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    dieAntagonista
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    So? Arrogance is sexy. And hatred is underrated anyway.

    Qumefox
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    Not sure what eloquence has to do with arrogance. One has to do with being able to talk (or type) affluently, and the other has to do with being full of yourself. Though I can understand why people who thing u, and thnx, etc, are real words, would dislike people who actually took the effort to spell. These are full size keyboards people, not cellphones. Kthnxbye ๐Ÿ˜›

    nyoki
    Member

    srsly? whateva.

    Ben1605
    Member

    @Qumefox: That may be true, but I will never understand why people think it’s acceptable to use the word ‘thing’ in the place of the word ‘think’

    Qumefox
    Member

    That’s because I fail at being eloquent. Along with many other things ๐Ÿ˜›

    dieAntagonista
    Guest

    I agree. Well I assumed they meant people who use big words for no apparent reason other than to impress. Which is arrogant. In general, if you can avoid words like that, you should do so. Needless to mention that I don’t do that.

    Actual eloquence doesn’t make anyone worth mentioning angry. Maybe they should have used a different word.

    camusapprentice
    Member

    @dieAntagonista: My actual take of it is if you show you have the ability of eloquence, the common rabble that only wants to concern themselves with the new designs of coach bags and the stats of their favorite NFL teams naturally feel inferior, and what do humans do when they feel inferior? They attack blindly. To go to my highschool days, how can it be cooler to have a pair of heelies than to place in a shakespeare acting festival. One took 50 of daddies dollars, the other took months and months of hard work and a demonstration of ability… Read more ยป

    Ben1605
    Member

    @camusapprentice: America, FUCK YEAH!

    Annarchy
    Member

    I spent grades 1-8 in the states, then high school in Europe. The biggest difference I found is that in America being smart is discouraged by both teachers and students while Europeans encourage intelligence. I went from being a straight-A student, never having to study, to 9th grade where I promptly flunked two subjects and barely made it through the rest. The lesson I came away with is that the American education system is broken and that American society prefers it that way. Unfortunately, America is churning out McDonald’s employees while the rest of the world is raising rocket scientists.

    NoOneInParticular
    Member

    @Annarchy: Absolutely true, but remember that any society NEEDS far more burger flippers than rocket scientists. ๐Ÿ™‚

    rattybad
    Member

    Eloquence done right is charming, not annoying; and people who hate eloquence are too ignorant to bother with anyway.

    The Matrix: Rebooted
    Member

    Long speeches and big words does not make you eloquent. Sometimes its entirely the opposite, brevity is the soul of wit and all that. If people are hating you for being eloquent, then you’re doing it wrong.

    TrAyVon'S GhOSt, nuCca
    Member

    I thought it would make you hated because eloquence is seldom projected so much as self acknowledged. Pomposity and eloquence tend to hold hands.

    Also smarty had a party and nobody came.

    Gouki4u
    Member

    I’d say this is true for people who have large vocabularies, but are not eloquent. People like listening to eloquent speakers, but hate pompous twits who use big words to show their superior grasp of language.

    Drunkin
    Member

    @Annarchy: This is true. But when a person has plans for world domination…

    “Power corrupts. Knowledge is power. Study hard. Be Evil. “

    nyoki
    Member

    It’s the condescending and patronizing attitude that people don’t like. Eloquence is, in part, the ability to make one’s point successfully. Perception is important if you want people to understand and go w/ you. Obama is a good example of eloquence w/out too much arrogance or condescension. When you read his word, it can be off-putting to some, but when you hear him speak, it’s not there. A large vocabulary on its own is meaningless. One of the Wayans’ brothers did a funny skit (In Living Color) w/ a character that used “big” words that he clearly didn’t know the… Read more ยป

    doc
    Member

    I don’t know any big words.

    nyoki
    Member

    @doc: Not even one? How about delicatessen? Now you know one.

    WistfulD
    Member

    The way that I perceived the original graphic (is the term, “de-motivational poster,” forum standard here?) was that it was refering to the forum user who mistook well crafted sentence structure for well crafted logic an argument. I guess it depends on which internet personality you find the most annoying: the kaythnxbye! type who type too fast, don’t proofread, use internet specific shorthands, and generally degrade the English language; or the internet pedant who will use overly complex language, assertions of logical fallacies, deliberate attempts to get a ad homonim response so as to make an ad homonim repudiation of… Read more ยป

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @WistfulD: Wait, wat? u meen dat dis r not a 4m of ‘teligint diskushun? Pfft. U r jus a h8r.

    kthnxbai.

    nyoki
    Member

    @Phyreblade: We don’t like your kind on this thread.

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @nyokki: HAH! U jus jelus o mah prfekt lolspk. No moar h8rade 4 u. ๐Ÿ˜›

    nyoki
    Member

    @Phyreblade: lol u got m3

    Phyreblade
    Member

    @nyokki: I noo it!!! ๐Ÿ˜€

    nyoki
    Member

    @Phyreblade: I’m so ashamed ๐Ÿ˜‰

    nyoki
    Member

    @HoChunk: You should have given this advice to John Kerry.

    Annarchy
    Member

    @WistfulD:

    I don’t think internet speak,or LOLspeak, for that matter, degrade the language. It’s a natural evolution and it’s not affecting the spoken language.

    nyoki
    Member

    @Annarchy: Agreed. I’m not sure it’s possible to ruin a language by adding words to it. The enemy of language relevance is stagnation (usually via regulation of use). France is coming close to that kind of stagnation.

    Annarchy
    Member

    @nyokki:
    Hell yes! Orwell said it: limit the language and you limit the people’s thoughts.

    Why is this happening in France?

    nyoki
    Member

    @Annarchy: France has an academy of scholars on language usage. They decide which words/phrases will be accepted into the language and how they are to be used. At this point there are some real differences between the spoken and the written language…or at least there was the last time I lived there (which admittedly has been a decade, well 2…fine 3, sheesh!). It’s all about how the language sounds, so you get some ridiculous ways of saying things and it tends to make the written language rather awkward.

    Annarchy
    Member

    @nyokki:
    Sounds just like English! We should all immediately switch to phonetic spelling.

    nyoki
    Member

    @Annarchy: Ah, but who’s phonetic would we use?

    Annarchy
    Member

    @nyokki:
    Hm…let’s stick with something simple, like Serbian or Croatian. Only because those are the ones I know.



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