I find Nationalism, and Patriotism to distract from Humanism and gives selfish people the excuse they need to look down on others. I guess I’m an idealist with regards to the solution concerning generational violence, it’s almost too simple, one should merely treat others with the deference and respect that they would desire for themselves, whatever their ethnic or national history might be.

It is basic logic that even children can understand. the problem as I see it is when people get greedy and then look for ways to benefit from the denigration of another human being, and they feel justified in their actions because they have convinced themselves that their victim is less than human and they often use (questionable) historical stereotypes as evidence to support their flawed case.

We can all agree that nobody has an answer to the problems of the world, But I don’t believe that punishing or rewarding future generations for what we do now, will help them to forgive our bloody past. And punishing or rewarding certain elements of society NOW for the tragic history of human civilization doesn’t make it any easier for us to all get along with each other.

Sorry yeah it was your comment that made me snap.
I mentioned the holocaust just because others have mentioned it. And I meant that I don’t expect any pity because of it. I don’t want to be treated better just because my mother was Jewish. But I don’t want to be treated worse because of that either.
Did you know that Jews don’t have to pay taxes in Austria? It’s ridiculous.

I haven’t yet commented on this but I totally agree with you. It’s outrageous to me that a German/ Austrian should feel bad because of other German’s/ Austrian’s past. Or you as an American because of what certain Americans did a long time ago.

It’s also silly in that sense that a black person should feel proud because of Martin Luther King. You know what I mean? Same logic.

I know there are a bunch of Jews who abuse the sympathy they get because of the holocaust and whatnot. Or accuse people of being anti-semitic just because someone disagree with them. But I never did any such thing. All the things I have pointed out are cold hard facts that are current issues. I do not hold grudges against anyone because of the past.

Unless any intelligent person brings up any actual argument, I’m done here.

Where did I claim that I’m in favour of burning any books?
Keep your poor assumptions to yourself.

And I don’t care how many years you have lived in Europe, fact is you are not living in Austria right now therefore you can not know what the situation here is.

Do you really still think it’s a good idea to sell Nazi gear to certain Europeans? Just look at this thread! How many obvious Nazis have already gathered here? Wake up you oblivious man.

And guess what, my father is an Arab. And no, Arabs aren’t the only ones who are discriminated against. Do you even know how hard it is here for a black person to get employed? Even if they went to college?

Would you like me to tell you stories about how often I got beat up by Nazis because I caught their attention because of my name? How they spit at me when they realised that my parents were not Austrians?
Or how I didn’t get accepted at a Catholic school because my birth certificate says I have no religion?

I do not think that outlawing things is a solution in the long run. But guess what, non white people live a dangerous life here in this god damn country, and I’m not taking any chances. And no one here is trying to educate anyone on this subject. I’m only 19 years old, give me a break. When I’m older, should I still be in this country, I will try and change things, but until then I’m going to try to stay alive.

And you’re wrong, I can very well see your side. I know you’re not a Nazi, but one of my best friends is a fomer Neo-Nazi. He basically saved my life. I never judged him because of his past or his opinions.
I doubt you have any Jewish friends who hold different beliefs than you on this subject.

And that quote at the end is really bad. Try coming up with actual arguments instead.

When was the last time you have been to Austria?
Do you have any idea what the situation here is?

Did you know that unlike other fine countries like America, Austria doesn’t keep record of racist/ discrimination crimes? There is only one private organisation who tries to do that, but they don’t have enough money to do a proper job.

Did you know that in all of Europe, Austria is the one country with the HIGHEST rate of racist/discrimination crimes? And the numbers aren’t even anywhere near the real number because like I mentioned, only poor volunteers try to do the government’s job.

No, we do not burn books. We keep honest people from trying to live their lives because of their skin colour and religion.

The fact that holocaust denial is illegal here, doesn’t make up for shit.

But hey, you brave white man don’t have to worry about that shit right? You’re as oblivious as 3 year old child.

no-one hangs the halo of shame over the americans for so many years of using black slaves across most of america, or the dutch for their starting the slave trade

most people dont even know about Pol Pot’s planned genocide in cambodia

no-one really cares about Stalin much anymore, in fact last I heard, about a quarter of Russians today would vote for him if they had a chance

So why keep crying about WW2?

simple

its easy when you have jews like Steven Speilberg making blockbuster movies about WW2 and how evil germans apparently were back then

even though it was only the smallest SS division – the Totenkopf, that were the executioners, the propaganda machine tells the world that ALL germans were executioners

1] I just double-checked, and yes, they still have mein kampf on Ebay, so WTF is the deal with a wehrmacht dagger?

2] Luke, about those angry jews, have you ever met one that got pissed off when they saw die-cast 1/35 plastic german soldiers,…I have and i still think its f**ked up

3] Hanz, if you want to kill jews, do you have to obey the rules of Kosher and make sure they die in the proper way?

Though you’re not doing a very good job at making me like you less.

When someone finally kills you, I will laugh, long and hard, my booming chuckles echoing off hills and through valleys, dispersing across the globe, and children will hear the sound and be amazed, and begin to laugh. And, as my laughter courses through the minds of people, who laugh in turn, and spread the joy, my laughter will be felt worldwide, and billions of people will feel overwhelming joy and satisfaction, all because your worthless, pathetic life, dedicated to jerking weakly to kiddie porn and thinking yourself a great man for beating your loving wife, who maintains that sometime soon you’re going to stop drinking, and then everything will be ok, has come to an end.

And that’s honestly how I feel about you.