista: And if George Bush got a brain cell every time you missed the point in either a post or a comment, he’d be Albert Fucking Einstein!


    16. @AlecDalek: You make Aryan Nazi soldiers look like Mother Theresa.


    17. @dieAntagonista: I win, you Godwined the thread first! That’s the rules of teh internats. And how exactly does it make me a Nazi if I like the Jews? See, you missed the point again. Ha ha!

      Seriously though, I’m just letting loose and having some fun playing Internet Tough Guy, since Magnus is in a bit of a slump.


    18. @AlecDalek: I god- what?

      Reminds me of banging yer ma.

      And I was being sarcastic. I guess that makes you the one who missed the point.

      Also, mAgnUS is better than you.


    19. @dieAntagonista:
      Godwin’s Law is that the longer/more heated a debate gets in a thread (such as this one)the chances of someone bringing up Nazis and/or Hitler increases exponentially. Typically the first person to bring it up loses.


    20. @dieAntagonista: Listen, if you can’t handle it, go sit at the kids table. The adults are trying to be disfuntional. Your Troll-Kwan-Doe is lacking.


    21. I don’t play by the rules. You lemmings.


      Pointing out that you’re trying to play the Internet tough guy makes you lose all credibility. So there.

      And then you accuse me of being a troll. Don’t make me laugh.

      Go on then mister adult, being ‘disfuntional’.


    22. @dieAntagonista: Thank you for your kind words and well wishes.


    23. I’m pretty sure the leaders of the islamofascists are actually CIA and SIS agents, along with all those groups that descended from the Muslim Brotherhood, who descended from the ancient followers of the 13th Iman (you know, the Assassins). The Wahhabi Muslims even dress like them still (except the red sash is on their heads now)

      and I think there is clear historical evidence out there for anyone willing to dig it up, that the Nazi’s were the ones who funded the Muslim Brotherhood back in the day, before they got assimilated by the OSS.

      I’ve also heard that the leaders of the Illuminati that are ushering in the New World Order, are satanic jews directly descended from Jesus, David and Solomon, and they are seeking to create the apocalypse so we can all go back to heaven and leave the earth to the demons.

      I’ve also heard that there’s an angry unicorn on the dark side of the moon.

      I think I’m gonna drop some acid today.


    24. @sylvanish:

      What you say? Acid?

      10pm at my place?


    25. tree-hugging vegan wannabe hippie scum. Pseudo intellectual ideologues that want to have tea with self confessed murderers in the hopes that we can talk it out. Have fun accomplishing not a damn thing but sealing your fate. I’ll be in my bunker just in case you want to borrow some meat (or bullets).


    26. @thequietguy:

      Nobody ever sent you flowers?

      If we were friends I’d buy gorgeous white orchids and Swiss chocolate for you and send them secretly without ever telling you that they were from me.
      And then a few days later I’d listen to you make amusing speculations about who they could be from and why.


    27. I would send you beer and a prostitute, because I am good at giving gifts.


    28. @LukeV1-5: no luke… your prostitutes are worn out.. remember what happen when you send me one of em? total disaster .


    29. btw godwin is a dick… he can suck as much nazi dick he’d want


    30. @dieAntagonista:
      i dont know what the hell youre on dieAntagonista, but its clearly the jews you have to kill

      Ive met jews, and they are arrogant b@stards, whereas the muslims and islamics ive met are peaceful and friendly


    31. @KommissarKvC:

      Herr Kommissar, I was being sarcastic.


    32. @KommissarKvC:
      I was waiting for someone on here to show their true colors. Go back to 4chan with this racist bullshit.

      Muslim men are polite and they abuse their women. Also how many Jews have you met? Seriously man, its like saying all blacks are thuggish spouse-abusing, drug addicted neanderthals who munch on fried chicken and watermellon all day. You might as well say that the Jews control the economy, are the cause of all wars, and are the reason you have hemorrhoids. It makes about as much sense.

      Everywhere the Jews go they bring culture, science, art, medicine, and music with them, which is more than can be said for a lot of other ethnic groups. I bet you like your pentium chip, instant messenger, cell phone, internet fire wall, mechanical alternative to scuba, medical advances, generic medicine, anti-desertification technology, upcoming flying car, medical uses for copper (not original to them, but they’ve made contributions, and a whole host of other things you can find on www.israel2c.net and cross check with google if you dont believe their legitimacy. The US has silicon valley. The world has Israel. Killing Jews=brain drain.

      Jews aren’t superior to anyone and I’m not saying they are. I’m saying they’ve earned their keep. Think about it.


    33. @American Perv:

      You also showed your ‘true colours’.

      How many Muslim men have you met?
      It’s save to say that before 9/11 you weren’t even sure about what a Muslim looks like or does.

      And if you make general assumptions about any group whether bad or good, you are a pathetic idiot who does what TV is telling him to.

      So if Herr Kommissar says that all Jews are so and so, he is the bad guy, but if you say that all Muslim men abuse their women, you are the hero? Fuck you.

      And if you assume that all Jews are perfectly good and nice, and they only ‘bring culture science, art..’ then that’s also an offensive assumption just like Herr Kommissar made.

      And to give you something to think about, I am Jewish and I feel offended by the things that come out of your mouth.

      Arabs and Jews are brothers, they’re both semites. And the numerical system you’re using was invented by Arab Muslims also, they are responsible for some of the most important discoveries in mathematics and most beautiful architecture. But what would you know about beauty?

      Brainwashed monkey.


    34. @AlecDalek: I was explaining my sarcasm just in the post before. HOW MUCH MORE SARCASM DO YOU WANT.


    35. @AlecDalek: Oh you meant Herr Kommissar was being sarcastic. You’re a little late there mate. He wasn’t being sarcastic. He is one hardcore motherfucker.


    36. @AlecDalek:
      I’ll try, thanks.

      You make some good points. I stand partially corrected. Its true – saying all muslim men abuse their women is racist and you’re right and I’m sorry.

      About the positive assumptions I made about Jews wherever they go, it isn’t based on nothing. If your education is as good as it otherwise appears to be you’ll know about all of the Jewish scholars and scientists, artists, doctors, and musicians who have contributed to bettering the world over the centuries.

      I don’t assume that all Jews are good and nice. I’ve known as many Jewish assholes as I have gentile. Kommissar is saying Jews should die and I’m saying they’ve more than earned their keep.

      Lets look at Israel again: how often do you hear of a country getting off of the list of developing nations?

      Also, Israel has the highest population of scientists per 1000 people in the world.

      Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in
      the world.

      In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of
      startup companies in the world.

      In absolute terms, Israel has the
      largest number of startup companies than any other country in the
      world, except the US (3,500 companies mostly in hi-tech).

      Israel is ranked #2 in the world for venture capital funds right behind the US. outside the United States and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ listed companies.

      Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East. The per capita income in 2000 was over $17,500, exceeding that of the UK.

      Israel’s $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined. On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups.

      Twenty-four percent of Israel’s workforce holds university degrees –
      ranking third in the industrialized world, after the United States and Holland – and 12 percent hold advanced degrees.

      When Golda Meir was elected Prime Minister of Israel in 1969, she
      became the world’s second elected female leader in modern times.

      When the U. S. Embassy in Nairobi, Kenya was bombed in 1998, Israeli
      rescue teams were on the scene within a day – and saved three victims from the rubble.

      Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship – and the highest rate among women and among people over 55 – in the world.

      Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth.

      Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious
      freedom, and economic opportunity, and find it.

      Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process,
      an international standard that certifies diamonds as “conflict free.”

      According to industry officials, Israel designed the airline industry’s
      most impenetrable flight security. U. S. officials now look to Israel
      for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

      Israel has the world’s second highest per capita of new books.

      Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century
      with a net gain in its number of trees, made more remarkable because
      this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.

      Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

      Medicine… Israeli scientists developed the first fully
      computerized,no-radiation, diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

      An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper
      administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical
      treatment. Every year in U. S. hospitals 7,000 patients die from
      treatment mistakes.

      Israel’s Givun imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so
      small it fits inside a pill. Used to view the small intestine from the
      inside, the camera helps doctors diagnose cancer and digestive disorders.

      Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the
      heart pump blood, an innovation with the potential to save lives among
      those with heart failure. The new device is synchronized with the
      heart’s mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors.

      Technology… With more than 3,000 high-tech companies and start-ups,
      Israel has the highest concentration of hi-tech companies in the world
      (apart from the Silicon Valley).

      In response to serious water shortages, Israeli engineers and
      agriculturalists developed a revolutionary drip irrigation system to
      minimize the amount of water used to grow crops.

      Israel has the highest percentage in the world of home computers per

      Israel leads the world in the number of cientists and technicians in the workforce, with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U. S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its work force employed in technical professions. Israel places first in this category as well.

      The cell phone was developed in Israel by Motorola, which has its
      largest development center in Israel.

      Voice mail technology was developed in Israel.

      Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the US
      in Israel.

      A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the ClearLight
      device,produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band
      blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct – all without
      damaging surroundings skin or tissue.

      An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale
      solar-powered and fully functional electricity generating plant, in
      southern California’s Mojave desert.”

      All the above while engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction, and an economy continuously under strain by
      having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other country on earth. This from a country just 55 years young having started off life on a very frontiers-like basis, whose population had mostly just emerged from the devastating World War II years.

      Need I go on?

      I’m not the chauvinist you may think. There are lots of slacker Jews, lots of criminals, just like in any other ethnic group but you can focus on the negatives of any group if you want. Don’t be such a self-hating Lefty. Have some pride. We’re not the best. Nobody is the best. But we’re damn good.


    37. Another thing: here in America, you may have noticed that with certain ethnic populations within a city, different things happen. when some move in, the crime rate goes up, performance in school goes down, and the average income goes down too. According to a census I read from the beginning of this decade, When Jews move into a neighborhood, the crime goes down, the average income goes up, and so does the quality of schools. This isn’t racism talking. It is fact.

      It may surprise you but I don’t actually believe that some people are superior or inferior to one another based on ethnicity or whatever else. Everyone *can* be the best they can be. However not everyone does it. Demographically, internationally, culturally. There are exceptions to everything of course but you’d have to be blind not to notice what I’m talking about.

      Tell me by the way, if Muslim culture isnt, for instance, sexist, whats with the headscarf? Its the same premise as when Orthodox Jewish women have to wear a wig and a dress or skirt all the time and stand behind a divider in the synagogue; heaven forbid the men should take responsibility for their behavior around women. Gotta cover them bitches up! I get into this argument with the orthodox people in my family all the time.

      Not all Muslim men make their women dress like that but by and large most of them on this planet do. Don’t call me racist. do some research on the subject. Also in the greater Muslim world they have a custom of the “honor killing” which is when a male family member takes it upon himself to kill a certain female member because she’s acting too liberated and thus would bring shame onto the family. The news does report on this but likes to suppress it. If Muslim culture isn’t sexist, why does the entire muslim world practice gender apartheid? The oldest hatred in the world isnt directed at the Jews. Its directed at women and gays.

      It’s legal for a gay man to live with equal rights to straights in Israel. It isnt in the whole of the Muslim world. Racist my ass.


    38. @American Perv:

      Yeah alright, sorry about the insults but your post was so typical I couldn’t resist. And yea I apologise I was wrong about you.

      As for all this information, yeah that very well may be, and it is indeed impressive.
      And as a Jew I obviously don’t want Jews to die.

      As for Israel, those are your beliefs.

      Personally, I think Israel is a Zionist state. Muslims and Jews used to live in peace in those Arab countries, that was before Israel.
      Israel is the reason for most anti-semitism in this world today.
      Israel obviously has to continue to exist, and that’s fine. But I’m not afraid to criticise Israel’s radical ways, just because everyone else is afraid to do so because they’re afraid to criticise Jews.
      Not so long ago, the same thing the Israelis do to the Palestinians, has been done to another group of people. And I condemn them for it. I feel like I have the right to do so since I’m Jewish as well, and they’re committing crimes in my name also.

      But I’m sure you will never understand what I mean, and you don’t agree with me, so don’t bother to bring whatever facts up about Hamas or whatever. I know enough facts about both sides, I have family and friends in Israel, I get this information first hand.


      I wouldn’t say I’m self-hating. I am a lefty though and that’s alright. As for the pride, thanks, but I prefer to be only proud of things I have control over, things I accomplished, not things I was simply born with.


    39. @American Perv:

      We could discuss those things all day.

      Fact is, women are supposed to cover up because they’re treasured beauties. I don’t agree with that, but it’s something they want out of respect, not to oppress women.
      If you actually go to typical Muslim homes and live with a family there, you will see that the wife is usually the one who is in charge. Like most women in the west who take care of the children and knows what everyone in the family has to do – it’s the same with Muslim women.

      And I have statistics like that also, why is that in those countries where there are mostly deeply religious Muslims, that they have the lowest rape rate? The Muslim countries have also the lowest aids rate.
      Something about what they do must be right, and you can’t deny it.
      As compared to countries in the west, where women can run around half naked if they want, and where they also have some of the highest rape rate.
      Again, I obviously prefer the west still, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t respect Muslims for living such an honourable life.

      As for ‘honor killing’, there are far less reports about those, than there are about any other murders in the west. But you only seem to have a problem with the Muslims.

      On one last note, Muslims aren’t the only ones who have the women cover up.
      Come to any small village in Europe, come to Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia and even Russia and you will find that most women there wear headscarves. Those don’t seem to be bothering you either?
      There are many many many cultures who do similar things. Some do it on a smaller scale. Why is it ok for men in the west to run around topless but for women it is illegal and they are being put in jail?
      Muslims are an easy target and I’m not impressed with anyone who thinks they are significant thinkers for pointing out things like that.


    40. And yet in the muslim world, women have no rights outside of the house.

      You’re right, Muslims aren’t the only people who have their women cover up. The treasured beauties thing is the other side of the coin of which I speak. Either way its limiting the rights of women. Other ethnicities do it too, however in other cultures the consequences for not covering up aren’t as severe.

      Theres a saying about people with Aspergers Syndrome that if you’ve met one person with Aspergers, you’ve met one person with Aspergers. They’re all unique in other words. It is true with people of any given background. However what makes the Muslim treatment of women unique is the extent to which they apply control. If women really had all the power that you say in those cultures, there wouldnt be a need for a women’s liberation movement in Saudi Arabia or Iran, for instance. Women don’t have rights in the Muslim world. India, which also has a restriction of women’s rights, is getting more egalitarian as the years go by. The countries in Eastern Europe and elsewhere that you cited aren’t even the same league as the Muslim world when it comes to this issue. Nowhere is perfect but it is worst in the Muslim world.


    41. Yeah I know that, and it’s true. Like I said, it’s not what I prefer. But there are much worse things that people need to worry about, than whether or not women wear a piece of cloth on their head. It is not just their religion it is part of their culture.

      And now with all those wars there, it’s so tasteless to attack them for how they live their lives.
      Again, before 9/11 most people didn’t even care about any of those things.
      It’s just popular to be against them, and people think that what, it will actually change anything?
      Try to support peace in those areas, make sure those people are going to survive and then you can worry about what they put on their heads or not.


    42. @dieantagonista:

      re: your other response, I would like to point out this one thing first: how often is it you hear of an internet argument cooling down like this? We’ve achieved something here! (I think?)

      Israel isn’t the only reason for antisemitism today. The press’s portrayal of the place, and their collaboration with the Palestinians, and ignoring of good things that come from Israel, are largely to blame. The point I’ve been trying to make in all of these posts is that Israel has been and is being judged unfairly. The root causes of modern antisemitism are largely based in misinformation and biased reporting:

      When the media report on deaths on both sides, they typically follow a pattern. They refer to the Israeli dead as “Israelis,” and will use more words to describe the Palestinian dead, such as “civilians, women, children, doctors, barbers” etc. No descriptors are used if the Palestinian dead are mostly or all militant in nature. When the Palestinian’s say something happened, the media report it as fact. When Israel says something has happened, they say “Israel says ___.” For instance: “today X number of Palestinians were killed in what Israel said was a response to attacks…” The media never report good news from Israel, and as you can see from the Israel21C site, there is loads of it to go around, including stories of Israeli humanitarian and cross-cultural work with Palestinian communities. If any good news is reported, it is from the Palestinian side. The press calls Palestinian terrorists “militants”. The press never questions or challenges anything a Palestinian interviewee says. The press downplays or buries any story of Palestinian terrorism. The press neglects to report on the Palestinian government’s treatment of its own people. Even if a story about Israel isn’t all negative, it usually revolves around some kind of conflict that doesn’t paint Israel in a positive light. What is more, the press in Europe refers to Pro-Israel lobbies as “Jewish Lobbies.” The Economist has on a number of occasions, for instance. The press buries and downplays reports of violence against non-Israeli Jews the world over.

      If Israel is still all Zionist then I am Mickey Mouse. 70% of Israelis are against the settlements in the West Bank from what I’ve heard. Zionists think that Israel’s right to be is based on religious stuff. Most Israelis I suspect don’t think that way anymore. If Israel is so imperial, why haven’t they pushed the Palestinians out already? The occupation by the way is many things but it isn’t actually illegal. I think it should end, which usually suprises a lot of people when i say it at family gatherings, but I also acknowledge that if Israel pulled out of the West Bank and uprooted all of its settlements there, no matter how old, we’d likely see another Gaza crisis.

      If you’re referring to domestic policy re: zionism, I have to say: so? and really? There are a lot of double standards in the domestic laws that make me uncomfortable. However Israel is progressing in spite of its Zionist roots, you have to admit.

      You can be proud or not of whatever you like. Thats cool. We all relate to the legacy of our ethnic background differently. I stand up for my side and go on about the good we’ve done because it offends my sense of justice when my side is judged unfairly, demonized, and threatened with its life. If it weren’t for murderous assholes and ignorant racists, I probably wouldn’t give a damn.

      I’m glad our dialogue has stayed substantive and not degenerated into insults. Thanks for that.


    43. @American Perv:

      Ah see now you made me feel bad. Because I did insult you.
      I feel like I must apologise once more. You said some unexpected things and while I’m used to hearing people say the same thing over and over and then accuse them of doing that, now I am the one who did that.

      The whole thing with the media must be only in your area, I’m afraid.
      From what I’ve seen and heard it’s exactly the other way around.
      Do you know how many videos and interviews on youtube have been pulled for no other reason than being about Israel and in favour of the Palestinians? This is not free speech. And Israel has most definitely abused her powers.

      But again, I’m sure there are enough pseudo Nazi folk who do exactly as you said, only I haven’t heard much of those in the mass media.

      Yes, Israel is obviously not the ‘Zionist’ state it used to be, not when it comes to the majority of the people anyway.
      I agree with what you said about that, it’s the politicians on Israel’s side, and Hamas on the other that keep this war going. The people are fed up. And I am convinced that the people will bring about change in the end, as cheesy as it sounds.

      About your ethnic background, of course in that sense I agree also. I could tell you terrifying stories about things that happened to me just based on me having a Jewish name. (I live in Austria)
      But I’m far to proud of the things I have worked for than to even consider my background, if you know what I mean.

      You see, not that many people think the way you do. They are superstitious and believe irrational things like, there is something evil in Arabs and they can never be good. They’re all monsters and born like that. I’ve heard people say things like that far too often, so I became a little like them, assuming that most people who think like you do are always going to be like that. It’s a shame really. I should know better.


    44. i think we should all keep in notice that no matter the race, Israel or Palestinian both have done good things and both have done bad things, but the problem is that majority of people is always looking at who did worse. And if i were to refer to a minds characteristic as self defense. It’s like everyone knows i am wrong but in self defense i will point fingers at the thing you did bad also. so it’s like everyone is pointing fingers in a immature way.


    45. Note: this is allot of reading ~_^


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